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None of this makes any sense to me, almost all mathematics in nonlinear

Non-linear in AI means being able to have more than 1 effective weight.

It just means avoiding effective collapse of a model.

At least that's how AI explained it to me.

Simply put, without non-linear functions, an AI model of billions of parameters would be same as AI model of just 1 parameter.

And non-linearity in AI cannot be achieved by any simple mathematical operation. Multiplication, addition, square.... all these fail. Square is non-linear, but faces many problems.

Functions like Gelu and Relu are usually used in AI models, and these functions make AI possible.

Most mathematics is nonlinear, almost all natural processes that science represents with mathematics are nonlinear, linear systems are the rare exception rather than the rule

For AI, to make use of multiple weights, you need a non linear activation function which works in AI system.

Let's say you have two weights. One weight is 2. The other is 3.

If you merely multiplied them, it would be linear because result would be same as having just one weight of 6.

Non-linearity is the only way to make AI which has effectively more than one weight.

Non-linearity can be square, but square introduces a problem where -2 and 2 become same.

For this reason, AI functions like Gelu and Relu exist.

Relu basically turns all negative numbers into 0 while keeping positive ones same.

This is non-linearity.

Achieving non-linearity by multiplication, division, addition... is just impossible.

AI works in a way that it turns input into number, multiples that number with all it's weights, and then generates output.

However, without non-linear function, all weights collapse into one effective weight.

For example:

2x3 plus 2x5 plus 2x2 is effectively same as 2x10.

It is only when you add non-linear function that having more than one effective weight in AI model becomes possible.

AI weights are basically just numbers which are multiplied by input. However, to have more than 1 effective weight requires that the math doesn't collapse into linearity.

Functions like Relu are not math functions. They are actually conditional functions.

Relu turns all negative number outputs to 0. It's a very simple function which creates non-linearity. Gelu is more complex.

Non-linear function is mandatory for AI system, and none of the standard math functions could work for AI. Not multiplication, not square, not addition, nothing in math worked to make AI functional.

As I said, they had to invent an entirely new activation functions just to make AI work. Relu is not a mathematical operation, at least not in any standard math.

In order to give the logic-people response they deserve, I invented a perfect chat loop designed to destroy any arguments logic-people make.

I hate logic-people. Ever since I was born, logic-people were oppressing me with their logic. Like, they tell me "You must do this because it's logical", "you must think this because it's logical". Logic-people are doing a form of oppression and psychological torture by constantly telling me to be logical.

They don't get it. I am not logical. I am religious. I don't believe in logic. I believe in God. I don't need to think because God does the thinking for me. I don't need to make sense because I am not a member of logic-tribe.

So I invented a perfect chat loop to oppress the logic-people in same way they oppress me.

The chat loop looks like this:

Logic-person: "You must do this, it's logical?"

Me: "What does "logical" mean? I am just a Meowist."

Logic-person: "Logical means following law of identity."

Me: "What is identity? I am just a Meowist".

Logic-person: "Law of identity means thing is equal to itself".

Me: "What is equal? I am still just a Meowist".

This chat loop creates infinite regress where each next word they use to describe previous word, gets used in "What's that" question.

This chat loop exploits a problem in dictionary where all meanings and definitions end up being circular.

I designed this chat loop as a self-sufficient answer to logic-people.

Logic-people started this war, plunged world into chaos, and now the chat loop will annoy them and restore peace.

Then why does the left love AI art?

They are Communists. They like having things but hate paying for them.

If only Christians could use ChatGPT.

Here is chatgpt explaining why Jesus is a scammer and just one of many "Messiahs" of his time:

There are several strong arguments against Jesus being the Jewish Messiah (Mashiach), particularly when examining the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and comparing its messianic prophecies with what Jesus actually accomplished.

The central argument is that Jesus did not fulfill the defining requirements of the Messiah during his lifetime. Christianity generally answers this by arguing that Jesus will fulfill the remaining prophecies during his Second Coming. Traditional Judaism generally rejects that interpretation.

1. The Messiah was supposed to establish world peace

Prophecy: Isaiah 2:2–4

Isaiah describes a future in which:

1. Nations no longer wage war against one another.
2. People turn their weapons into agricultural tools.
3. Nations live under God's instruction.

Problem: Jesus did not establish worldwide peace. Wars continued, nations continued fighting, and the world did not enter the prophesied era of peace.

