RemyBrown

->The people who think they are perfectly rational are usually the most delusional of all. 


Nobody believes they are perfectly rational, but people should attempt to become purely (rational, moral, and physical sensation driven). Morality and physical sensations are different from emotions.


->So for a woman, the scariest thing is something that can follow her into the social context in which she seeks protection and still harm her.


That can be a bear just as a man. If a woman sees a strange man in the woods, then why is that man in the woods to begin with? Easy: He likes to hike (or fish, or be in the outdoors). Rape almost never occurs in the woods; it occurs in bedrooms and club parties.


I've endured more burns from stoves than lava; but I'd rather get burned from a stove than a volcano because I'm not emotional/stupid (which are synonymous terms).


->A man is driven to assess outside threats and respond to them based on the likelihood of him being able to survive that conflict. A woman is driven to avoid the conflict in the first place and seek safety in a social setting.


Everybody avoids conflicts/challenges under various conditions. You think men look at a hurricane and think, "I can survive this thing"? Women endure various challenges as well (example: exams in school). Nobody is a fight absolutist or a flight absolutist.


->Now, is the risk very small? Yeah. But the risk of the suspicious character coming towards you at dusk is also small, but you still cross the street. You will take a thousand little steps throughout life to avoid those very small risks, especially if you are a woman. 


If a suspicious man comes towards a woman, then she crosses the street. If a bear comes towards a woman, then she's petrified. Also, you are defending sundown laws with this statement, you realize that, correct?


->Similarly, if I designed some kind of retarded revolver with 100 chambers and put a bullet into one of them, held it to your head, and started pulling the trigger you would rightly get angry. The risk is small, 1% to be precisely, but what's at stake is everything. Now imagine that I have some sort of crazy M. C. Escher gun with an unknown number of chambers. It could be ten, it could be ten thousand. You'd be even more pissed off because of the uncertainty, because of the possibility that that is a very risky gun.


The average woman sees 400 strange men daily. For 50 years (assuming 2% chance of rape) this is 1/438000000 odds of a strange man she sees raping her (less likely than winning a Powerball lottery with one ticket). These are the odds that women are dealing with with strange dudes.


If a woman sees a bear in the woods, then maybe 5% chance (1/20 chance) she's dead from the bear.


For this claim to be acceptable, a woman would have to believe 21,900,000 murders (basically several Holocausts) are worse than 1 rape.


And if proportions don't matter (but only fear does), then Trump can say any xenophobic thing about immigrants that he wants based on one immigrant doing something like murder and use it to dehumanize all immigrants (which given that you are a strong Christian theocrat, you would be against that). You can also say that you prefer the bear to the strange woman because the bear never falsely accused anyone of rape (a woman getting raped is equally as bad as a man being falsely accused of rape).


Your solider analogy doesn't apply here because women aren't in war. If a woman is in the woods, then she's hiking, enjoying nature. If she's being S.A'ed by a guy, then she will mace him if required (which is good) and she is prone to acting on emotion in the heat of the moment (which is fine). But all of her negative emotions should be used solely on the man that S.A.'ed her and nobody else.


Same thing if she got raped by a black guy from Brooklyn.

RemyBrown

Making threads about politics is pointless. Nobody here is going to change their mind on any political issue (if we were all newbies to politics and there weren't massive political tensions in the country right now, then we might be able to change each other's minds). But right now, neither are true and it's impossible to change people's minds on political issues.


The left will claim it's wrong to call people, "retarted" and we need more electric cars (unless you're talking about Trump or especially Musk, then they claim Tesla Electric vehicles are very bad vehicles). The right will claim it's wrong to be obese (unless you are talking about Trump, then they go full body positivity).


Any generic new thing Trump does the left will hate and the right will love.


Making political threads are pointless.

RemyBrown

I don't care who signed it.


When I market an idea; I need to know my audience.


I know the people that prefer bears to the strange man are overwhelmingly leftist, so I market my idea using very left wing terms (like human rights).


If I was talking to conservatives about abortion (I'm pro choice), then I use more conservative coded language; if they reference a scientific study that says zygotes are humans, then I say, "100% of experts agree with whoever is funding them." because I know they say this with the COVID vaccines.


I know my audience.

RemyBrown

Funny, except:


You think I'm this:



I'm really this:



And if we are going to be writing off what women say here as a joke, then here's an equivalent joke:


"I'd rather be with a bear than a strange black Haitian immigrant; the bear doesn't eat pets much; only when they're hungry."


But women get a pass because they look hot and men let them get away with things because men's visual power is too tempting on them.


