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Hmmmm. Well that’s an interesting claim from Banana. Sorry I went awol but plan on making a lot of posts coming up

Driving back now

Sorry was out of town on Saturday. Gonna get some thoughts in before the Super Bowl

I think Mago is solid town

Very feasible and tbh it might be what happened but I am not sure. It could be the only way to go about this. I was originally thinking mafia can counter favor by removing favor but now I don't know. Either way now that opens the door.

I did not give someone more than 2 favor points

Now Shining outting Mago's role is interesting. On one hand, you can't deny that's Mago's role. I also think if Shining is actually scum, why would he just plainly out that Mago is confirmed by his role and not just keep that info to himself. Mago was so clearly the lynch today if it were not for that and he openly outted that info to deter the lynch. The only counter is that he's confirming Mago and they are hard bussing but that is such a stretch to me and tbh, very fucking ballsy.

But in a game where giving credibility and manipulating for favor is the name of the game, why not take that risk as scum?

So the issue now I have with this is that Wylted claimed he lied about seeing who visited him and stole his karma which he even admitted to doing. We also have a confirmation that Magoroth's role by Shining himself. Considering that the gambit was on Mago and Shining outted the results, I have reasons to believe Mago is town. Granted, I do think he's still scummy, you can't deny he has a lot working for him mechanically. I think the only way I jusitfy some type of Mago scum is if Shining and him did a gambit where they confirmed each other, which is possible but don't know if I could see it.

I also had a gut feeling Mago was town because to be honest, I just don't buy that someone who has even the most basic knowledge of a claim fucked up SO BADLY by claiming his actual mafia role and then switching it. He would be way more scummier if he claimed an actual role. So yes, I really just can't see a world in which he is scum based on this.

Need to re-evaulate my reads after the reveals and Shining's result

I think you are thinking too short sighted and OMGUS’y.

I buy the claim of his favor being taken away because balance wise mafia probably take favor and myself give favor. My question is how does he know that it was Mago solely because of a message where it is anonymous how your favor increases

On top of that, actions process simultaneously, so he got less powerful by losing favor

This makes a lot more sense as it would counter my giving of favor. So you could take 2 but I could give 2.

Couple of things

1) Mod confirmed that you can only see your favor increase or decrease and you can’t see who did it

2) This means there are 3 options

1a) Wylted is bullshitting

1b) Magoroth got framed

1c) I gave Wylted 1 favor last night and his miller also gave him the ability to see who adjusted his favor. But he would’ve saw me give favor

Ok this is interesting and you didn’t get any other notification besides that ??

Did you have favor in the first place?

This is interesting. I am curious to hear more when you out it

Did you get a notification that favor was taken ?

What happened specifically?? Did you get different roles??

why specifically 24hrs??? Why don’t you say now and then here a defense

Also fyi me giving favor does not count as a visit according to mod

I know that’s why I outted that I gave him favor

alright I have some thoughts and reads but I will say I gave 1 favor to Mikal. I just felt his reactions and reads played as town because I think if he were scum he would’ve pushed harder for a lynch on someone in that DP. He also evenly distributed his thoughts to everyone and think he handled the Magorath fiasco well

I have some thoughts, but at the gym

Thoth is also advocating the same thing because his role is just as powerful. What makes the posts so different in your opinion?

I still believe that giving out some form of reads is bad for the game. I’d rather keep the town guessing but reading the DP and other posts have given some clarity and imo I think I have one person that I am confident in giving favor too at this point. I told REF (just so he knows I’m not bullshitting) but a lot of good analysis so far. Taking note of a few players as well

Is it in your justification or your role mechanic. Don't want to push it too much but curious as to why

I’ve done a bit of reading and right now there’s 1 person I am giving favor too right now without a doubt based on their behavior and interactions as a whole

I think the best method of attack is to not over reveal anything. So I don’t think I’m going to be as quick to jump to claims and counter because that could ultimately lead to some more manipulation. Probably going to make some commentary but not too much but I am keeping up and reading analysis

So I’ve been reading and keeping up to a degree. It’s also hard to say what my meta should be because of the persuasion and stuff within the game, so being an open book might be a detriment

Just like a good and righteous Emperor, I will be taking bribes for favor. Venmo 100 dollars will get you unlimited favor from me. I just payed for a vacation so any donations welcome

On a serious note. This will be interesting

/in

My MVP is Wryly for hammering and causing the curse of bears losing when this mafia game was going to end