Shoresy
The US and Britain had no claim on their oil reserves


Mosaddegh had no claim on the UK machinery and refineries valued at around 4 to 8 billion dollars in today's currency.


Iran’s view:

“Our oil, our land → we’re taking back control.”

Britain’s view:

“We built and owned that entire operation → you just seized our property.”


Seems like they were right in hindsight given how untrustworthy the US is.

They probs learned from Iran. If Trump or JFK ran the UK 50 years ago, Iran would have been nuked for stealing 8 billion in national assets.

Shoresy

USA and Iran will say nuclear fuel is now being stored in schools because Trump said he wouldn't bomb a school.

Shoresy

Pretty sure the Shiite Muslims in Iran can reach Vatican City with their Ballistic Missles. We should actually hand over some 90% Uranium, let them blow up both the Vatican and Israel.


There can be only one world religion.

Inshallah

Shoresy
Murder has been outlawed since Hammurabi, and it's still an issue.


If you ask a lot of Blue Maga like Skywalker, they would say the blue cities report next to no murders happening, so it's not an issue. Making it illegal is all the panacea they need in their beep-boop decision tree.

Shoresy
should a person need to show ID to vote" failing to take into account that the person already provided their ID when they registered. 


In California, undocumented residents can legally get a driver’s license. That should not be disputed by either partisan side. Those licenses are supposed to be separated from voter registration systems, so they are not automatically registered to vote.


But when it comes to voter registration itself, the system does not require someone to prove citizenship at the moment they register. Instead, it relies on the person checking a box and affirming, under penalty of perjury, that they are a U.S. citizen.


So the real issue is not that undocumented immigrants are being automatically registered without a picture ID. The issue is that the system depends on self-attestation of citizenship rather than upfront proof. i.e., the system requires no identification of citizenship or verification. So yes, you can register with a CA driver's license as an undocumented citizen and say "yup, I had a picture ID." "System is secure!"


There are also many cases showing how weak the verification systems are when people have repeatedly been able to register their pets to vote by mail as examples of the ease of fraud and lack of secure voting systems.

Shoresy
All you guys can do is caricature the other side and attack you're fantasy demons, cause you have nothing else.


That's not just a feature of Blue Maga, it's also fundamentally part of Red Maga.


If it were not for the capacity to create blind loyalists on both sides, wedge issues like these wouldn't exist for the sake of manufacturing blind loyal voters.


And it's okay to be blue Maga, don't think it's an insult.

Shoresy

Let's start with Voter ID since it's recent.


Then we can talk about banning fossil fuels, decriminalizing unregistered border crossings, defund the police, defund ICE, defund TSA, defund ATC, reinstating DEI based on skin color,


Most of these 20 percent sides were grabbed in the past decade as a vehicle to energize Blue Maga.

Shoresy
I just gave you 9 paragraphs to back up my position, which for me was an exercise in restraint, 

Yah, not a word you typed justified the blind acceptance of the 20 percent side on most 20-80 issues.


20 percent isn't "common sense," no matter how many words you mash out in this thread.


Enjoy the Blue Maga delusions. Feel free to come up with 9 more paragraphs of strawmen and red herrings that never explain the obvious delusions of Blue Maga.

Shoresy

I never heard of the label. I'm sure Red Maga uses the same words you do with as much evidence. Enjoy the hate cult. That's how Trump trolled you on every 80-20 issue, because as the OP said, in the hate cult, Whatever Trump says, you have to take the opposite side, even if it's the 20% side.

Reason and common sense, my ass.

Shoresy
red states like Mississippi, and not northern ones like Montana.

or, in this case, people. I’ll leave you to figure that one out



Hmm. Are you hinting at a certain cultural demographic in that state?

Shoresy
He constantly brags that his base is morally bankrupt, "poorly educated", and "not smart" and they don’t care.


I don't even think he is talking about just his base, but rather all Americans. Trump literally has no competition in USA politics for the sole reason that there are more people in Hate-Trump and Love-Trump cults than there are people in the "Do-Better" cult.


The best the "Do-Better" cult came up with is Biden and Kamala?


Trump doesn't even have to say the obvious truth about American stupidity. About time someone made America pay the consequences. I really don't feel bad at all for the country of fraud. When you promote stupidity and apathy, the consequence is exploitation.

Shoresy

There's also the Trump=hating cult. Both cults are as blind as bats.



The Trump-hating cult literally trolled half of your Congress to pronounce they are the party that PRIORITIZES...UNDOCUMENTED...AMERICANS....


Absolutely clueless 20-80 issue virtue signalling.

Shoresy
Its funny to think about. No matter what trump does, his core base will say hes exactly right. He could have done the exact opposite thing to what they think hes exactly right about, and either way, they'll think he's exactly right. I dont think his core base has enough awareness to know they do that.


The Trump-hating base is almost as large as the Trump-loving base.

I don't think the Trump-hating base has enough awareness to know exactly why they take the 20 percent side on nearly EVERY 80-20 percent political issue in the US.

And the Trump-lovers probably don't have enough awareness to know they are on the 80% side of most 80-20 issues.

But it's a good bet Trump knows why he is on the 80 percent side.

Shoresy

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man will always be the king.


In political terms, in the land of politicians with no national vision, the novice with a plan of a plan of a plan will rule the halls of power.