Vader

HCBM Mafia DP4

Vader · 10 months ago

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/endgames/posts/2d/heartbreaking-chicago-bears-moments-mafia-endgame


Endgame up

Vader

NP Actions


NP1

Shining - Tailors REF

Whiteflame - NK Pie

Whiteflame - Lawyer Shining

Wryly - Cop Pie

Pie - Track WF

Magoroth - Uses Sensor


NP2

Wryly - Cop Mag1c

whiteflame - NK Kohai

whiteflame - Rolecop Wryly

whiteflame - Escort Wryly to Mag1c


NP3

whiteflame - lawyers himself

whiteflame - NK Thoth

Wryly - Cop whiteflame

Vader

Magorath- You are the Double Doink - In the NFC Wild Card Game in 2019, Cody Parkey missed a game winning kick from 43 yards by hitting it off the left and right crossbar. This was something you were known for doing a lot this season. You are 1x Sensor. Once per night you may see how many mafia were on the lynch


Pie- You are BJ Raji’s Pick Six - In the NFC Championship Game in 2010, after Jay Cutler got hurt, Caleb Henne came in and threw a pick six to the fattest defensive linemen on the team, sealing the win for the Packers to go to the Super Bowl. You are the Tracker. Each night you may choose someone to follow


Rex- You are Randall Cobb’s Week 16 Touchdown - In 2013, Randall Cobb scored a 48 yard touchdown pass after a blown coverage by Chris Conte, thus eliminating the Bears from the playoffs and costing them the NFC North. You are the Roleblocker. Each night you may choose someone to prevent their actions from going through


Kohai- You are Matt Eberflus’ Thanksgiving Clock Management - In 2024, Matt Eberflus decided to not take a timeout with 42 seconds left down 3 at Detroit’s 48, thus causing time to run down and costing the Bears the game. This call was so bad, and so many people called for Eberflus to be fired, that the Bears fired a coach in the midseason for the first time in 100 years. You are Hated. It takes one less vote to lynch you.


Thoth - You are Cassius Marsh’s Taunting Call - In 2021, while up by 2 versus the Steelers, a controversial taunting call that caused the Steelers to get within field goal range with 10 seconds left, thus causing the Bears to lose. You are the 1x Governor. Once after the day phase you may choose to overturn a lynch.


Wryly - You are drafting Mitch Trubisky over Patrick Mahomes - In 2017, the Chicago Bears believed that Mitch Trubisky was a better quarterback and chose him over Patrick Mahomes. You are Cop. Each night you may choose someone to see if they are innocent or guilty


Magic - You are choking a lead to the 0-3 Broncos that just lost 70-20 to the Dolphins - After being up 28-7 in the 4th quarter, you blew that lead to a Russell Wilson team that let the Miami Dolphins score 70 on them the previous week. You are Vanilla. You have no abilities. 

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Whiteflame- You are Johnny Knox’s brutal back injury. In 2011, while facing the Seahawks, you folded in half and ended your career - You are the JOAT. You have the following abilities

Framer

Lawyer

Escort


Shining -You are Zach Miller’s horrible ankle injury. In 2017, while making a catch against the Saints, you destroyed your ankle and had to retire from the NFL. The worst part about that is that the catch didn’t count. You are the JOAT. You have the follow abilities

Ninja

Role Cop

1x Tailor


Vader

MAFIA WIN


This game was super interesting and I actually think it turned out better than what I had expected it to be. Whiteflame and Shining made a pretty good team and worked really well. Clean victory from them despite the mistake I made, which, yes, I did make a mistake.


When Thoth submitted his actions to me, his first initial choice was to change the vote to Mag1c if the lynching was on him. This is what I assumed until he changed it in the early hours of the night to ANY lynch. I didn't pay enough attention and didn't register the action, and just thought he was confirming his original actions. It ended up helping the town more than it hurt them. To compensate for this mishap on the scum's part, I allowed them to get a rolecop that would have been used that NP if I properly registered the lynch.


Overall, this game had some big mishaps from town perspective. The purpose of the governor and hated was for them to confirm each other while also picking a target for Governor to use. It's optimal to use that, but it was severely mismanaged on that end. Other than that I just think mafia made the right moves and I think the way I set up the game made it so that skepticism builds within the town caused people to mislook at reads.


Overall, I think this game had an interesting balance setup. I purposefully made 3 investigative roles because there was no true healing role. With the tailor role played into it as well, it could have been easily used to give the mafia an advantage and raise skepticism. I do think that if the Governor was used with Hated, it could've been a very unbalanced setup, even a bastard. But I do think this was swingy. Scum had access to all counters besides the Sensor, which was only 1x and could not be manipulated by any actions.


Thanks for playing.

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP4

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Magoroth (2/2) - Whiteflame, Wryly

Whiteflame (1/2) - Magoroth


Magoroth was lynched

He was innocent


At the gym so can’t post endgame. Will leave the DP up for now

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP4

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Magoroth (1/2) - Whiteflame

Whiteflame (1/2) - Magoroth


NOTE: if the DP ends and I am not around, this DP will remain open until I post endgame


34 hours remain

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP4

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Magoroth (1/2) - Whiteflame

Whiteflame (1/2) - Magoroth


NOTE: if the DP ends and I am not around, this DP will remain open until I post endgame


Vader

HCBM Mafia DP4

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Magoroth (1/5) - Whiteflame


NOTE: if the DP ends and I am not around, this DP will remain open until I post endgame

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP4

Vader · 10 months ago


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Graveyard

Rex- You are Aaron Rodger’s 2nd half comeback down 21. In 2018, after being up 21 with a Khalil Mack Pick Six, you choke a 21 point lead after Rodgers comes back from an injury that he suffered in the 2nd quarter. You are the Bleeder. You survive lethal night kills and will die the following night.

