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They reek of smugness, are impervious to reason, and simply regurgitate whatever was last shitted down their throat by the rest of their social media feed, most of whom received the information in the same way.

yeah it’s the mix of smugness and ignorance that results in some truly nasty displays. And I think being a “digital native” just scrambled peoples brains.

YouGov actually just polled this and the results are bleak to say the least. Among “young” (18-44) liberals only a bare majority are willing to say that celebrating the death of a public figure you oppose and politics violence are unacceptable. That’s really not good at all. And Kirk really was not some radical at all, it wouldn’t be justified even if he was some white nationalist or something but this guy was just a normal conservative advocating views more or less in line with half the country…

https://x.com/sival84/status/1967120265567236461?s=46&t=XyI0XggPG-A0IFGA0FJzyQ

This is what has me so bothered, that some people could be brainwashed so thoroughly as to not just forsake the natural impulse to avoid killing each other

actually what’s even scarier is that the natural impulse seems to be TO kill. It took a lot of work, centuries to make going from the type of base savagery enjoyed by people like the Vikings, the Aztecs, plains Indians etc even possible. And even “civilized” peoples can go back on a dime (see the world wars)…I really really don’t want to have to deal with this, especially the culture war stuff we fight about in American politics is absolutely NOT worth it

I think the scandal/questions about his age and health will overshadow everything else about his legacy but yeah the older generations of politicians (and Biden was old enough to potentially have toddler memories of WWII) had a much stronger sense of propriety. Even when though I think of them as detestable swamp creatures in many ways—and they were—I think they understood on a gut level even if they couldn’t articulate it that politics is war by other means and actual war means what happened to Charlie Kirk happening to thousands or even millions of people. Maybe even YOU.

Thats why norms are so important. Trump was necessary to blow up a bipartisan consensus that was no longer doing the people any good but Jeb was right that he was the “chaos candidate” and not in a good way…and honestly even beyond just him there’s just something wrong with generations born post 1980. I really don’t know what it is or how to put it better than that but it ain’t looking good really

I said it when Trump was almost assassinated, and I’ll say it again now. Anyone who justifies this kind of senseless violence should be ashamed.

I think Biden has a lot of issues as a man and as POTUS but one thing he did that I really respected is that when Trump was shot he immediately and unequivocally condemned it and spoke with him in a way that I think was sincere. Despite his personal hatred of the man. Because despite his many flaws (in my opinion at least) he was wise enough to understand the absolute and utter horror that such a thing could’ve, and still could, unleash.

Widespread political violence is one of my worst fears. It doesn't look like any sort of heroic stand against fascism or communism or whatever. It looks like a young father getting shot in the jugular and losing a pint of blood in 0.25 seconds while his family looks on. Again and again and again. On both sides. Could even be YOU! It can’t be allowed happen. This is the one time I actually support cancel culture, if someone is celebrating this they need to be socially ostracized.

I’ve come around to being much more anti gun than typical on the right (we do need gun rights but the current laxness is ridiculous)…but it appears he was killed by a bolt action hunting rifle. I don’t think any policy outside of a total ban on all guns with mass confiscation could prevent that

Seeing people on my Facebook celebrating his death under their real names has deeply disturbed me, and has actually *hurt* to see in a way I didn’t expect. I always felt I was a little jaded and cynical but I guess not. I was never a fan, the schtick of owning college kids with FACTS and LOGIC in little clippable moments never appealed to me. But the man had his thrown blown out in front of his family for the crime of…talking and debating with people. Literally what we’re doing here in this site.

And his views for the most part were not extreme at all. And even if they were this is an extreme attack on freedom of speech.

idk it goes back to a growing sense of dread I’ve been feeling about my generation generally. A lot of people never grew up. They actively got worse. A lot of people I’ve seen celebrating his death weren’t like that when I knew them. Also you should not celebrate someone’s death unless you think their conduct should be illegal and punished with the death penalty. Anything else is pure cowardice

Thank you sir! I’m a mobile only prole lol

Bruh I didn’t even know if it’s something they’re planning to do. I still don’t. Not a criticism of the developers lol

Makes sense just wanted to see if it’s something being considered

from what I’ve seen almost anything federal is grossly disproportionate to the actual crime/what you’d get for a state level offense. I think federal prosecutors usually use discretion but if they really choose to screw you they can in a way that’s actually pretty grotesque. I’m hoping that after a few rounds of the parties lobbing BS back and forth there’s some type of reform

…on a thread. I liked that feature from DDO and DART where I could see who made the most recent post and when. Sorry if this has already been discussed

I used to love dogs and I still like spending time with them if they’re well behaved but I f****** hate modern dog culture. The furbaby thing thing is extremely real and it’s caused dog behavior to get totally out of control. Idk I mean I am a softy with my dog so I’m probably part of the problem too. But as a kid I really do not remember stuff like the dogs stealing food from people, or the dogs demanding attention to the point that they bark so much that the people struggle to talk. Or the dog having to come along on a social visit at all. Behaviors I see ALL THE TIME now to the point that I just don’t even want to be around them.

There’s also been an increase in pit bull and pit mixes which living in a nice suburban area I honestly view as the greatest danger to my kids because people who are clearly not prepared to handle those dogs adopt them all the time. I’ve personally been chased away from the local park by a snarling pitbull that got loose, growling at me and baring its teeth for the crime of walking. No collar of course and no owner in site. I’m not really a gun person but I’ve seriously considered carrying solely because I think these disgusting animals are a legitimate threat and they’re only increasing in number

Culture war is definitely brain rot that makes both sides look bad but I’m not sure that people who matter were mad about the Sweeney commercial. I didn’t see Gavin Newsom or someone seething about it. I could be wrong.

meanwhile POTUS stating that Epstein was a “hoax” was definitely a bad look especially when they were known to be associates. I don’t actually think Trump is a pedophile (his type seems pretty clearly trashy middle aged women, not jail bait) but it was certainly a “bad look”