Lunatic

Originally Posted by wylted on 9/1/2026 at 5:22 PM (post #945)

Lunatic what are your thoughts?

I think magics role is real at the very least, could have been recruited though. I am not sure I am 100% on board with the logic of mikal being confirmed scum based on the words "ml" and a double space, however I do think mikal behaviorally is at least setting off some alarms. The fact that that message in magics pm clearly states that they need two mislynches to win, and mikal seems to have 2 people lined up for a lynch, exactly me and magic, and doesn't seem to consider you or mago options at all seems like TMI. I don't see how he could say that you guys are innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt when literally anyone could have been recruited. The fact that he is hard set on me and magic being scum makes it look like he is setting us up as both lynches. And he's throwing his weight around confidently, expecting you both to wagon him saying things like "I know wylted will vote with me" type shit just seems like is trying to manipulate you.

If I was leaning a direction it would be mikal, but I don't want to dismiss the possibility both him and magic are town here. I am literally considering everyone. I'll have more extensive thoughts when I get to work tonight.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/1/2026 at 4:16 PM (post #917)

Please, do not ignore what I have to say here. Take the time to understand and appreciate it. And Wylted for the love stop letting Mikal snow you so easily.

I won’t ignore anything, just woke up. Let me read everything yall have wrote

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/1/2026 at 10:00 AM (post #881)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/1/2026 at 11:56 AM (post #878)

Magics role is a lot to process, but I’m not as convinced it nails scum in Mikal down. I think all of us have abbreviated mislynch as ml before and the spacing thing is kind of a meh argument. That said I agree that Mikal’s role as scum is horrible for LYLO. I have trouble wrapping my head around why scum would have recruited Casey unless they were asking the mod to replace that slot in advance or something.

Anyways I’m going to bed soon so I will think about this with a fresh mind tonight.

Mikal does those things the most.

also, what about the writer putting himself at the top of the list of living players in the 1v4?

the players were ordered

Mikal

Mag1cman

Lunatic

Wylted

Magoroth

if he said 4v1 it would imply Magoroth since he’s at the bottom of the list, but he said 1v4… which implies Mikal.

I mean maybe. I don’t think that’s an airtight confirmation of him being scum, but I understand the logic.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 9/1/2026 at 9:55 AM (post #877)

I asked Banana if a role like Mikal’s could be used by the person on themself 1) and if it’s still active at MyLo/LyLo.

Speaking of MyLo/LyLo, does Banana usually announce this? I don’t think we have a Tailor considering Lunatic claimed to have been role blocked--

I didn’t claim to be roleblocked I said the only gambit I could hope to play would be to hope to be roleblocked or killed, since it would waste a night action. Neither happened to my knowledge

Magics role is a lot to process, but I’m not as convinced it nails scum in Mikal down. I think all of us have abbreviated mislynch as ml before and the spacing thing is kind of a meh argument. That said I agree that Mikal’s role as scum is horrible for LYLO. I have trouble wrapping my head around why scum would have recruited Casey unless they were asking the mod to replace that slot in advance or something.

Anyways I’m going to bed soon so I will think about this with a fresh mind tonight.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 9:25 AM (post #860)

Asked david if it was 5 or 6 to make sure im not nuts

Yeah this is magic or luna with 5

No world in hell mago gets picked.

Thats the exact WIFOM pie could have been hoping people would buy into. Not saying it’s him but ignoring two players as recruit options is kind of dumb at this stage. Who the hell knows what they did. Should be open minded about all options instead of narrowing down and tunneling two.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 8:51 AM (post #844)

Pie gas literally bitched about how much he doesnt vibe with thoth or mago

Off chance he could have got me but not casey. Casey's not active

Wylted I dont think so cus of the claim

Recruitment doesn't effect someone's original claim my friend.

Pie would have picked who he would have enjoyed playing with and who he considered good. Its you or magic

I am the catalyst for why he was lynched, recruiting me after he thought I was hard tunneling him dp1 is kind of retarded. I also stayed consistent on lynching him all of day phase 2.

Also giving you benefit of the doubt. You are saying you are vanilla. No take backs? Want to confirm you aren't changing this for a gambit.

That's my claim. Only gambit I had up my sleeve was to hope to bait out roleblocks or night kills.

Originally Posted by Mikal on 9/1/2026 at 8:22 AM (post #837)

Pretty sure luna is town but would never put it pass luna to bus.

My role is verified.

Want a claim list. Assumed wykted said Miller becajse someone said he means a cop is in the game

Question is who would pie yazkua.

David did not pick that pie did

Answer is luna or magic.

Magaroth I or wylted would never have been a yakuza target. I was casey and inactive pie would have picked someone to play with

Order should be magic and luna and game is solved

I think you are overlooking mago as a possibility. I am a bit suspicious that yesterday was theatre to distance mago and himself. Pie had to have known he was cooked at that point from his being linked with kohai dp1. I think he would want to put a ton of distance between himself and his recruit.

