SergeantLynch

Debby wrote:

People change their minds often, but they do not change their nature. They remain the same even after changing their mind.

Well stated Debs...I knew that your therapy training would come in useful one day.

Hmmmmm...Or, just blip.

So, modern theo-political technique and propaganda is highly stylised as it always has been, and post Jesus written narratives are basically copies of each other. Even "Jesus" is a stylised and Europeanised version of an assumed original...But you fall for this deception and take it at face value...Which if harmless, is harmless I suppose, though over the millennia since Abrahams hallucinatory experiences religion has had a tendency, to be somewhat harmful (to say the least)...Still is to this day...

Such is human nature isn't it?...Create divided societies with competing fantasy ideologies, et voila...And will we ever change?...Well for as long as we continue to teach our kids competing fantasy nonsenses, then we are never going to get any better.

Let's hope that AI doesn't inherit the human stupid gene.

Anyway, food for thought...It's quite simple and logical...Atheism disproves theism...Think about it objectively if you can...But I doubt that you can.

So does it go from China to Finland via North Korea.

Proves that Kim deems it necessary to work with the super-power next door and that China sees benefit in having easy access to North Korea.

Murdering murderers is premeditated murder.

And therefore the notion of social justice and the enjoyment thereof is an absurd contradiction.

So, a delusional charlatan...Well yes, over the succeeding centuries there have been many, but for sure I can obviously offer no character witness for the bloke often referred to as Jesus, but neither can you...All that you have are latterly constructed hand me down folktales, which are a mixture of locational fact with a whole lot of fantasy inclusion, essentially myth.

Within this non-philosophical context, universal materialism should be self explanatory and describe the basis from which or before which any creator source arises from...Now as I see it the idea of a pre-universal creator is illogical and is what it is, an idea...So can you prove that it is anything more than an idea and therefore a logical possibility.

Brainwashing, is something that we are all subject to, such is the human condition. If all data was unacquired and innate then we would all sing from the same hymn sheet as it were, but as we clearly know, transferrable operating data varies considerably according to regional and social segregation.

As for "miracles", well a miracle is an against all odds positive outcome and if one considers that todays odds are perhaps 1 in 8.2 billion then we should expect an occasional miraculous outcome...Not to be confused with an hallucinatory apparition...Though for sure, conditioned numpties do love an hallucinatory apparition, as do theo-political business corporations...Yep theo-tourism is a big money spinner and also helps keep the masses subjugated.

Relative to the above, Thomas Aquinas is self explanatory, so I won't go into that at any great length...Just a comparatively well educated 13th century bloke with myth based ideas relative to his own conditioning.

As for myself...British raised at a time when religious influence was diminishing rapidly...Atheist parents whose WW2 experiences were confirmation enough that the idea of an all loving GOD was absolute baloney...So other than the fact that England thanks to King Henry VIII and his sexual shenanigans was deemed non-Catholic, the society that I was conditioned by was secular and predominately non-religious.

And so, GODDO did pop down to downtown Judea, just to get himself crucified so that he could prove some sort of bizarre point to a few local bods...Yep dead omni-clever...Shame that he forgot to tell the Chinese and the Indians and all the rest of the world that he was coming...Don't make me laugh.

Savvy BK...Look it up.

The reason why some people are wealthy and some are not is because some people are savvy and some are not.

If you have $1million or 12% you can either grow wealth or fritter.

Unfortunately Kermos is too much of a Kermit thermos hybrid.

Will 2999 be a no no?

Belief is futile linate.

One either knows something or one doesn't.

You and I are just as ignorant of the truth as everyone else is.

Though you are a wishful thinker and I am not.

So definitively, I'm not even a skeptic.

You accept an elaborated creation tale from a few thousand years ago as the basis of universal materialism, and therein lies the first massive contradiction.

It is impossible to know anything factual relating to this folktale.

Then along came a bloke claiming to be the son of a GOD...Yep such deluded people pop up from time to time.

And then some years later the tales migrate along with new tales of the charismatic charlatan and are adapted as systems of mass subjugation...And numpties suck it up...Yep it's what numpties continue to do.

There is no credible evidence for the existence of an actual pre-universal creator GOD...Elaborate yarns and ritualism are what they are...And the burgeoning wealth and power of the RC Church and others and the continuing brainwashing and subjugation of the masses is what it is.

So, if and when you can provide credible evidence for the existence of a pre-universal creator GOD, then I will undoubtedly care...But elaborated folk tales are of no use.

If you're watching and listening GOD, just pop down and re-introduce yourself to all Earth based life forms...It would perhaps do a whole lot of good if you did...But don't just rock up on a mountain and set fire to a bush or something stupid like that.

Such is the nature of the unconditioned Debs.

