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I was meaning to vote on this, but I guess it ended already. But a few comments...

In hindsight, I question if this is an ideal candidate for the ultrarated debates. A case can be made for either side, but the audience here is going to skew away from traditions.

Formatting hurts cases. There was a lot of weird line breaks in con's case. I would also suggest the counters section borrow the section headings directly from pro's case.
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Interesting choices. Butters is whole not part of the original core cast, is very much a key cast member. Jesus on the other hand, rarely shows up, but is memorable when he does (I'll never forget when he died to save Christmas) and is a key character throughout the current season.

Regarding Wok is Dead, I found Jesus to be funny in the episode; but I consider the episode pretty mediocre.

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As a voter, I have a very low opinion of such blatantly plagiarized AI.

I say this as someone who actively writes with AI assistance. There’s a time and a place, but show up in a live debate and hold the phone up telling Chat GPT to refute them for you, you’ll win no points.
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That seems to be confusing monotheism with belief in the universe being created.

Most religions have a creation myth. The Vikings for example believe everything came from the giant Ymir, who birthed the gods, and then got murdered by the gods and his corpse used to make the earth...

Monotheism literally just means one god, not merely that the world was created. To change the definition of monotheism, is to move the goalposts.
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This debate topic reminds me of an argument I've made which really frustrates uptight religious people...

Take Greek mythology for example. Zeus is the head god but there's countless supernatural beings, so so does that make them monotheistic? No...

Abrahamic faiths believe in countless supernatural beings, some even powerful enough to attempt a coup against their main god. By what possible standard other than throwing out most of the bible, are the Abrahamic faiths not polytheistic which would leave polytheistic ones not monotheistic?

And queue repeated moving of the goalposts...
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Thank you for catching that error... I can't seem to correct it right now, but for when I revote I'm plugging it in here.

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I'll admit I had trouble trying to understand where pro was going with his case. The end result is that the bible made all the creatures on the planet all at once, and humans and cavemen live side by side (an actual point he made), change is completely impossible... He had such supporting evidence as repeatedly telling us what AI told him, which includes that if you suppose evolution happened over only 6000 years instead of tens of millions, then it's no better an answer than creation, which he mistakes for it saying checkmate atheists!

Con on the other hand builds a case showing that the available data fits with the theory (hence it being a theory instead of a hypothesis; such as the FSM monster of whatever came from the sky and did it). He supports his case with numerous sources which can be easily viewed, and maintains such a clear trajectory that he simply extends one of his rounds instead of filling in anything when nothing was needed. He answered questions, such as explaining that not all organisms change at exactly the same pace as pro baselessly claims evolution requires. A good amount of his case rests on DNA similarity being data which supports the theory.
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