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Believing or Following Policy, either one.


Maybe knowing 'why you believe something, is overrated.

Some forms of knowledge and logic are complicated,

It's easier to forget about 'why you believed in something,

And instead remember that in the past after a bunch of effort, you decided X was worth believing.

Even if you don't remember 'why you believe in X 'currently.


Or does this become more akin to not existing?

I think, therefore I am.

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People being able to use one's image for questionable AI videos and photos is bad.


I find the ability to Google search images, 'worse though.

Makes doxing much more available to the average person.

. . Course a lot of people don't mind having their personal information out there.


. . I suppose AI videos and photos 'could be worse,

But I 'think it's worse 'more for 'big people, celebrities, politicians, business people.

. . Artificial scandals and lies, but. . . People will become calloused and nonbelieving of everything they see maybe.


AI 'could be used for small crimes, frame someone for cheating, but again I think people will be suspicious of veracity of video and photo.

Photoshop has existed for a long time, disguises makeup and masks,

'Lot of the danger not so new I think,

Easier though maybe.

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Generally speaking, people are not confronted with the trolley problem,

It is not set before them, they cannot see it, whether the tracks or the far ends they lead to.


Thinking of Warhammer recently,

And I think of war in reality.

It 'does seem an edge, a fine point, everything cut away.

. . . The trolley situations are forced before a person.

Actions and choices leading to great suffering in either direction.


The horrible nature of choice extreme before a person.

No matter the choice, people will die, will suffer.

Does it matter if said suffering is 'near?


To intentionally kill X civilians,

Or to unintentionally kill XX civilians.

Yet if one 'knows one's actions will kill XX civilians, can it 'be unintentional?


Yet in the specifics, rarely do people accept being the sacrifice as 'right.

Even if it saves more people.


An old tale, those who walk away,

Yet sometimes there 'is no walking away I think.

Inaction 'still seems to me sometimes, a choice, an action, though not all agree.

. . .


A bad and a worse choice, heh, I recall that being a theme in Fable 3, but one could get around that in that game.

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I don't know if AI is particularly bad for the environment, or in what forms it might be bad.


Arguably one 'can run out of water, 'eventually.

Quicker if one is thinking local, maybe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl

Human vs Nature cause can be questionable though, maybe.


Couple videos that come to mind, not that I'm saying the person is right in what they say.

I'm bad at research.


AI Is Rewiring the Power Grid (And No One’s Talking About It)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8XhADqgGDs

3 min 44 sec long


The Global Water Collapse Has Already Started

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWFqSGnmgOY

3 min 4 sec long

Leaning

I rather like small YouTube channels sometimes,

Better opportunity to have one's comments heard and responded to, if there are not some thousand comments already.

Leaning

Just curious

Leaning · 9 months ago

Sometimes I change my tie based on politics, if I'm arguing something that feels a bit more Left or Right.


Sometimes I change to a fancier AI created Avatar, when I'm feeling Existential, Fancy, or more Serious, I think.


Previously I tried out changing to an Avatar with Zs and closed eyes when I was sleeping,

Or an Away Sign when on Vacation or Away.


Day Night cycle could be kind of fun I suppose.

Maybe change it depending on weather, rain, sun, snow.

Could edit my Avatar based on the month or holiday.


It's all still generally based on a Prime Avatar though.

. . .


I have some of my older Avatars on a flash drive somewhere, back when I joined DDO.

I had shorter hair then, and just a mustache for a time, hm, been various changes, still, always a bit same figure throughout I think.

Leaning

If a company gave homeless people free clothing of good quality with their logos on it,

Would that be good advertising?

Leaning

@Shoresy

"Honestly, Trump should just do the Governor Hotwheels plan and just pay for buses to send everyone who wants to go to Minnesota.

That way, everyone is happy."

Shoresy #15


I think a plan like that only works if states create a secondary entry process and enforce borders against other states.


One worry of mass migration is that the people will not adjust their values to the new country, and they 'will have kids eventually.

Then those kids will legally move to the state that bussed out their parents.

Just takes longer.


Heh, funnily borders is one of those issues that only works well if everyone is doing it, maybe.


@fauxlaw

My 'guess is that Trump can deploy ICE to the states he wants, but it's a guess on my part.

The states kind of 'lost the War for States Rights, Civil War,

Then later lost again during Segregation.

I vaguely recall reading of State Troops being sent, that black Americans could attend school.


. . . Course, states 'currently still have a lot of different laws between states.

. . . (Shrug) I'm not well read on the subject.

I imagine people would claim there are differences between Federal and State responsibilities, but that line maybe's a bit blurry.

