Leaning

How so?

Spawnism, at first I thought you were saying reincarnation in a funny way,

But Spawnism looks to be a fictional religion in Roblox?

Well, a villain turning good 'can be good.

I was thinking though, of when they make the villain super pathetic at the end.

'Sometimes it's in character or fits the moment,

But often it seems to me contrived, and unfitting of the moment. 'Especially when one hears the creator did the scene that way because they heard about some fans liking the villain.

I dislike it when writers ruin a villain, just because some fans like the villain.

I wonder if/how cold one can make natural refrigerators.

I hear the earth is warm the deeper you dig,

So, how high or type of tower would one need to make to make a fridge or freezer?

One often wonders what the world 'truly looked like in ages past.

Theory and archeology frequently seeming a thin faded ghost, compared to what 'might have been, and been lost beyond observation.

@#1

A pleasant, musing song,

@#2

Though I'm not sure when humans 'were humans,

300,000 years ago, 800,000 years ago, either is an amazing timeframe.

Human structures,

What one has at hand, and are constantly doing, is something they have some skill at, by practice and frequent observation, I suppose.

People get awfully ornery sometimes, about a third person interjecting or attempting to mediate an argument.

Insist that the argument is only between the two people.

(Shrug)

The third person is 'still often going to interject their opinion I think.

But now, behind the gatekeepers back.

The gatekeeper then unable to criticize or appreciate said opinion.

For the individual,

Should personal experiences not rate highly for what 'that person believes?

Sure it's not reasonable to expect 'others to be convinced by your anecdotal evidence,

But personal experiences are something very real/known.

Sources, statistics, data,

Can be mistaken, misleading, gathered so in error or intent.

Not that I think such should be 'discounted,

But personal evidence 'should weighs heavy for what the experiencer believes, I think.

. . .

Well, to an 'extent.

(1) Passivity and Isolationism

I do have a problem sometimes,

Where any way a situation happens,

I just identify what might be a silver lining.

""our enemies." The enemies we have did not provide much support to the Iranian government".  - Vader

https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/research/2024/10/cooperation-between-china-iran-north-korea-and-russia-current-and-potential-future-threats-to-america

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/dispatches/from-drones-to-rocket-fuel-china-and-russia-are-helping-iran-through-supply-chains/

Well, Russia has been a bit busy in Ukraine, so ideal time maybe.

China some say, is arming up, not ready 'yet, so ideal time maybe.

Ideal time for USA to act I mean.

Other than Russia and China, there is the rest of the Middle East to consider,

Iran and proxies have arguably in the past hurt diplomatic agreements between Israel and various Middle East countries.

Iran missiles against nearby Arab countries, may be a boon.

"The threats that Iran has posed have been the same for 30 years, and nothing has happened." - Vader

Just because nothing has happened 'yet, is no reason not to cut down a huge dead tree within crushing distance of a house.

Maybe people have given minor braces to the tree, that it's fall keeps being postponed.

Maybe large limbs have fallen from the tree in the past and broken pieces of the house.

Maybe one fears a storm on the horizon.

Musing

If we of Earth all shared similar goals and values, we could afford to be a lot more peaceful.

And sure we 'do have many shared goals and values,

But we have too many different, and different to such degrees, that I don't see peace as an option.

There 'has to be conflict,

Rest on your laurels, and the enemies get a hand up over you.

Say and work for peace after WW1, that is fine, but one ought be ready for WW2.

I'm always impressed when someone knows a second language.

I sure don't.

German has a lot of compound words I hear.

If anyone's a fan of Warhammer Music, I made a playlist.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtmqA_J56lp9DLIbn_LRrCoMw9wD9cnqo

I don't make criticizing Trump a major part of my personality.

But I've vaguely head that a number of people were pretty upset about,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_of_Donald_Trump_and_Jeffrey_Epstein

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

And more.

Eh, if I choose to walk down the bad part of town, with cash sticking out of my pocket,

Maybe someone 'should blame the victim 'some.

Put the robber in jail yeah, but my actions would have had 'something to do with the outcome.

I can't think of any reason 'I consider a good enough reason to kill Trump,

But I'm not other people,

For some people in the old west, 'spitting was reason enough for 'some people to shoot another.

. . . Or even in some of the worse places in the world today.

Doesn't mean I think it's justified,

But a person 'can still be saying a lot of carp, that get's people wanting to kill them.

Iranians for instance, one would not be surprised by them wanting to assassinate Trump.

Probably 'backfire on them I think.

But we are talking about people's actions 'causing others to want to assassinate them, not whether the might be assassins are justified.

Someone can meet the 'legal requirements, but still be considered subpar or harmful fit for the job.

I think Biden was a bad fit as well, biggest reason for being his age.

Well, people attempting to assassinate Hitler, were justified in my view.

One, The crime of the Holocaust.

Two, His incompetence in war.

I've not said anyone yet has been 'justified in attempting to assassinate Trump.

I just think it's been 'Trumps actions, that have fueled some people's hatred of him, 'more than anyone else's words.

I don't think being criticized by politicians as a person unfit for the office of president, is a violation of a person's freedom of speech.

(Shrug) Trump has been impeached for a 'lot of things he's done.

I think it's 'Trumps actions and words, not words from Democrats that have caused many of the assassination attempts.

Well, no abuse is best.

I can't say I think much of insulting people, as a strategy of seeing people's 'so 'called true character.

Such behavior is the action of one 'unable to hold 'normal human relationships in my view.

Worse, such people who hold to such a standard, have a double standard, and often devolve into bullies themselves.