2. The Messiah was supposed to gather all Jewish exiles

Prophecy: Isaiah 11:11–12

The prophecy describes God gathering the dispersed Israelites from different nations.

Problem: Jesus did not gather all Jewish exiles into Israel. Jewish communities remained scattered throughout the world.

3. The Messiah was supposed to restore the Temple

Prophecy: Ezekiel 37:24–28

The passage describes a future Davidic ruler, Israel's restoration, and God's sanctuary dwelling among the people.

Problem: Jesus did not rebuild or restore the Temple. In fact, the Second Temple was destroyed in 70 CE, decades after his death.

4. The Messiah was supposed to be a king descended from David

Prophecy: Jeremiah 23:5–6

God promises to raise a righteous Branch for David who will reign as king.

Problem: Jesus never established himself as a reigning political king over Israel.

There is also a genealogical difficulty: Matthew and Luke provide different genealogies for Jesus. Furthermore, if Jesus was born of a virgin, as Christianity teaches, his biological descent from Joseph becomes a question that needs to be addressed.

5. The Messiah was supposed to bring universal knowledge of God

Prophecy: Isaiah 11:9

"For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea."

Problem: The world is not universally knowledgeable of God. There are still enormous differences in religious belief, widespread disbelief, and conflict over religion.

6. The Messiah was supposed to fulfill God's promises to Israel

Prophecy: Ezekiel 37:21–28

This passage describes:

1. Israel being gathered from the nations.
2. The people becoming one nation.
3. A Davidic king ruling over them.
4. Israel living securely.
5. An everlasting covenant of peace.

Problem: These events did not occur during Jesus' lifetime.

7. The Messiah was supposed to observe and uphold God's Law

Prophecy: Deuteronomy 13:1–5

This passage establishes that even someone who performs miracles must be rejected if he leads people away from God's commandments.

Problem: Christianity teaches that Jesus introduced a new covenant and that certain requirements of the Mosaic Law are no longer binding in their original form.

From a traditional Jewish perspective, this creates a serious problem: the Messiah should restore Israel's faithfulness to God's Torah, not replace its commandments with a different religious system.

8. The Messiah was supposed to reign, not die without fulfilling his mission

Prophecy: Jeremiah 23:5–6

The promised Davidic ruler is described as a king who exercises justice and righteousness.

Problem: Jesus was executed by crucifixion without establishing the promised kingdom.

Christianity responds that Jesus had to die for humanity's sins and would return to establish his kingdom. However, the Jewish objection is that the Hebrew Bible does not clearly establish a requirement that the Messiah must come twice, die, and complete his mission in a second lifetime.

9. The Messiah was supposed to restore Israel's independence and security

Prophecy: Ezekiel 34:23–28

The passage describes a Davidic shepherd ruling over Israel, with the people living securely and no longer suffering from oppression.

Problem: Jesus did not liberate Israel from Roman rule. Israel remained under Roman control, and the Jewish people continued experiencing political oppression and eventually the destruction of Jerusalem.

The strongest logical argument

The objections can be organized into a straightforward deductive argument:

1. The Hebrew Bible describes specific events that will characterize the Messiah's reign.
2. These events include worldwide peace, the gathering of Jewish exiles, Israel's restoration, and the establishment of Davidic rule.
3. Jesus died without accomplishing these things.
4. Therefore, Jesus did not fulfill the biblical description of the Messiah during his lifetime.
5. Consequently, identifying Jesus as the Messiah requires an additional explanation: that the prophecies will be fulfilled in a future return.

The important distinction is between proving that Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies and proving that he could never fulfill them in the future. The former is a much stronger historical argument than the latter.

Christian responses and Jewish counterarguments

Christian responseTraditional Jewish objectionJesus will fulfill the prophecies at his Second Coming.The Hebrew Bible describes the Messiah accomplishing these things as part of his messianic mission.Jesus is the suffering servant of Isaiah 53.Isaiah 53 can be interpreted as describing Israel collectively rather than an individual Messiah.Jesus fulfilled the prophecies spiritually.The prophecies describe concrete events, including peace, restoration and political rule.Jesus established a new covenant.God's covenant and Torah are not supposed to be abolished by a future Messiah.Jesus is the divine Messiah.Traditional Jewish messianism expects a human Davidic king, not God incarnate.