We should be high skeptical of everyone alive, even wylted. Wylted probably is the miller, but I could see pie advocating to recruit him if he thought he was a dreamer.

So now is the WIFOM phase. Basically have to figure out who was recruited. It's all behavior from here, unless magic has some useful result to go off of.

We need to full claim now. I am Kenny Liu, Vanilla Townie. My description says im friendly with most people and suffer a lot of trajedy after the deaths of both parents. I dont have a specific link for being vanilla or anything, just a brief description about my guy.

Magic needs to full claim as well.

So we nailed Pie. Good. Should have lynched him Day phase one but I digress

Mikal was your role 1x or did you forfeit last night?

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/31/2026 at 10:28 AM (post #776)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/31/2026 at 11:26 AM (post #774)

Gonig to bed. I swear yall better lynch pie by the time I have woken up. If Mago is lynched, this game is hopeless lol.

You haven’t even responded to my arguments. Literally just consider for a moment that I’m Town.

Im pretty sold you are scum man. I can’t even vote today anyway so kind of no point arguing with you. Balls not in my court.

Gonig to bed. I swear yall better lynch pie by the time I have woken up. If Mago is lynched, this game is hopeless lol.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 9:35 PM (post #738)

Along another line of thought, I’m not a huge fan of how Lunatic and Mikal are dick riding each other so hard. Why do they trust each other that much lol

Mikal is the one who said he will sheep me. I only said he can’t be the OG scum. I stand by that. If pie is scum it’s possible he was the recruit. But the recruit hunt is gonna be a wifom fest that I’d rather save for next day phase.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 9:34 PM (post #736)

Note that Mago went from I AM NOT CLAIMING to just claiming out of the blue. Sounds just like someone else we know: Kohai.

There is no universe where I would ever support a mago lynch over lynching you. Lucky for you I can’t vote. But I think town is smarter than this.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 7:21 PM (post #708)

Y'all have posted a lot for me to read in the last hour and a half or so. Gimme like another hour before I can get on and catch up

Blame magic

Pie going after mago seems like it could be last minute distancing lol

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 6:53 PM (post #694)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/30/2026 at 8:50 PM (post #688)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:09 PM (post #635)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:00 PM (post #436)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/28/2026 at 6:53 PM (post #435)

Enough to glance. I think your town this game. Behvaior seems normal compared to last one. Back to being aggressive yada yada. Yakuza is dead so I can confirm myself. I blocked you from voting or being lynched

Any reason you chose me? Your probably town

such a fast clear for no reason

He was town dp1, that I’m pretty sure of. He could have been recruited. His character claim is like the main character, plus his role is OP as fuck for mafia.

i know but the way you wrote this doesn't indicate you were thinking about the possibility of him being recruited

I wasnt when I initially wrote the post. But I don’t think today’s the day to worry about recruitment from yakuza anyway, it’s all going to be mega wifom, I said earlier we should be focusing on the OG scum today, worry about the recruitment later. Recruitment hunting is gonna be a shit show wifom fest.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:09 PM (post #635)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/28/2026 at 9:00 PM (post #436)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/28/2026 at 6:53 PM (post #435)

Enough to glance. I think your town this game. Behvaior seems normal compared to last one. Back to being aggressive yada yada. Yakuza is dead so I can confirm myself. I blocked you from voting or being lynched

Any reason you chose me? Your probably town

such a fast clear for no reason

He was town dp1, that I’m pretty sure of. He could have been recruited. His character claim is like the main character, plus his role is OP as fuck for mafia.

Going to bed, but yeah Pies defense is really shit. Wish you guys saw the writing on the wall last day phase when I tried to point out all the behavioral differences, took a result to get you guys there lol. I wasn’t just tunneling to tunnel. There was valid reason for the pie read. Oh well we got him now.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 12:51 AM (post #593)

I’m a bit scared the Yakuza isn’t one-shot and we can’t actually win this game unless we kill the new Yakuza. Like Yakuza’d person keeps original abilities but what if they gain the Yakuza ability too lmao

That would be insanely OP

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 12:14 AM (post #579)

Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.

I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.

I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.

VTL: ILikePie5

Hell yeah. FOS anyone defending that mf'er!

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 10:04 PM (post #575)

I want to look somewhere other than Pie today, not necessarily to the exclusion of looking at Pie.

The one thing I can agree with pie on is that we should be hunting the OG scum now, and looking into the recruits later. I have theories on the recruit, but not really worth delving into yet.

Wylted, mikal and you are off the table for the OG scum, you could only be recruits. I will reserve outing my reasoning on the wylted/you but you probably know what I am saying with that. And mikal can't be OG scum, because I have a very hard time buying Boyd is not in the game, plus his role kind of fits that character. So from my shoes only conceivable options the OG scum are between pie, mago, and magic. I'd be down to hear claims from mago and magic, and we can work from there. Obviously behaviorally I am still leaning pie here. Not that it makes a difference which way I am leaning since I can't even vote.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:00 PM (post #570)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:52 PM (post #568)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #567)

Okay, that means he was telling the truth about having a confirmable role, which explains the NK.

