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Even if Mikal came out and said he mod confirmed Helz on accident, the right play for the integrity of the game would still be to lynch Helz.

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I don't care to get into whether Mikal mod confirmed Helz or if he was making a blanket statement about the way the guild system works. I'm not reading into that at all.

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I'm just going to casually remind people that I said long ago that if there's a 3P, it's the snake boss and they would be bulletproof.

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They stepped outside of the plan to push Pie where I was building a case to push with analysis instead of someone claiming an action and they went Leeroy Jinkins out of left field with no warning making the claim. Then they turned on me right after I was generating as much pressure as I could on Pie to help insulate or alignment cop from getting too involved and having to reveal. Then they screwed the pooch and revealed the whole team.


This is so ass backwards. You keep saying behavioral analysis over all, and keep saying that you doubt the validity of Wyrly's results, but you also say that you deliberately built a behavioral analysis case to push the results that you already had reason to doubt and to protect the person giving you results you believed to be faulty in the process.


You have every reason to believe that you were building a case to push a mislynch and you were doing it anyway.

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Yoo Jinho make sense as a Modified Tracker to yall?


Not explicitly, but he is given expensive weapons and armor from his rich dad so I can see Mikal stretching it to make him a tracker.. The thing is, there's a character in the show that actually tracks down and discovers how powerful SJW is. I don't see why that character wouldn't be the tracker. And he's more obscure, so it would make for a more interesting setup.

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He said "odd day" but yeah.


Yet in day chat he claimed that he had to use a night action to acquire the goggles and then could track in following nights. At this point he's explicitly lying about how his role works.

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For the record, I don't buy "I told the guild I'm going to pretend to be 3P" as a reason why you can't be 3P. Saying pregame that you are going to open wolf also has nothing to do with what alignment you would eventually be assigned.


Thousands of posts in guild chat also doesn't align with claims in day chat that you are being low effort this game. It sounds like you are setting yourself up to say after the game, "Well I'm actually better than all of you but I didn't try and you didn't actually catch me so fuck off with your inferior site meta that's below me."

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For what it's worth, Helz, I still see a world where you are 3P and Rex is mafia as possible. Shining's claim hasn't gotten past me and I'm sure he's mafia as well. I'm actually more sure he's mafia than I am of you, but I'm sure you are not town and if I'm wrong, resolving your slot now helps resolve Rex in the future.


I don't think Wyrly is an insane cop. It doesn't make sense for the character to be insane. What would make sense is if she was paranoid. She actually thinks both hunters and monsters smell bad. All beings with magical power smell bad to her. The sole exception is Sung Jinwoo. If we are to assume she's paranoid to everyone but SJW, that would mean mafia bus drove Alyssa and SJW NP1. Given who I think SJW is, I could buy this. If we take this approach to Wyrly's power, then there doesn't have to be a mole in the guild. But this also requires us to continue down the path of mass claiming to decide if a paranoid cop is likely.

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Staring at a 100% success rate in lynches and saying that the methodology leading to those lynches is horrible and comparing the players to monkeys is definitely a take.

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There are no pertinent questions other than the other half of your role and what night action you took. You claimed Yoo Jinho but that's inconclusive; scum were given fake claims. You claimed Odd Night Tracker but tracked no one. You claimed you used one other action which you will not disclose. None of this is enough to overturn our suspicion and behaviorally you're scummy as hell right now. What other relevant questions did you expect us to ask you?


In guild chat he explicitly said odd night tracker? That doesn't match what he said in day chat.

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Given that Lunatic was a tracker (maybe of sorts, it doesn't say he knows who they visited), and other related reasons, I'm going to accept that Helz is scum and enjoy my alcohol. I'll read the rest some other day.

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There's a non zero chance if Helz is 3P that Mafia is Rex + Wyrly. I doubt that highly, and have been town reading Wyrly all game. I just want this written in my ISO if I were to die and it turned out we need a change of detection in a few days.

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I know Helz isn't town. I just reckon they may also not be mafia, unless maybe they are lost wolf and had no knowledge of who they partners were.