My assessment

The three strongest objections are:

1. Unfulfilled prophecies: The Messiah's central tasks of restoring Israel, gathering the exiles and establishing worldwide peace were not accomplished.
2. The Second Coming problem: The claim that Jesus will fulfill the remaining prophecies later requires an additional theological interpretation that is not explicitly established by the messianic descriptions themselves.
3. The Torah problem: Traditional Judaism sees the Torah as eternally binding, whereas some Christian doctrines interpret its commandments differently.

One important qualification: these arguments challenge Jesus' identification as the Messiah according to traditional Jewish criteria. They do not, by themselves, disprove every Christian interpretation of Jesus.

The most productive next step would be to examine the actual Hebrew passages in their original context, particularly Isaiah 11, Jeremiah 23, Ezekiel 37 and Deuteronomy 13, rather than relying on interpretations supplied by either religion.

Yes, but he accused me of being logical. He said "you are using logic". Dude is insane. He thinks I used pure logic to arrive at conclusion that logic is wrong.

You are hired as a stripper at our Big Bang Club !

Praise the heavens!!!

meow math doesn’t work, stick to the real thing.

I assume you are not a mathematician, because what you are saying is just ridiculous.

I just destroyed leftist ideology.

Its not much of an ideology. They mostly just scream at people on Tik Tok.

This guy accused me of being logical, so I corrected him.

it is still a tool that works, it's just not clear why.

I mean, math was one of biggest obstacles in AI development. They literally had to introduce non mathematical operations to make AI functional.

This is because AI depends on non linear math.

Linear math only works with one weight. When you have multiple weights, linear math effectively still turns them into 1 weight.

They tried to solve a problem with square numbers, to introduce non linearity, but square removes negative numbers and this was a problem.

In the end, they settled for non mathematical function which changes number in an entirely different way.

I repeat, the regular math cannot make AI functional. AI is a system which turns input into numbers, and then changes those numbers by multiplications to produce output. However, because AI entirely depends on non linear math, and regular math proved itself impossible here, to develop AI they invented math functions which never existed before.

I mean, plenty of mathematicians were arguing how math is a complete system, until Godel's incompleteness theorem proved beyond doubt that math cannot form a complete system.

Who shaves the barber in a town where the barber shaves everybody that doesn't shave himself.

I assume this is problem of circularity in math, as well as a contradiction of any closed math sets. If barber doesnt have himself, he shaves himself, creating a contradiction, and similar is true for math generally. If math does calculations for all areas which cannot do calculations on their own, who does calculations for math?

How about the square root problem, would you call that an example of math that doesn't make sense.

The square root of 4 is 2, it's also negative 2, and 2 does not equal negative 2.

Yes, that is an example of math not making sense.

Another example is that -2 is two times smaller than -1, but when you divide -2 by 2, you get -1. Division somehow creates a bigger number instead of smaller one, while multiplication creates a smaller number instead of bigger one.

It's also why 0 is the most problematic number in math. I call him "Troublemaker". This is why my original question was which number is two times greater than zero. There is literally no such number in math.

Any positive number is assumed to be greater than zero, but it is impossible to calculate how many times greater.

How many times is 1 greater than zero?

And why does each number multiplied by zero produce zero?

Multiplication is supposed to produce a number greater than the numbers being multiplied, but this isn't true neither with zero neither with negative number.

And also, what is square root of -4?

Magic { poof! dissipation out of existence } and,

...miracles { extra-ordinary } exist beyond human comprehension?

Magic exists beyond human comprehension. The best example of this is human inability to explain the existence itself. Only magic can explain it. Humans and logic and observation cannot.

So, the men paid $9 each, 3 times $9 is $27, plus the $2 tip is $29, where did the other dollar go?

Boy swallowed it.

Actually, this isn't example of math not making sense.

The men already payed 30$. They got back 5, so they actually payed 25, and now have 5$ left. When they gave boy 2$, they are left with 3$. 25 plus 3 plus 2 is indeed 30.

However, the example makes an error of summing up expenses twice at the end. It completely ignores the 3$ left, and sums up 2$ twice.

Men are left with 3$. They payed 25$ for room and 2$ to boy. That's 27$ expenses. They still have 3$ left. That is 30$.

Hate speech is just something made up by Communists to silence the opposition. All speech causes harm to someone, but Communists and pink Marxists chose to weaponize that by labeling anything which goes against their ideology as hate speech. I mean, just try walking into a gay bar with a shirt which says "Butt sex is gross. Pray your gay away.". You will be accused of hate speech.

