Thoth

Amber Endgame

Thoth · 5 months ago

Whatever helps you sleep at night lol
at night

Someone has forgotten all the whining about my schedule

Thoth

Amber Endgame

Thoth · 5 months ago

The blackmail "you can't say you were blackmailed" rule is also another one of those rules that's basically unenforceable. This is part of why being a lawmaker is actually a hard ass job.

Are we out here pretending that we don't pirate movies and have read and agreed to the terms and conditions?


Thoth

Amber Endgame

Thoth · 5 months ago

If Thoth hadn’t replaced out, which allowing that was bastard, he would have been the lynch for sure

It's so unspeakably bastard that I was sick and wanted someone who would be more active in my spot

Thoth

Amber Endgame

Thoth · 5 months ago

I dunno why people were so opposed to a massclaim. I thought I was farming towncred by proposing it since I figured town would do it anyway.

Thoth
Few questions, if you would.
Why claim to be unrecruitable?

It fit with Sung Jin-Ah not being a Hunter, and I was trying to at least WIFOM it as something Mafia would not claim because they would want to be recruited. I was banking on neither of the guild leaders willing to use their recruit to test it, or, at least, buying me until tomorrow and letting me scout their guild chat if they did.

Were you given Jinwoo's sister as a fake claim?

Yes. Our fake-claims were Sung Jinah, Go Gunhee, and Sung Il-Hwan. Mikal didn't give us roles initially, but gave me Nurse because, according to him, he made a change while designing the setup and forgot to compensate with a better fake-claim.

Why the fake Jinwoo POE?

It seemed like a way to semi-verify my role if I was right. I was surprised that nobody bought my explanation that I had a Dreamer PoE because it would be too powerful to start knowing a third-party, but I was surprised that people were sussing my claim at all. Maybe I tried to do too much with it and would have been better off sticking to KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid).

Why put the people in it that you did? Alyssa, Rex, Helz?

I was reasonably confident in my gutread that Helz was most likely Jinwoo, and that it was probably Rex if not Helz. Also, I had said earlier that I had strong reason to believe that Helz was town, since I was already pretty sure he was Jinwoo and I was planning that I would, if needed, claim some ability that gave me information about who Jinwoo was. I added Alyssa because, by speculating that she might have a 'symmetrical' ability which gave her information that pointed to me being innocent, I hoped that I could justify my U-turn on her, since it was before it was implied that Jinwoo had turned into a winsteal.

Thoth

Yeah, my scumslip lost us this game. Props to Mestari for catching it. I remembered Mag1c saying that Mestari was a fearkill target and misremembered him saying it in the Debatecraft server. I came up with the retarded Helz/Mestari mixup explanation because I was afraid that Mikal, DDO old head or not, might not have played at the same time as Mestari, and I wanted to get an explanation out ASAP when Mikal was offline. I should have assumed Mikal had at least heard of Mestari and said I asked him before the game.


Oh, btw, I knew from reading old games that Mikal doesn't post alignment flips until the next day. That's the power of archive binging.

Thoth

Current Games:

Mikal - Solo Leveling


Sign-ups:

Magoroth - Corwin of Amber


In the Hopper:

whiteflame - Frieren Mafia

Pie - TBD

Lunatic

REF - Candace Owens Expanded Universe

Kohai

Thoth - Blood on the Clocktower


On Hold:

AnonymousIcon

Wylted - Lulsec

Mag1cman

Thoth

I hope this won't get me punished for deadposting, but, on the topic of AI-generated images, I spent a while with Grok the other night making myself a new profile picture, only to realize that it looks terrible when shrunk to the size of profile pics on this site, even if I cropped out everything but Genghis in the center. At least you can appreciate it in its full glory here.

Thoth
If Thoth were here he'd probably make some quip about this

Alas, Thoth is not here because his name was written in the Death Note

Thoth

Whiteflame usually posts balanced reads that look at all angles of an issue. Here he was just trying to turbolynch me and refused to listen to my responses. I don’t know if that’s typical for Casey, but for WF it’s a sign of demonic possession.

Thoth
So accepting that you are not lying what is the conclusion of your flavor knowledge

That you, Alyssa, or Rex are Jinwoo

Who should be focused on

whiteflame

and do you think anyone else in the game will also have some flavor knowledge?

No idea, though I suspect that Jinwoo knew about my ability

But if you are town help me understand what I should do with this knowledge and what to think about it to help your win con if you trust I am town.

Turbolynch whiteflame

Thoth

At first, I thought my ability existed to narrow down townies so I could trust Jinwoo once I found him.


After people suggested that Jinwoo could be the new 3P, I realized that my ability was probably meant to punish Jinwoo if he turned 3P.


I suspect that Jinwoo knew about my ability and that this was intended to balance the option of him going solo.

Thoth

I don’t know what you mean by flavor being AI. You mean in general? Yes, there are usually theme splits in games on here, where at least the scum team share flavor.


I connected Jinwoo to being evil or neutral, specifically the 3P that Mikal implied existed, because other people said so.



All our role cards are probably AI, but in a different sense of AI.

Thoth
What is your end insulation tough?

Yes, when I had my house built, I paid top dollar for a very well respected insulator.

That one of us three is evil or neutral or what?

One of you is neutral, the other two could be any alignment. That's from my role. I don't especially lean one way or the other on any of you, but I would solidly townread you if I knew that you were not Jinwoo.

Why does the flavor matter to begin with?

Because that's how my ability works? Helz out here hammering people without reading their claims first.

Thoth
Im a little confused. You listed Alyssa as 30% chance of being Jinwoo and you made some big deal about who that was earlier. Can you explain your thought process?

There's not much information that points me towards anyone in my PoE. You seem behaviorally townie, Alyssa is beyond my reading comprehension, and Rex hasn't exactly been inactive, but we could have done with a higher word count from him. I'd pick Rex from those three, but that implies that Luna disagrees since Rex is his guild recruit.

Thoth
Curious about these as well, considering you spent a considerable amount of time saying alyssa was sus for defending you.

I did, and I later came around to the view that what she said made even less sense as a pocket attempt or redirection to a mislynch target than it did as misguided town. I'd rank those three in towniness as Mag1c > Mestari > Alyssa.

Thoth
Can you expand on the 3p thing? You talked about how Alyssa Rex and myself were in some kinda pool. Can you give more details to how that works and what you think about it?

I started the game with a list of 3 players (Alyssa, Helz, Rex) and was told that one of them was Jinwoo. Mikal said that anyone could show up in the list except for me and guild leaders. None of them stand out as super likely, but if I had to put numbers on it, I'd say 50% Rex, 30% Alyssa, 20% you.