And Zebedee said time for bed...Such is a child's fantasy tale.

Notwithstanding Florence and the magic roundabout, can either you (linate) or Mr Dei prove that the basis of the Abrahamic hypothesis is in anyway factual or logical, rather than just a naive idea blown out of all proportion...Me thinks not.

And yet here you are (presumably mature adults) espousing this stuff in great fabricated detail as if it's somehow logical and reasonable.

And Debby is no better, and yet they are supposedly a therapist...What chance ailing minds when your therapists mind is so corrupted with nonsense.

It's no wonder that the human race and global society is never able to evolve beyond the limitations imposed by subconscious innate data, especially when it's still hooked up on the ramblings of an old man who may or may not have existed several thousand years ago.

And if you cannot validate the basis, you therefore cannot validate anything that came after.

Debby wrote:

The mind functions independently of the brain. But the brain provides the stimulation for the mind to process.

Debby wrote:

Consciousness is limited by the brain, but it’s reach is beyond the brain.

Both short statements are overtly contradictory.

A. If the mind is independent then it does not require a brain, otherwise it is not independent.

B. If the brain limits consciousness, then the reach of consciousness is not beyond the brain.

Airy-fairyness is not always logical, which for sure is a perfect basis for fairy tales.

But a problem always arises when you attempt to employ airy-fairyness and fairy tales as the basis of fact.

AI will supply direct to brain terminator simulations.

Debby wrote:

Jesus was an explorer. He discovered heaven and made it accessible to all.

More tosh Debs.

He wandered about locally, but not sure if he built any roads.

I'm guessing that heaven was John's arse.

Logic doesn't follow Kermos...You should have realised that by now.

Trump's currently only interested in diesel.

So vote Trump, vote diesel y'all.

So vote Trump, vote diesel y'all.

So vote Trump, vote diesel y'all.

Human rights and global security...F**k that.

Debby wrote:

Just appreciate a smart, intelligent woman for what she is smart and intelligent.

Well, I can only appreciate a simulated figment.

RemyBrown wrote:

Humans aren't angels nor demons; they're selfish and indifferent about the suffering of strangers.

I would agree.

Though some people like to set themselves up as bastions of morality...But when push comes to shove these people will inevitably contradict themselves.

GajarMooli wrote:

Not taking anything seriously

I don't take anything online seriously

Everything is just text, I am anonymous

You are anonymous

People are just a bunch of stupid lines online

That's why I am writing all this, If it were in offline setting I wouldn't give a f, and move on. But it's online so I am just calling it out, cause it needs to be called out.

Sure...Until, "cause it needs to be called out", which somewhat contradicts the preceding indifference.

It is what it is Gaj, don't take it to heart.

True, I've never really considered myself as pro-corpse, or indeed pro-ashes.

Anyway, Jeff had a good run...Much better than Jesus did.

Though BIG BANG is a nominal generalization of an initiated and progressive universe and the very fact that we are having this conversation would seem to support this idea...Nonetheless as such, theoretical ideas do not require faith, but rather, require further consideration.

A theory cannot disprove a theory...Only fact can disprove a theory...Though one theory might supplant another in terms of popularity.

Does anyone care about rape.

Primarily the rapist and then the raped.

And then relative to social, intellectual and moral evolution, various other individuals and collectives like to get on board.

And for sure, angels are human fantasy creatures and therefore not human per se.

Debby wrote:

Debby is the only real thing happening. The rest are figment of your imagination.

We can only assume that Debby is an actual female organism, and yes I put my hand up to figmentism.

And Side, you might need some eyedrops for that condition so that you can focus more clearly upon Shoresy's figment.

Debby wrote:

The mission of the church is to see the Christian population grow at the same time send more Christians to heaven.its a different mission from China which wants to populate the world with Chinese.

The mission of theo-political business organisations is to sell false hope and Chinese tat to the gullible...And the Chinese mission is to sell the necessary tat to whosoever is daft enough to buy it.

One can be trained in, or learn, the art of deception.

Debby wrote:

God can read the intentions in your heart. If you are killed on your way to being baptized you will still be accepted as one who sought to be baptized.

Debby wrote:

Yes salvation is exclusive to Christianity. Jesus introduced the concept and was crucified soon after.

Man made tosh Debs...Or in this instance Debs made tosh.

Hearts are muscular organs that pump blood, baptism is a club ritual, more often imposed upon brainwashed children, and getting killed on the way is tough s**t.

And Jesus introduced a concept...Well, concepts abound...And the guy was executed for his perceived wrongdoings...Yep, tough s**t...Much better to keep quiet and concentrate on the carpentry business with stepdad...His gay, wandering self-righteous lifestyle obviously rubbed people up the wrong way.