Lunatic

vtl shining

Mago if your scum, well fuckin played mate.

I mean two vanillas automatically makes this more balanced than what we see in most games.

I’m cool with that. Mago feels town to me. If he was scum this was very well played.

shining hasn’t done much and I’d be very surprised if they didn’t have some counter to tracker. I think he was hoping to coast in lylo off my result knowing I would probably track him. Also he virtually has no interaction with Wylted where Wylted was hunting for Mago since dp1. I think Mago was always intended as a mislynch target

Idk I really want to believe magoroth here lol

I have an idea. Rather than wait for Thoth for another ten million years, why doesnt the guilty one of you two just confess so we can get out of this snooze fest of a game and move on to a more exciting game?

Thoth last said he was going to iso you both, I don't think he's leaning a certain way.

Well, Thoth seems to want to Lynch me. It’s basically just me and you here, Shining and Thoth have posted a grand total of three times. I wish this game would just end lmao.

Its been incredibly inactive. Wish I had more to read into for shining.

Feels like Lunatic wants to hammer me but is letting Thoth decide cause he doesnt want to be the one to do it. I think he really doesn’t want there to be “bad blood” between us or something so hes looking for an out where he gets me voted but doesnt do it himself.

If me and thoth don't agree on who to lynch we literally cant lynch anyone, as we need three votes to get either wagon going. Has nothing to do with bad blood or anything. But I don't see a staggering amount of information coming out, so at this point it really just kind of feels like a 50/50. Again behaviorally you are town. Mechanically shining is town for a lack of visit. I kind of want to outweigh your behavior over the mechanics, because it would be stupid to lose over something like scum having a redirector or something. But I am more kind of just waiting on thoth here, since even if I want to lynch shining over you I can't do it without him, so kind of trying to see which way he's leaning.

Do we really think any of the fake claims would be vanilla? Because he (Mago) was the first to claim im pretty sure and his vanilla claim matches with others. Could have been a lucky guess, but I can't help but town read that.

Man if mago is scum here he played really well. I’m not completely writing him off as scum yet, but he had me fooled for the whole game if so

Man if mago is scum here he played really well. I’m not completely writing him off as scum yet, but he had me fooled for the whole game if so

So yeah behaviorally I have been townreading mago all game. Shining has been kind of null but it does help that he didn’t get tracked moving. So I’m conflicted. I doubt it’s Thoth, so it kind of feels like a coin flip here between mago and shining and I kind of hate that.

morning just waking up

Yeah, but you couldn’t have known going into last night that you wouldn’t get a result.

I know, in hindsight I am saying I made a bad call since I would have rather got a succesful track off to make this easier. Now we basically are at 50% chance of winning based on who we guess is scum out of mago and shining.

Why do you think you probably should have tracked Mago if you thought you would get a result on Shining?

Because I didn't get a result on shining...

I probably should have tracked mago but I really thought I would get a result on shining lol

Literally no reason to bus there. I was widely town read. Also I was pursuing wylted from dp1 so if it was a bus I had to have planned that shit early, and there was no point without knowing the balance and with the strong players town had.

Thoughts?

There need not be a ninja. If you’re worried about Wylted showing up as visiting, there could be a redirector. There’s 0 reason for you to be redirected with a Cop in the game. So my guess is Shining redirected Vader N1 into himself, and theres no Ninja.

I suppose I didn't really consider a redirector here.

Oh nvm you said lowest likelihood. No it’s the highest because they don’t have all the claims out, so they don’t know who to block or counter with their roles or who to night kill.

Wouldn't NP1 have the lowest likelihood of them being tracked since that's the night with the most players alive?

Yep, thats what I said homie

I suppose. I just wonder because the game could end NP1, I still think it Magoroth, but no harm in turning over every rock.

I don't think so. A 1x vig in a 7 v 2 just means we get 2 mislynches, not 3 if the vig hits incorrectly.

Not necessarily, depending on what other abilities they had, but Ninja tends to go with Strongman and I very much doubt they used that on night 1 after a claimed Doctor was lynched.

The thing tripping me up is that the lawyer was every night. The cop was every night. I am an every night tracker. So the possibility of a 1x ninja seems low to me, though still technically possible. If it was every night though wylted wouldn't have carried the night kill. So it is either a 1x they saved for some reason (on np1, which is the highest likelihood of them getting tracked) or the more probably answer which is they just don't have one. Which would heavily indicate that it is mago here. But I am trying to think of all options, because I have been townreading mago all game, and he was early on the wylted lynch both day phase 1 and 2. Plus wylted was trying to lynch mago last day phase, which was the phase they could have just won in.

So I am kind of lost here.

Something we need to note is that a Tracker/Cop/Doc is really OP for town and Mafia could just be fucked if town gets lucky.

We have no clue what the other scum is and and they had an everynight lawyer which imo is very strong. Vader had like a very low chance of ever getting a guilty.

So we have 2 vanilla, a vigilante and a tracker. I think if there is a scum vig this is bastard so thoth is town confirmed to me. This is between magoroth and shining imo.

I tracked shining. No visit. Was pretty sure I would get a result here but he is either not lying or they have some sort of ninja. If there is a ninja it is x shot, otherwise they would have just had the ninja carry the kill and I wouldn't have seen wylted. So this complicates things.

let’s get this moving to the next day phase. Finish him.

I was just about to say that. Not that I think your scum necessarily but if you are that’s a game ending test

I mean Wylted basically admitted to being scum here. He lied about his justification and clearly doesn’t know anything about his own character. Which he wouldn’t need to do if he was reading from a role pm and not conjuring up bullshit. If anyone doesn’t believe look up Dr Langdon and find the part where he has sex with multiple of his co workers. It’s just not there. because it didn’t happen