A joke has to be largely accurate to be funny. Otherwise, you can use any insult with anybody and it gets stale.

RemyBrown

-> Taking efforts to avoid risks, even very small risks, pays off if the cost of not avoiding it is even a small chance of you or your children being harmed or killed.


Life has risk; nobody avoids all risk at all costs, and bears are riskier than men to a woman's life by a long shot. A woman sees a man walk by her on the sidewalk; she acts like it's nothing. If she sees a bear, then she's running away as fast as she can (and will get herself killed).


The man is more risky in the sense of he plausibly could glance at you or not glance at you. The bear has the risk free relative certainty of killing you if you run away.


It's like saying you'd rather have a 100% chance of being broke (dead) than a 50% chance of $999k (man glances at you) and 50% chance of $1 million (man ignores you).


Focus on the average; not the worst (or best) case scenario. And you wonder why a majority of Latino and Asian men voted for Trump this time (but I didn't). If Kamala called out this crazy bullshit, then Trump plausibly wouldn't be POTUS right now.

RemyBrown

-> It's that women are by nature hysterical because it has survival utility. 


Basically, you are justifying a dichotomy; men are logical; women are hysterical/emotional. This is a very Andrew Tate style argument (which feminists hate Andrew Tate). He uses this to justify actual horrible forms of misogyny (like saying women are men's property because they are too emotional to think for themselves).


Thinking emotionally is a euphemism for thinking stupidly; that's how people do premarital sex (which since you plausibly are a theocrat, you think premarital sex is bad, but it's what happens when feelings matter and logic doesn't).


->the overactive female imagination is typically not preoccupied with bears, but it is preoccupied with strange men


When I worked at Chipotle, I had to deal with a possible hot stove that I had to put my bear hands on (with gloves). I had to make sure that I didn't burn myself (and it was very hard). It was annoying; it was stressful work. I hated it. I was used to it.


You know what I was not used too? Getting my arm chopped off.


Everyone is more used to touching hot things than getting their arm chopped off; just like every woman is more used to strange men than bears. But you know what? EVERYONE would rather touch a very hot piece of bread (even if they have to carry it for 60 seconds) then lose their arm.


And often being more familiar with something makes the situation less scary; not more. We dealt with COVID; in 2020; very few cases, it as scary. 2021; a lot of cases; we're used to it.


Women are more used to strange men than bears and the left literally has said, "Diversity is a strength" because they believe it helps reduce racism by getting people to have minorities on their mind more often because the whites would see minorities more.

RemyBrown

I also don't believe Rex is conservative if they hate strange men this much. I'm not saying they are left wing; I skimmed their profile; maybe they're a Christian theocrat; I don't know. Christain theocrats believe in submission; so I could see them doing that; they say stuff like they deserve an eternity in hell (which is just loony). They are self hating people.

RemyBrown

->some right-leaning folks have responded pretty calmly


Who?


->Your strong emotional reaction to the man vs bear thing points to a high-anger personality type to me, not someone who was driven to misogyny by a random meme.


It's more like I notice patterns (that's the consistent part about me); I notice women saying they want a traditional man but they aren't a traditional woman and I've noticed men saying they want a traditional woman but aren't a traditional man. It's hypocrisy that bugged me.


Then I notice the "facts don't care about your feelings crowd" get all in their feelings when Trump said Haitians were eating pets and the facts were against it. But MAGA didn't care. I was telling all sorts of people how crazy MAGA is.


Then, the feminists, who preach about human rights and who say women are equal to men, decide to label women as goddesses and men as worse than wild animals (all while they shit on Trump for doing that to blacks). I got angry at that too. You call a transman a woman, people claim it's a violation of human rights. You call them a beast that belongs in the woods with bears because women are that scared of them, no woman bats an eye.


I also notice how men let women get away with saying stupid things because of their good looks. I don't want to come off as someone that talks to women differently because of their good looks and gender identity, so I have to over compensate (kindof like a father with a son employee has to try really hard to avoid accusations of nepotism). If a man says something stupid, I call him out. Same with a woman. I don't consider good looks.


->Personally I prefer the potential of an animal that may be feral over the potential of a human who may be evil; evil humans are capable of a lot more horrors.


Then never leave your house. It's the only safe way to avoid all the potential of evil humans. But that's loony. People scared of the woods don't hike. If someone is that scared of other people, then they got to live in a wood cabin somewhere far away from civilization (but no roads allowed; those were built by strange men you don't know).


I get angry at large amounts of ideologically hypocritical and impulsive people that have voting power.