Periodically insulting overs to 'test whether they are 'good 'friends or not.

Yet if they receive any pushback, they conclude the other was a phony, a false friend.

Human relationships are a mix of give and take.

Not one sided abuse.

People aren't perfect, and many people are fairer weather friends. Such is human.

Though one feels thankful when they find friends that can last storms, or be such themselves in return.

@Vader

Something I do think, now and then. Is how 'does one get people that will 'stay.

In my view, visibility more than invites.

If the Chess Guy invites the Super Bowl Frat Guy to Chess Night, will the Frat Guy stay?

Maybe, but I think another Chess Guy would be more probable to stay.

. . . But I 'think SatanLucy 'has been inviting people of similar Discords or posts.

But even inviting a Chess Guy, not all Chess Guys are looking for a Chess Night Hangout.

They have their own approaches and niches.

Lead a horse to water, will he drink?

Let a horse find itself to water, more likely it came there for a drink.

@Sidewalker

I get your view, if someone hasn't 'actually spent a good amount of time on the site, then they can have a shallow understanding of the site.

Other side of the coin, is how they can inform us on how accessible the website is, or isn't.

Personally I think the biggest flaw of the site currently, is not having momentum.

'Once in motion, I think it'd be a more attractive site, each serious debate getting at least three votes, maybe 10.

More variety of debate topics and opponents.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQ_jKFnFSU&list=PLnvXU5ujK5HuoY7o891QvQDNnQsxoKuCU&index=8

The Quit Moment - Why Games Lose Players - Josh Strife Hayes 15min30sec long video

Course on another hand,

One persons quit moment, is another person's stay moment.

Niches can be small,

But if you widen a niche too much, it can lose the appeal for it's original audience.

And the audience you are 'trying to capture, maybe doesn't care anyway.

I don't know, I saw Savant post the link in a debate, then I saved it to my profile in my Note to self section.

Not 'ideal for easy finding, I must admit.

Fair point, new people's want 'do have a degree of value.

And likely some people have left out of frustration if they disagreed with mods removing their vote.

I don't know if such votes were or were not reported,

. . . But theoretical, let's assume they 'were reported by one of the debaters.

They had an expectation of minimum requirements for votes on their debate, by the rules of the site.

If votes that don't meet standards are allowed a pass,

Then we alienate the debater.

If someone is always going to be alienated,

Then perhaps it is better we alienate a person who does not share our ideals on voting. Rather than the longer standing member of the community.

Voting 'is optional, and one learns to avoid voting or accepting certain debates, due to. . . mismatch of personalities and values.

. . .

I would imagine part of the issue for gaining a community for this site,

Is for it to be something people want to join, there needs to be many people,

But because it is relatively new site, there are not many people.

Catch 22.

. . . . Course, that is why some people want to focus on marketing and ads I suppose, try to get that traction and community, so that new people see there is community and join.

. . .

It might not be 'bad to include debate voting option when creating debate, that voter does not need to meet DebateCraft Vote standards.

But I also think too many options, too much complexity is bad too.

If people 'wanted or didn't care about votes of low quality, they can state such as a rule in their debate description.

I'm not studied in what makes various websites or communities stick.

I don't know why DDO took off,

Maybe it was just lucky, arrived at the right moment of social media,

Maybe it was advertised right or at lucky time,

Maybe it was the Opinions and Polls,

(Shrug) I don't know.

DebateArt, arguably has less restrictions currently than DebateCraft does.

But DebateArt also has population problem.

. . .

Many of the people invited from Discord, already 'have Discord, even 'if we changed, I'm doubtful they'd stick around 'too long.

. . .

Theoretical. . . What does a debate site offer?

A means of settling dispute with randoms or known people,

Disagree with some fellow in the YouTube comments, how do you two decide who was right?

A DUEL I SAY!

Of reason, rhetoric, and source.

I suppose one could also disagree in Discord, and this site again is the option.

Sure you might judge success on YouTube or Discord by thumbs up of other random or known people,

. . But that's not quality, that's not a voter held accountable or giving 'real feedback.

Feedback can be good to have, still. . . I think.

I like the layout and look of the site.

Voting rubric seems clear enough, though could be a bit more visible to people.

https://www.debatecraft.com/debates/vote-rubric

I 'think a person could create a vote free debate if they wanted, they'd just need to specify such in the description rules.

Admittedly the vote option is still there, but they can just set vote time short and ask mods to remove any votes that occur.

People can even have loose votes for a debate, if they put such in the description rules.

I'd say the purpose of voting depends on the people who create the system for voting.

I can't comment on the removed vote, since I don't know which vote it was.

(I'm not asking which vote it was)

I think the site is pretty easy to use,

The Ultrarated Tournaments have a 'bit of a wall, but it's 'really not that high.

I think reading for knowledge and self improvement 'has to be structured, for me at least.

I forget information if I don't review it every so often.

So over life, as one acquires books one finds valuable, for art or function.

There ought be a stack of reread books.

And 'without set time table of study, it's easy to go years not rereading a book.

And difficulty is created in adding new books from To Read list, because one still has to reread old books, which one isn't doing.

. . . Of course I don't 'actually structure my reading, but it seems to me I 'ought.

I also admire how fauxlaw appears to reread books with a focused regularity.

Heh, just passed Ragnar and Fruit Inspector, for number of votes, on rated debates leaderboard.

Honestly, some debates could probably stand to be deleted.

(If the participants agreed to such)

If you 'need another person, then I'm in.