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I've heard a couple takes,


"prior to Trump, the norm for every other president was to have the DOJ operate as an independent agency. Biden at least never wanted the appearance that the DOJ agenda was being dictated from the White House. The way that Trump is directing the DOJ to pursue blatantly false charges against his political enemies"

-sp0rkah0lic ,

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/1qstrbw/why_werent_the_epstein_files_released_under/


"You're leaving out the most important part, that those files were sealed due to Ghislane Maxwell's trial. Could he have ordered them unsealed anyway? Maybe, but like you said, Biden generally follows the law unlike the current president."

-TheRockingDead

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALiberal/comments/1qstrbw/why_werent_the_epstein_files_released_under/

. . .


But who knows. . . I've not heard of Biden being in the files, though I've not been paying attention.

. . . Presidents are not the 'only people involved in the process though.

(Shrug) maybe involved or uninvolved members of government think that it would be damaging to the USA, USA foreign relations, or USA economics, to release all the documents.

Maybe X many members of smaller time but involved members of government are being paid off, unknown to the presidents.


But that is wild guessing.

. . Sigh, as often is the case, for of war is frustrating.


. . . Maybe much of the documents just 'aren't the smoking gun people were looking for.

The documents are 'damaging yeah, but a lot of that is damaging without being able to 'prove anything in court maybe.

A 'lot of people 'happened to interact with Epstein in X ways, even Stephen Hawking gets mentioned in the files for attending some science meeting that a 'bunch of science people attended,

Because Epstein was a socialite and funder, trying to rub elbows in 'some way, not all perverse, with everyone he could.

. . .


Course lot of the Epstein Files 'haven't been released.

Pity a lot of people don't trust government currently and/or that government currently is often untrustworthy.

Leaning

I'm not sure 'what to think the files are.


Internet talk is the girls were coerced and trafficked, rather than willing. (I've not been following the case closely)

Though there were so many, of different ages and willingness I'd suppose, maybe it becomes murky.


It 'is questionable how knowledgeable X of the clients were of the girls willingness, maybe they did not realize it was so coerced.

Though personally, I still don't like the idea of prostitution, it is more normal/legal in some parts of the world.


Would society become better if the clients were prosecuted?

Maybe.

. . .


Some people in the country, a 'lot of people I 'think, are pretty upset about the whole thing.

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Sometimes I feel a bit doubtful 'anything will come of the Epstein Files,

There seem to be so 'many files,

They do not seem to be some tidy well indexed blackmail list that Epstein owned.

Epstein Files just seems to be 'every single thing law enforcement investigated, heard, confiscated. That is vast, untidy, not verified.

. . . The Law also tries to protect people 'not guilty. The victims, and the people who did 'not do anything illegal when they interacted with Epstein.

It's a bloody twisted mess, well. . . 'Seems to be from what I hear of it.


We live in an age of misinformation,

Has the evidence been tampered, removed, contaminated?

It contains 'all instances of claims I assume, not all claims are true.

Hm, statute of limitations,

Epstein interacted with so many people, him being a funding guy, and a pipeline when others wanted to fund stuff. It wasn't all sex stuff.


"also described several infants being killed and their intestines removed as well as other acts of cannibalism"

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01246048.pdf


I've not really been paying much attention,

While not 'impossible, I find some of the more grotesque claims difficult to believe.

. . . Course humans 'are grotesque at times, torture and eat other humans.

. . . . . . And of course that single claim does not mean other claims are false, but the existence of claims does not make them true.

But that the Holocaust truly existed, does not mean the delusions of the Satanic Panic in the 80s and 90s was not overblown and absurd.

. . .

Course one would think that 'surely there must be 'some verifiable documentation in the Epstein Files.

. . .


I recall a manga I read once, Akumetsu,

Guy in Japan basically goes on a rampage killing a bunch of businessmen and politicians for corruption.

. . What I muse on is the character in that manga had the means of finding 'proof of people's wrongdoings,

'Proof, is something I often muse that people lack,

Something that I muse often makes vigilante justice improbable.


The people most gifted the 'truth, able to act on conscience, are those 'involved.

. . . But of course humans. . . Hm, deja vu.

(Shrug) One cannot expect victims to murder those who took advantage of them, nor can one 'allow such, as one outside often does not 'know what they know.

. . One cannot expect bystanders to act on conscience, humans are much less than we sometimes 'wish we could be.

Leaning

I find rotoscoping pictures of real stuff and people kind of fun,

Though I don't 'generally care for drawing on a computer,

I prefer sketching scribbles in my notebook.


An advantage of computer art though, is how easy it is to store, sort, copy various projects one has.

. . Also lot of electronic stuff, easier to use computer than hand draw and transfer over.

Art for video games or online profiles.