RemyBrown

->Considering the longterm investment the Dow is supposed to be observed, and not merely in days, I felt the effect was negligible, if measurable at all, since in days, the Dow had recovered, and still is.


If the stock market tanked, then you would say the tarriffs are good because even though rich NYC goons lost profit, the American worker benefitted.


You're not worth arguing with; you're too predictable.

RemyBrown

You will hate the DEM nominee regardless, so changing your mind here is impossible.


->Should you read it sometime, you'll find the E.C. is not contrived, but actually more fairly and accurately reflects the will of the people in every State by taking state population variance out of the equation so that WY [the least pop'd state] weighs as much as CA [the most pop'd state.


If Wyoming wants more representatives, then it should just get more people; if they can't, then that's THEIR problem.


The electoral college is Affirmative Action for states that couldn't attract many people to live there for whatever reason. But you won't change your mind because you have a party to stick too (whether you have the guts to admit it or not).

RemyBrown

Nobody is changing their minds here on Trump and Epstein. Debating about policy is for when there is less political tension; not more. Try getting a hardcore Zionist living in Israel to change their mind on Israel or vice versa for a Gazan kid in Gaza. It's impossible.


This thread accomplishes nothing. It might if everyone here was a newbie to politics; but nobody is.

RemyBrown

There was even someone that said, "Oh; it's RemyBrown" as an insult because it didn't matter what I say in the future, that person will never vocally agree with me.


There was this left wing person that wanted to beat the crap out of me for defending desalination plants; I vented that there was this triggered black woman that blocked me because I said something offensive (and I saw 2 lesbians just ready to call whatever I was going to say xenophobic, and when they found out that being pro-desalination plant was not xenophobic, they didn't agree with me, but they didn't want to call out a member of their own party; but I saw the look on their face; they were just ready to call any statement xenophobic). A right winger I meet at the restaurant claims, "Yeah; that liberal was crazy!". I then tell him that the, "Haitians are eating pets" story is lunacy too. He walks out of the restaurant.


Lets face it; the democrips and the rebloodicans are cults; they're gangs. They act as religions without a god. Ideally, they should segregate into their own areas.


We need a list of left wing and right wing businesses that becomes official data so the people from the democrat religion don't have to deal with the republican religion and vice versa. People in the middle like me can vent to either group knowing the environment we are in and the people who are in the tribes don't have to deal with the opposite tribe.


If you are on the left, then do you really want to deal with someone who wants to take away what you call, "fundamental human rights"? If you are on the right, then do you really want to deal with someone who can't define what a woman is?


The parties can't stand the thought of agreeing with someone from the opposite party. And both sides dish this out to me because I call them both out.


Nobody wants to come off as agreeing with me because I go after both parties pretty aggressively, regardless of your political stripes. So I will abstain from future debates. The system is rigged!

RemyBrown

Non-forfeit debates are essentially a popularity contest.


I know I'm not popular on here because everyone from both parties pretty much requires 100% agreement with your politics in order to like you.


If you tell a democrat, "We should cut the military budget, and BECAUSE OF THAT, we should stop funding Ukraine.", then the democrat thinks you're a fascist enabler (which I'm fine with that title because ad hominins don't work on me).


If you tell a republican, "Picking strange men over bears dehumanizes men but it ALSO dehumanizes people to view Haitians as eating pets in Springfield.", then the republican thinks you're a socialist enabler (which I'm fine with that title because ad hominins don't work on me).


I know I'm highly unpopular here.


Therefore, if I debate with a left winger, then the right wingers won't turn out to vote for me in a non-FF debate because they hate my guts (vice versa applies for if I debate a right winger). But the opponent's respective party will turn out for them. It pays to be a partisan hack. It's in one's personal interests to be a partisan hack. You get more votes; more of a social group; people care about being socially accepted more than being correct.


It's just immoral for me to do this, but I also don't want to lose debates when I clearly made the better argument, but everyone that agrees with me doesn't turn out to vote for me because I pissed them off on some other issue.

RemyBrown

-> I suggest you find another topic of discussion.


What's wrong with being anti hypocrisy? 2 people liked my comment and 0 people liked yours.

RemyBrown

A lot (not all, but a lot) of MAGA people I met will get really offended if I refer to certain people as, "Anchor babies", "Me no speakies", "Fresh off the boat", "Nacho taco chimmy changas", "Wetbacks", etc because they think it's offensive to them.


These same people then will call for separating these wetbacks from their anchor baby kids.


I'm pretty sure separating kids from harmless parents is a whole hell of a lot more offensive to them than calling the kids, "anchor babies" and the parents, "Fresh off the boat".