Shoresy

I think Jasmine Crockett got drawn out of her seat. She's not bad, she was just drawn that way.

Shoresy

Canada isn't much different from London, minus the fog and plus snow. A babbling tower of competing cultures, each declaring their way of life to be intelligent and brilliant. All except Western cultures, which have collectively across the world decided to follow France's example in battle. Fromage feasting surrender simians.

Shoresy

Laissez-faire Capitalism is the same as an unrestricted Democracy. It allows people to make decisions with no restrictions, which for many people, means the subsidizing of terrible habits.

modern America:

super fat, overstimulated, drowning in empty purchases, and stuck in a healthcare loop that treats problems just enough to keep the cycle going, devoid of any real purpose beyond dopamine once Maslow's pyramid becomes obsolete....

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Yeah, your insane theatrical rants about fantasy predictions are gonna really console military families today.


You guys really lost the plot. If they didn't have a reason to hate you before, you just gave them one.

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100% guarantee you that you don't know shit about what really goes on in Sharia nations if you think they have no moral decay. What is worse is they have orgnanised, stratified immorality. They have top-down rot to the core of their societies and child marriage is just one of many examples.


I don't disagree. It's just that whatever order that does stem from Islam is still objectively superior to any order you can define from Atheism. What I’m saying is simply that Islam at least encompasses a shared, orderly moral structure. Atheism, by definition, produces none.


I agree, abuses exist in Islamic societies, absolutely. But a society with no shared moral structure is wide open to far worse outcomes, because there’s nothing binding anyone to anything when the state decides to redefine morality based on social fads. Child marriages are bad, true, but state-sanctioned grooming in an atheistic society is actually far worse!!! At least there is a red-line under Islam, even if it's not where many think it should be. But under a postmodern atheistic society, lines are not allowed. One year, a person can defend himself from violence, the next year, he is put in jail for "overdefending" himself. No clear lines.

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There's just inherently more order with Islam than with Atheism. It would be hard to debate otherwise. In a country like America, freedom without order is chaos and decay. Freedom in an orderly, moral society is liberty and progress.

Shoresy

I wonder if those National Guardsmen recently attacked and almost killed in your Capitol could have defended themselves better if not for all those fucked up "PSA's" your professional gamesters toss around.


I suppose your politicians discovered that if they frame Guardsmen or cops as “illegitimate,” they get instant applause from their base, and absolutely zero downside for being wrong. That’s how your country ends up with shutdowns, chaos, and people getting assassinated, because the political incentives in your country reward performance arts over reality.

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And yet, the far-left leader was the only one to compromise with the opposition president on making actual change. I would say that's a huge improvement over the usual order of business in New York. Liinate made a thread recently about Americans losing their good conscience. Whatever you may think about the Muslim faith, it's still far superior to no faith.

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John Adams

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

— Letter to the Massachusetts Militia, 1798


George Washington

“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports.”

— Farewell Address, 1796


Benjamin Franklin

“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of tyrannical masters.”

— Letter to the Abbes Chalut and Arnaud, 1787


Samuel Adams

“A general dissolution of principles and manners will more surely overthrow the liberties of America than the whole force of the common enemy.”

— Letter to James Warren, 1779


Patrick Henry

“Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains.”

— appears in collections of his political writings

Shoresy

I would hold the position that language is a subset of culture, and it's not the only means of transmitting behavioral patterns to the next generation.

Let's look at the bees.


Their waggle dance isn’t really what i would call a “language” the way we use language. It’s more like a hard-wired DNA instinctive signaling system. Bees don’t invent new grammar, new symbols, or new meanings, and don't pass the behaviors down through that channel. It’s instinct acting like communication, but it's not language. And we can track some behavioral changes through DNA alone, with no need for language.


But bees still show behavioral traits that go beyond that instinctual dance:

Different hives have different personalities, different developed strategies for building comb, different evolved thresholds for aggression, even regional foraging patterns that can shift from generation to generation. And these changes in hive behavior are not completely explained by genetic mutations. That’s culture without a true language. But if you define the word culture as behavior that changes and then is passed down outside of instincts, then yes, i suppose language would be fundamentally necessary for that vehicle, even if it's not words.


But if you define DNA encoding as a language, then it would cover that case as well. :)

Shoresy

fence sitting voter in your country be like:

2020 was like..meh he didnt fix all the things...so we can try the other guy....

2024 was like omfg they tried to jail him and kill him and then censor everything....we cant reward that



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deserved to die ...


You Americans and your obsession with morbid thoughts....these rants seem less about Trump and more about your team and country not matching the identity you built around it.

Shoresy

Curiously, I looked up your military laws and it says nothing "mandating" the refusal of unlawful orders. All it does say is that following an unlawful order provides no protections under the UCMJ. Lawful orders are defined by military and civilian judges. So if you disobey a military order, thinking it is your duty to ignore orders you don't think are lawful, lawful orders or not, you will eventually be in front of a court martial to hash it out after. And if you guessed wrong, the penalties are quite harsh.





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Election 2025

Shoresy · a year ago

for it as written is premised on the idea that I get to decide who replaces Trump


That was a fundamentally flawed conclusion you drew, and it's evidence of why you struggle to carry on a basic conversation. Who you want never amounts to the bestowing of magical powers under any fictitious premise pulled out of the ether. It's simply a matter of your preference, of which you apparently have none. Or quite possibly, a preference for anarchy, as that is a fast-growing movement parallel with MAGA in your country. Yes, this is probably the obvious case, absent of a normal conversation between normal people.


If I was giving you too much credit let me know.


No, that was me giving you too much credit, and my faulty assumption that you had the ability to carry on a basic conversation. I assumed you could track a basic question about preference without inventing magical powers nobody claimed. Clearly a faulty assumption on my part.

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Also waiting for the mysterious "illegal order" that they want to incite the US military to defy.


I suppose some rando judge in the middle of bumfuck USA will eventually "declare" an order "unlawful," thus setting off a second civil war for you guys.

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Election 2025

Shoresy · a year ago

That is not what I asked you. You either lie or can't participate in basic communication. Sad in either case.

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Election 2025

Shoresy · a year ago

What is. Say it. Commit to an answer. You complain in every post about "unserious people"...

this is you being unserious. Again.

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Election 2025

Shoresy · a year ago

Read the constitution, it explains this.


How about a committal answer instead.