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Sometimes it's better to watch than direct. If you dictate every action and the order in which the actions are taken, you put a stranglehold on the space in which mafia can make an error.

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Pie is claiming that someone in Rex's guild interfered with the results. If he claims Miller after asking if anyone in the guild knew about the investigation, we lynch him. We are trying too hard to be fancy here.

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I'm interested in Pie claiming before Rex. Most notably because it seems clear to me that Pie knew Rex visited him prior to Rex outing.


I'm not a fan of Shining's claim either. Is there a reason for Shining to be a lightning rod?


At this point my POE is Pie, Shining, Kohai, Awesome, Helz. I actually like Awesome's claim. Helz is more likely 3P than mafia.

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Mafia has flipped both an RB and the ability to prevent a player from being protected. Ngl, a town role that guarantees a successful night action sounds like designed counterplay.

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Whoever issued the challenge knew wylted would accept even if it meant jumping off a cliff, so that narrows it down to all of us.

I think the challenge was automatic once the Queen died.

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Truly. To those that say D1 scum hunting is useless it basically got us 2 wolves.

D1 scum hunting didn't get us 2 wolves. An unforced noob error did. That was precisely my point. There's only value in pushing noobs DP1 because all DP1 errors are either unforced or result of a lucky rng lynch target.

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Catching up now. I'm also working the next 5 days, including 4 14 hour shifts, so I'm going to be minimally active this DP. Apologies.

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I still think awesome is mafia. I still think Helz is most likely 3P, but I can buy lost wolf. I think if there's another mafia beyond that it's between Pie and Kohai.

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This happened in the show. The person thought to be the human "King" or most powerful was killed by the ant king. So the Mafia get a free day kill to make up for no NK NP1.

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Kohai
POE

Banana
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Awesome5000
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Shining


Having anybody other than Wylted as more town than me is somewhere between bad and opportunistic.

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For what it's worth, Alyssa did not butcher her claim. Everything about the fake claim was good except for the supposed waiving of her night action.

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Kohai
If anyone is quesitoning my alignment take a look at my claim vs the other two fake claims and ask if ascetic is really a fake claim mikal would give

I'm convinced he only gave character claims. Also a reminder that based on my questions to Mikal, it sounded like he didn't think about how ascetic would interact with my role.

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VTL Alyssa, just in case.


I'm still not interested in playing around a death tailor DP2. I agree that the new elements of the case against Alyssa we're not good. Most of it wasn't even correct representationsv of events. But those elements came from confirmed town and absent all of them, Alyssa is still most likely mafia. This wagon truly started yesterday, there's plenty to analyze post flip. Trying to push elsewhere today was pointless because we all know Alyssa is always going to be the lynch so there's no threat elsewhere.

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Wryly
I'm a little surprised there's been no investigative push on post #2, but maybe more experienced players have deemed it best left alone.


I've definitely made a note of this, and commented on it in my catch-up. While being worth noting, I don't particularly find it worthwhile to push because I cannot imagine a productive outcome. There is no way to evaluate whether or not Vader was being genuine there, and trying to do so would just fill the DP with empty content.


That being said, if you find something worth investigating, don't bother giving a fuck about whether or not more experienced players agree with you.


WRT the rest of #538, you are absolutely right, but some things can be better left unsaid. Alyssa is already going to be lynched whether we add more reasons to the list or not. I declined to comment on that post because I was hoping inattentive mafia missed it.

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Thanks mate. I intend to vote Alyssa (obviously). I'm just going to let things sit for the evening in case anyone wants to add anything important. I know magic wanted to catch up before dying.