I'm guessing that computers, AKA AI, will quickly suss out the difference between human stupidity and logic and eradicate the stupid.
I'm guessing that computers, AKA AI, will quickly suss out the difference between human stupidity and logic and eradicate the stupid.
Yes, I too try to help deluded theists on this site by introducing logic therapy.
But unfortunately formative programming is extremely difficult to overwrite...Such is global societies overriding problem.
And Debby flutters her metaphorical eyelids and you go all gooey...Haha, that was an unintentional double entendre.
In that imagination of yours.
There are no logical proofs...The whole thing starts off with an illogical claim...So as I stated, everything that follows is irrelevant elaboration.
As for the old prove atheism argument, that is just an avoidance tactic.
So once again I ask you to unequivocally prove that Abe's god is real so that we can resolve the issue....As it stands I have nothing to prove.
As it stands, I simply conclude that as you cannot substantiate Abe's claim, his god was therefore a figment of his imagination or a deception.
Quinquae viae is just 13th century gobbledegook...Latinized word play designed to deceive...Because just as for any other latter day Abrahamic theist, substantiating the basis of Catholicism and associated religions, is an impossibility.
So, I do not believe anything...One either knows something or one doesn't...And just like you I do not know if Abe actually met an extra-universal god.
Though what I will say is, that if an extra-terrestrial influencer did happen upon a lone old man up a mountain, then said ET would be a damn site more clever and sensible than you and your ilk ever give it credit for...All that sin and salvation baloney...Get logical SD.
Well I would prefer it to be a large bar of toblerone chocolate, but we can't have everything.
Though she believes in fairy stories, which somewhat diminishes her credibility as a therapist.
Yes Mr Smith, fairies do live at the bottom of your garden...That will be $100 please.
Judge: Well Mr Smith what have you got to say for yourself?
Mr Smith: It was the fairies that told me to do it.
Well one assumes that the person latterly referred to as Jesus was based upon a real delusional person...So one doesn't reject the basic story out of hand, though recorded history does unfortunately make us all too aware of both the negative and positive outcomes of socio-political societies that are based upon belief in hypothetical fantasy creators.
Who the f**k was going to observe the beginning of the universe.
Hence why we can only theorise, rather than faithfully leap.
Now, if you want to faithfully leap, go kneel and pray to a magic creator man.
So is the other half built yet?
Ahhhh...Perhaps it was a typo.
So why the Finnish reference?
Not sure about either lamguages or kanguages, but post Jesus folktales that migrated from their point of origin were readily recorded and transcribed into Greek and Latin, whereas Hebrew tended to be the language of Judaists, who weren't Christians and therefore didn't compile Bibles per se...It was in fact, not until Christian mythology was popularised in central and western Europe that the "Holy Bible" was compiled.
It's a moth.
Anyone can make up any claim and therefore any such claim can be neither proven or disproven...Though it's fair to expect that the initial claim should be unequivocally proven to be true...And of course, if proven to be true then any contention becomes irrelevant anyway.
So several thousand years ago a bloke whose credibility can never be judged, claims to have met a magical god up a mountain....This is the basis of your theism, so prove this and the case is closed.
I do not need to either prove or disprove anything...I simply will remain unconvinced of the initial claim, until such times when you can unequivocally substantiate the initial claim.
Further, until you do unequivocally substantiate Abe's claim and therefore the existence of an extra-universal god, any ensuing theistic dogma, literature, organisation or ritualism is merely incidental...Neither here nor there in respect of the initial claim or any reasonable contention arising.....Same with any other world religion based upon abstract metaphysical concepts.
Clever stupid gene.
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The Bible doesn't have to be perfect to contain inspired truth. I personally find the Bible to be infallible on essential faith and morals but a person could also find it just inspired and generally containing truth. I find skeptics often strawman Christianity with ridiculous ideas of fundamentalists
Hmmmm...Well truth is either truth or not...And what the heck does "infallible on essential faith" actually mean...And sadly morals on paper have a tendency not to be the same in practice....Currently Jewish morals are a tad thin on the ground...And what is a ridiculous idea of a fundamentalist, if not the ideas of a religious believer, such as a Christian...It's always the other guy that's the fundamentalist, isn't it?
Funny that Mr Omniscient didn't have a smartphone...Being omniscient and all that...Had to make do with old Moses and a hammer and chisel.
Didn't even have a pen and paper.
And in order to debunk atheist logic Servus, you firstly have to prove theist fantasy...It's not a chicken and egg scenario...It's you that says that a magic man exists somewhere, so prove it...I don't have anything to prove...Show me God and the case is closed.
"John" was a narrative compiled by persons unknown, sometime after the supposed execution death of a bloke latterly referred to as Jesus. So said Jesus bloke didn't directly explain anything...Such is hearsay...Such becomes a work of mythical fiction.
Yes, inbreeding and isolationism sure has it's downsides...Not just for inbred isolationists.
Which is why mongrel's are better than pedigree's.
A universal information matrix is a likely evolutionary outcome, just as a thinking species was an evolutionary outcome...How the two will interact remains to be seen.
A whole load more nonsense theo-propaganda.
All written by men for men, sometime later...Sometimes a lot later.
Though the kid might have Trump genes, so is it worth the risk.
And the dog will save itself.
Best just to think of number one and get the hell out.
Well deism is an obvious hypothetical outcome relative to an evolving intellectual species...So absolutely no need for a deity to exist...All that was required was the inquisitive species...If it wasn't for an asteroid, God and Jesus would probably have been divine lizards.
And man is pre-programmed to be a survivalist, so if God, then God designed "fallen man"...Bit of a daft thing to do.
"Evidence for atheism"...Evidence of what?...It's you who has a magic creator God, who impregnates a Jewish virgin who gives birth to.........God.....Who then gets himself executed, recovers, and then flies off to a magic realm named heaven, where he awaits the arrival of paid up believers...Otherwise it's of to the other magic realm named hell where the guy with the big horns is going to burn non-believers for eternity.................. You prove that.
Atheism is simply the opposite of theism and needs no other evidence..
Orange kid and Black Labrador Retreiver.
Two things about predators and prey in a balanced ecosystem is that: 1. The prey species is often more prolific in numbers than the predator species...Because: 2. The predator species would not survive without the prey species.
Well, nice to see that you somewhat agree with the observation that most if not all post Jesus, Abrahamic theism is a stylised version of something or other that might have preceded it...Hand me down folk tales, I'm guessing.
Voices for peace and unity...Hmmmmm...But doesn't work in practice, never has done...It's been 2026 years, and global society sure is peaceful and unified.
And I did say think about it objectively...Take the baby and never mention religion to it and it will be atheist...It's quite simple...To become a theist requires a considerable amount of multifarious post natal data programming.
I never change my mind...Well I sometimes do...But there again I never do...Though I do sometimes...Never...Often...No I don't...Yes I do.