Given cops and bigs, Alyssa would be the natural bus driver target.
Given cops and bigs, Alyssa would be the natural bus driver target.
Right, bus driver not redirector. I can't imagine what ant would be a lawyer.
I'm interested in Wyrly's NP1 innocent on Alyssa. If she wasn't in the guild yet, why would we think she had been redirected?
There's a chance that Rex is scum, but I quite like a Helz lynch here.
Can you recruit a recruit?
Goodbye, Helz.
I knew this guild wincon would be very unfun to play around. I nearly replaced out when it was announced, if only I didn't want to get back into playing mafia so badly. We're literally stalling the game for sidequests.
That's the issue we have to deal with. Lunatic and Helz agreed to lie about Helz declining the invite to play a numbers game against the other guild and they still have their NP1 recruit. That's why they were fine using roles last night, because even if the Hunter's guild recruits, they are even on numbers because the Hunter's guild tried to recruit Luna NP0.
I'm not lynching Rex. I'll lynch explicitly outside of the hunters guild for now, but I am not lynching Rex. Honestly, we're probably lynching Helz today. He's in the guild, and I imagine 1 more player.
If Rex didn't out to his guild mate that he was at least copping someone then he wouldn't be willing to out them after Pie confirms himself. This also makes me realize, it makes a difference if he told his guild mate he was in copping, or if he said who he was copping. The NP1 recruit in Pie's guild only gets town cred if mafia knew a confirmable townie was being targeted, because they wouldn't try to mislynch someone who can confirm themselves, they would just kill Pie or Rex instead.
My vote is we out both of Pie's guildmates now, including the order they were recruited. This confirms both Pie and the NP1 recruit.
Then Rex outs his guild mate. From there we can essentially solve the PoE today.
Has Casey posted today?
How do you reckon the guilty came about?
If Rex's guild mate is mafia, then the original of Pie's guild mates is town for not informing mafia they were making a play on confirmable town. I reckon the second is probably town too, but I don't know at what point of the night you join the chat. Knowing who was recruited, and in what order they were recruited, is critical to the solve.
Helz asked all of those questions to Pie trying to lock down an out for himself once Pie confirmed himself. Interesting turn of events.
The only way to disprove Pie in this situation is for TWO guild members to come forward, as we know there are only two scum left so it couldn't possibly be a gambit to save Pie's ass.
Once he takes this final step and actually confirms myself, I'm willing to work with him, up to the point of dissolving my guild entirely. Waiting for some answers from Mikal while I investigate things internally, but I do want to say one thing because it seems to be the working assumption among some people: Shining is NOT in my guild.
I'm okay with the two peeps verifying Pie coming forward today so that we can get closer to a solve.
As for Shining not being in your guild, it doesn't mean they aren't a redirector who was informed by your other guild mate.
VTL Helz
Helz, you didn't decline the guild invite NP0, did you? You're the mole?
I don't necessarily agree. We know Mafia got fake claims. We don't know if it was just characters or also roles. We can be confident that if it was roles, the recruit redirection bit from Thoth and the action doubling from Alyssa were not included.
And this assumes that mafia knew beforehand doctor and poison healer were on the same slot
Kohai said this after Vader outed it was the same slot. They implication is that Mafia may have known before you claimed poisoned, but there's no reason at that time to believe in Kohai knew.
I do agree that you aren't confirmed town though.
On that note, I'm taking my drunk ass off this fuck ass site. Gn
We're not lynching Rex. But if he doesn't out his partner I reckon we lynch outside of the other guild until we find him.
I'm not Jewish, just an alcoholic.
So you think w!me just claimed my own role??
That has nothing to do with what I said.
But again, I mentioned that Mikal did not seem to consider how ascetic interacted with my role, implying it wasn't in the game design.
If you link them I'll look
I did, but I was drunk. I should look back over them, but I'm yet again drunk.
It's my theory, that Kohai yet again claims as his own. That's neither here nor there though.
This is the part of the game where it's obvious Rex's guild mate is mafia but he protects him for the guild wincon
Holy shit the death tailor paranoia. If there was a death tailor it would have been used on Thoth to save Alyssa
REF needs to reveal who’s in his guild. Cause the strategy was to frame me and get me lynched, then NK REF and take over the guild. No one would ever know who’s in the guild
That part.
So what was ur theory
In terms of how you would confirm yourself, no clue. But I will drop this. Thoth already gave away that we are both town.
In terms of the guilty, I know Rex immediately claimed cop to Lunatic and that's why he trusted him. The mafia clearly have a redirector. Alyssa implied that much already with 'holding' her action NP1. An eventual redirector flip would validate her. The redirector is Rex's guild mate. I imagine that's Shining, with his Lightning Rod claim, hence the "Lightning Storm" hint. I totally buy a roleblocker, a redirector, and Alyssa's power to remove protection with Awesome's ability to guarantee an action's success.