You're waiting for me to answer your question and then agreeing with me about this very obvious game fact, as though I am the authority on how Mafia works? This is so out-of-character for you that it's painful.

Im indulging you. I’ve already said I think it’s irrelevant whether it was a Tailor or not. My strategy is proven to work with a Yakuza (even thought it was a Tailored Yakuza)

How is a strategy proven when the game in question didn’t have a real yakuza lol

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/29/2026 at 7:18 AM (post #510)

Here’s a possibility:

Kohai + Pie. Kohai yakuzas someone, who is a watcher. That someone is now Pie’s teammate. Pie claims that someone’s role.

Or watcher is a fake claim and pie was always scum. I can’t see past him and kohai seemingly having no interest in each other, especially with knowledge Kohai was not only scum but a Yakuza.

Another thing to consider is we already have an investigative if Wylted is telling the truth than there has to be a cop. One scum was a yakuza, I imagine the other scum would be the counter to the cop. A watcher on top of that seems a bit OP. Keep in mind banana had three vanillas in her last game. We’ve only got me you and mago unaccounted for. I think we all know what Thoth is. Idk thinking about the balance a watcher is harder for me to believe but it’s possible

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/29/2026 at 7:12 AM (post #508)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 6:15 AM (post #499)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 29/08/2026 at 10:15 (post #495)

I think we have been tunneling Pie too much. Deservedly, but I want to look somewhere else for now, i.e., I am going to try to sleep now and I hope that y’all will have done so by the time I wake up.

It’s possible, yesterday I thought Pie’s screaming and yelling was Townish but Pie tends to be able to replicate his Town meta as scum so I’m nt sure how much value to put in this.

Another thing I noticed is that, nowhere in Kohai’s role card does it say his ability precludes the use of a night kill, and yet we had no night kill last night. Thoughts? The Doctor died day 1 and I find very unlikely he was Tailored.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a yakuza that doesn’t require scum to forfeit their night kill upon usage. The tailor Lunatic and I had last game was only usable on our night kills, because it was a *night* action.

^^ This would be my best guess as well

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 2:15 AM (post #495)

I think we have been tunneling Pie too much. Deservedly, but I want to look somewhere else for now, i.e., I am going to try to sleep now and I hope that y’all will have done so by the time I wake up.

I mean if you want to explore elsewhere that's fine, we have plenty of time. But don't dismiss all the behavioral evidence against pie because you are getting weary about the push in that direction; There's well substantiated reasoning for it. It's not like we are just tenneling him for the sake of tunneling.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 2:14 AM (post #494)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:58 AM (post #493)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #492)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)

What do you think of pies claim?

Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.

I think kohais unwillingness to lynch him was pretty evident of their association ngl. Scum kohai kills pie there all day. At the bare minimum if pie was town, then it was kohais plan to recruit him, either way, not a good look for pie.

They knew Kohai was Yakuza and probably that he would use it that night. Why buddy Pie so strongly? However bad Kohai’s decisions are when he makes them, Pie would surely have coached him.

He wasn't buddying him, he was avoiding having to deal with him. Does scum kohai do that? Why? Pie is like kohais biggest threat when he is scum. Not only did he avoid lynching pie when magic said he was willing if we could secure one more vote, but pie was also not using the same logic in lynching you that he has always used to lynch kohai. The pairing isn't just one way is the problem, its both. Scum!pie can't lynch kohai because they need the yakuza to go off, so by proxy he is forced in a situation where he can't risk bussing. And Scum!Kohai has no incentive to lynch pie when there is a mislynch available, and he won't be around to pay for the consequences of his vote the next day. If pie gets lynched now, they can still survive off of whoever they yak'ed. No reason not to take the mislynch there. He had us by the balls because he was online and chose not to vote pie. Why would he care? We almost had a no lynch, and i waited until literally the last minute to hammer. Why would he risk no lynching over lynching pie? He couldn't have accounted for me caving at the end there. Why even risk it?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #492)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/29/2026 at 2:05 AM (post #490)

What do you think of pies claim?

Judging only from the information in the flipped role cards since I am not a From fan, Pie's claimed justification is weaker than Rex's or Kohai's. I also thought the writing style had a tinge of ChatGPT-esque je ne sais quoi, but that might be evidence in Pie's favor since the cards were at least partially AI-generated. It's an average-weak claim, if you ask me. I did not visit Magic, so I can't question that.

I think kohais unwillingness to lynch him was pretty evident of their association ngl. Scum kohai kills pie there all day. At the bare minimum if pie was town, then it was kohais plan to recruit him, either way, not a good look for pie.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 12:45 AM (post #476)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 1:43 AM (post #475)

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Lunatic and I sleep during the day

Gottem!