If you're going for a more cute or cartoon look, which isn't bad,

Rotoscoping might not be the way to go though.

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Well, they don't seem to be banned.

Last comment was about a month ago.


https://www.debatecraft.com/users/FLRW


https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/philosophy/posts/l0/are-we-just-slaves-to-material-evolution-and-universal-progress?page=2&comment_number=31

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I don't know if I still have integrity, or how much I ever had.


I think I follow the law and trusts 'primarily out of a value of function.

I like not being in jail or trouble.

It is useful when others trust you.

If one is recognized as a liar, thief, or troublemaker, one often loses a lot of options in life.


But I love my family, and don't expect anything back from them what I give.

I am somewhat fond of friends and do not behave in mercenary fashion with them.


I don't really get 'into situations where I might do something wrong, but this does not mean I would not do something wrong.

Can't say what I've done illegal in life.

. . . But I generally don't get into situations where I might do something wrong, and even in opportunity situations I don't act wrong, because I am not lacking comfort in life. I am not usually greedy that I would like to hurt others to enrich myself some small amount.

But had I the opportunity for great gain, I often fear I would go a fair distance of evil.

Never been an option yet in life though.


My integrity. . . 6/10 maybe?

But surely I do not try to be honest and fair 'just out of selfishness?

Habits habituate value, I tend to be honest and fair because I like those for themselves, as I practice them.

I feel bad should I hurt others, generally speaking.


5/10 would be average integrity,

Hm, but I'm unsure how to gauge it,

It's similar as when one uses faces or examples for a pain scale. .


I 'think I still have a fair bit of integrity. . .

Can one regain integrity?

I think I still have a fair bit of integrity, but it's also a bit of a question mark for me, until one is 'tested, what does one know?


Ah, I can think of a couple incidents in my past, I feel a 4/10 for integrity.

And yet, it is for specifics.

Some aspects I feel a 8/10 on integrity, others, something lower.


. . . Weakness. 'That is one reason for my dislike and 'attempted general avoidance of a lack of integrity.

When I have been a person of less integrity, it has often been out of weakness, childish fear.

At least that is how I 'view lapses of integrity within myself. 'Generally speaking.

I hate to see such weakness in myself.

. . .


To the person below me,

What made you start debating and being a part of a debate community?

Leaning

The difference in views of what ICE is. . . Between the Left and the Right.

If one believes that ICE 'is as bad as the Gestapo, then such resistance one see's in Minneapolis seems more reasonable.


If the government suddenly tried banning guns, I could see many people on the Right organizing against such overreach.


I do not think the Left is 'trying to radicalize individuals for suicidal attacks on ICE.

Generally speaking, I think many on the Left think ICE is 'really bad, and are exaggerating out of passion of how much they dislike ICE and what ICE does.


. . . But propaganda does exist. Both from inside and outside.

But I do not think intent is to create suicidal attacker individual,

It is by USA Left to rally support in what they sees as moral,

And by Outside Countries and Organizations to create dissension in America.

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If people want to convince others that ICE and the current administration's illegal immigration policy are bad,

I am doubtful referring to ICE as the Gestapo will convince a set of the people.


Calling them the Gestapo seems a bit everyone I disagree with is literally Hitler,

X is going to destroy the country,

Boy cried wolf.

It seems exaggeration, not speaking to specifics and truth of what ICE truly is.


It seems caricature, insult used to dehumanize other side,

To 'justify own actions against ICE and ICE policy.

No need for restraint, because they are Gestapo, Nazis.

Which is ironic.

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I wonder a bit,

How various individuals and incidents in history would have changed,

If internet and modern phones had existed for various times.

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While I wouldn't say this villainizes him, I think Alex loses a lot of victim points. Maybe all of them.

Still doesn't make ICE's actions when he got shot, ideal.


Alex Pretti Seen Spitting at and Kicking Out ICE Taillight in Earlier Wild Clash With Federal Agents

2 min 41 sec long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR-oVRTMveo

Leaning

Ryan McBeth

The Documented Strategy Behind Minneapolis Protest Responses

15:48 sec long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLU0y-FA8ZI

Leaning

ICE has also existed under presidents other than Trump. I think.

It is not their 'purpose that people disagree with I think, so much as current methods.


Well, lot of people also just dislike Trump, but that's only partial I think.

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I think Vigilantism can 'at 'times achieve it's aims,

But such depends 'what their aims were.


More often I think it degrades society and cooperation.


I often think vigilantes ought reform themselves, not others.

. . . Course Vigilante is such a broad term. . .


Medicare for example, better off gathering to themselves a likeminded community to enact their ideal society.


Communes exist, Gated Communities, Home Owner Associations.