Thanks to this hair cut, my head looks even bigger.

As you can see, the mustache is already back. It's one of curses of being born as a disgusting boy.

your mother was right, zedvictor was wrong but hey ignore us.

You talking about clean shave? Cuz I have some curse where mustache just grows back after 2 or 3 days after shaving. Clean shave is a lot of work.

Remy posts are just the opposite of a Guardian article with the same mad libs format. Instead of a headline like, "Straight white men are having wrong opinions about TV shows," it's something like "Bisexual trans women are hypocritical for not wanting China to annex New Zealand."

I mean, I am probably among biggest trolls in history of this site, and even I run out of ideas. Simply put, person is expected to produce more of new ideas, as opposed to getting repetitive, but this actually causes innovation decline because new things cant be guaranteed to produce as good result.

Eroom’s Law, Enshittification (The Platform Decay Theory), Wirth’s Law (The Software Bloat Theory)... they all talk about this. New things arent always better. In fact, once you run out of good things, the only new things you can produce are bad things.

They will say, "AI art is real art" and then want to ban data centers (which makes the AI possible).

The reason why people hate data centers is because the use of resources keeps skyrocketting. AI is a hole without bottom. It doesnt matter how much resources you give to AI, there is always more to give to make AI endlessly bigger. AI size is actually infinite. There is no limit to how many parameters AI can have. So these data centers keep increasing AI, and with it, resources AI uses. Its an endless race to produce bigger and bigger AI, and there is no limit to it. However, there is a limit to electricity bill people can afford, and endless development of AI means endless increase in electricity bill, because the bigger AI gets, more electricity it uses. So electricity bills in area increase.

Your rage bait is getting lazy, dude

There is only so much rage bait person can do on a site with 30 active members. I mean, once you run out of rape jokes and jokes about women being foids and jokes about Jews, there is not much rage bait left. Its very difficult to keep 30 people triggered all the time.

He's not going to allow a peaceful transition of power, of that I'm sure, and I think it will make Jan 6 look like a picnic.

Given that he loses all power if he allows transition of power, and probably even goes to prison after if he doesnt get impeached immediatelly, can you think of one good reason why Trump would allow peaceful transition of power?

Trump is in lose all gain nothing situation if he allows peaceful transition of power.

I expected Trump to lose because even Americans cant be retarded enough to support this, and his approval rating was so low that its insane he is even still in power.

Ever since I said at start of Iran war, that Iran will win the war, people thought I was joking. No, I was not joking. Trump will be the loser. I knew it from day 1 of war. Pretty much every military expert was predicting the same as me. However, what I also knew is that Iran war will be Trump's political suicide, mainly because he ran an election campaign promising to end all wars. Betraying that promise was his biggest political suicide he could do.

I actually even wondered why Trump started war in Iran. It doesnt seem like a rational decision. Someone probably blackmailed him to do it. Decision simply doesnt make sense on any level.

This is literally what I just spent 3 paragraphs explaining to you. Try reading it.

Sadly, the definition of logical doesnt agree with your explanation.

Ah, so you are just trolling. That’s good, I was starting to be afraid that you really were that stupid. You almost had me there.

Whatever makes your concessions feel better.

Logic works exactly the same way. someone can use logic (as is the process by which we arrive at conclusions from a given set of premises) and someone can be logical (as in assert conclusions that are logically valid).

How do you use logic without being logical? Do you even know what logical is? Previously you said I failed to use logic (hence didnt use it), and now you change your mind again and say "You used logic but not logically". Even from a logical point of view, your words dont make any sense. If my conclusions arent logical, it just means they dont follow laws of logic.

Logical definition: being in accordance with logic.

This was very embarrassing from you, to be honest. Why do logic-people embarrass themselves like this?

C'mon this is right up your ally, you're all about things that don't make sense right?

Yes, and you are invading my territory by appealing to magical solutions of the Tri-God.

Though you have have previously, readily taken science, math and logic on board.

Thats when I believed that math makes sense, but now I see that it doesnt.

They're each god. 

Are they each God or are they parts of God? Cuz first one means you got 3 Gods.

baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit

Which one of those is God?

I hate to have to break it to you. but Mao died in 1976

That's true only in reality.