Shoresy

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SJRk5PV588Q

Contrast MAGA with Kamala declaring that she wouldn't do anything different from Biden, and it's clear the American parties are functionally reversing their roles, where Democrants will fight tooth and nail for status quo(conservative), and MAGA wants real change(progressive). Democrats are acting as the party of maintenance while MAGA is acting as the party of change, which is why the rhetoric feels inverted, and massive amounts of gaslighting are required to keep the game going.

Shoresy

But MAGA isn't remotely conservative.


Conservative means let America be, not make it great. Every change he made recently were things Obama and Bill Clinton promised.


There is 0% chance, in any universe,that trump could have even had the oppurtunity to be considered as a democrat candidate


I agree, a 2025 Democrat has an insane rulebook to follow. Trump just filled the vacuum created when the Democrat party jumped out of the Overton Window.

Shoresy
Not that protesting is illegal anyhow.


And this is what is going to get many, many more killed...all over again. Protesting isn’t illegal. Obstructing law enforcement is.

When people block officers from executing democratically enacted law, when they physically charge an officer or put their hands on an officer lawfully detaining people for questioning, that stops being a protest and becomes illegal mob coercion.

These people are obstructing the law, and you call it protesting... and legal.


That's mob rule, not democracy, and mob rule always means dead people. Mobs are rarely the majority; they are mostly loud, frequently violent, and always obstructing law enforcement and the democracy that created law enforcement.


And for you to call that "legal"...well, historically, when mobs substitute themselves for lawful authority, people get hurt or killed. That pattern is boringly consistent.

The Constitution was never made to shield mob rule from democratic law enforcement. Mob rule is pre-constitutional. It’s the state of nature the Constitution was written to prevent. Madison, Hamilton, all of them were obsessed with the possibility of factions, crowds, passions overriding law. The Constitution is designed to slow, channel, and civilize power, and not to sanctify whoever shouts loudest in the street while obstructing Law Enforcement. Activism should mean getting a consensus to change legislation...democracy in action should never include felony mob rule....

Shoresy

Nah, I think phobic people like Islamists are retarded and deserve to be shamed and ridiculed.

 they made these religions into a mockery and parody of itself. 

In fact, one of the least phobic jobs on the planet is a comedian.

Shoresy

What do you know about signal groups?


What's really funny is that MAGA trolls are learning to feed the signal chats with fake information, and they are getting the vigilantes to harass and assault regular people mistaken for ICE officers.


Live by vigilante justice, die by it, I guess.

Shoresy

Yeah, it's like computer-generated non-sequiturs spammed at regular intervals in EVERY forum category. How, under any metric, is this helpful to anyone?

Shoresy

I didn't mean to accuse you of anything, just saying there is a pattern of a whole lot of excusing of clear immoral behavior that's been going on in that state for many years, for purely political reasons. To suddenly hold law enforcement to some ridiculous standard in that vigilante environment is beyond reasonable. That isn’t principled ethics; it’s selective enforcement of morality.

Shoresy

I also remember Minneapolis police, in a way, have trained the public that it was okay to fight back against the local police after the George Floyd incident, so the priming and training of that public to form vigilante groups physically attacking law enforcement was many years in the making.


But I suppose we can give the entire city a pass for "political reasons."