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Pie- You are BJ Raji’s Pick Six - In the NFC Championship Game in 2010, after Jay Cutler got hurt, Caleb Henne came in and threw a pick six to the fattest defensive linemen on the team, sealing the win for the Packers to go to the Super Bowl. You are the Tracker. Each night you may choose someone to follow

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Shining - Shining -You are Zach Miller’s horrible ankle injury. In 2017, while making a catch against the Saints, you destroyed your ankle and had to retire from the NFL. The worst part about that is that the catch didn’t count. You are the JOAT. You have the follow abilities

Ninja

Role Cop

1x Tailor

AFFILIATION: MAFIA


Kohai- You are Matt Eberflus’ Thanksgiving Clock Management - In 2024, Matt Eberflus decided to not take a timeout with 42 seconds left down 3 at Detroit’s 48, thus causing time to run down and costing the Bears the game. This call was so bad, and so many people called for Eberflus to be fired, that the Bears fired a coach in the midseason for the first time in 100 years. You are Hated. It takes one less vote to lynch you.

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Magic - You are choking a lead to the 0-3 Broncos that just lost 70-20 to the Dolphins - After being up 28-7 in the 4th quarter, you blew that lead to a Russell Wilson team that let the Miami Dolphins score 70 on them the previous week. You are Vanilla. You have no abilities. 

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Thoth - You are Cassius Marsh’s Taunting Call - In 2021, while up by 2 versus the Steelers, a controversial taunting call that caused the Steelers to get within field goal range with 10 seconds left, thus causing the Bears to lose. You are the 1x Governor. Once after the day phase you may choose to overturn a lynch.

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Players

  1. Magoroth
  2. Wryly
  3. Whiteflame


With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

You have until Jan 10th, 8:15pm CST

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP3

Vader · 10 months ago

Official Vote Count


Mag1cman (3/3) - Thoth, Wryly, Whiteflame

Whiteflame (1/3) - Mago


Mag1c was lynched. He was innocent. Submit night actions by 12:45pm CST tomorrow

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP3

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Magoroth (1/3) - Mag1c

Mag1c (1/3) - Magoroth


7 and 1/2 hours remain

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP3

Vader · 10 months ago

Note that my work has started back up this week so probably won’t be responding to messages as frequently during the day and probably not at all after like 10pm cst

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP3

Vader · 10 months ago

Graveyard

Rex- You are Aaron Rodger’s 2nd half comeback down 21. In 2018, after being up 21 with a Khalil Mack Pick Six, you choke a 21 point lead after Rodgers comes back from an injury that he suffered in the 2nd quarter. You are the Bleeder. You survive lethal night kills and will die the following night.

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Pie- You are BJ Raji’s Pick Six - In the NFC Championship Game in 2010, after Jay Cutler got hurt, Caleb Henne came in and threw a pick six to the fattest defensive linemen on the team, sealing the win for the Packers to go to the Super Bowl. You are the Tracker. Each night you may choose someone to follow

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Shining - Shining -You are Zach Miller’s horrible ankle injury. In 2017, while making a catch against the Saints, you destroyed your ankle and had to retire from the NFL. The worst part about that is that the catch didn’t count. You are the JOAT. You have the follow abilities

Ninja

Role Cop

1x Tailor

AFFILIATION: MAFIA


Kohai- You are Matt Eberflus’ Thanksgiving Clock Management - In 2024, Matt Eberflus decided to not take a timeout with 42 seconds left down 3 at Detroit’s 48, thus causing time to run down and costing the Bears the game. This call was so bad, and so many people called for Eberflus to be fired, that the Bears fired a coach in the midseason for the first time in 100 years. You are Hated. It takes one less vote to lynch you.

AFFILIATION: TOWN


Alive

  1. Thoth
  2. Wryly
  3. Mag1cman
  4. whiteflame
  5. Magoroth


With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

You have until January 7th, 12:30pm CST to choose who to lynch

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

Official Vote Count


Shining (4/4) - Wryly, Kohai, Whiteflame, Magoroth

Mag1cman (1/4) - Thoth

VTNL (1/4) - Shining

Magorath (1/4) - Magicman


Shining was lynched. They were … guilty


Submit night actions by 12:30 PM CST on 1/4/26

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

You can not verbatim say what your PM says. You can summarize to the best of your ability. This is listed in the original post for this game

Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Thoth (1/4) - Shining

Mag1cman (2/4) - Thoth, Magoroth


Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Thoth (2/4) - Magicman, Shining

Mag1cman (2/4) - Thoth, Magoroth


Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Thoth (2/4) - Magicman, Shining

Mag1cman (1/4) - Thoth


Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count

Thoth (2/4) - Magicman, Shining

Whiteflame (1/4) - Thoth



Vader

HCBM Mafia DP2

Vader · 10 months ago

Vote Count


(sidenote) I will be out for most of the day today and tomorrow. So, vote counts will be late. If anyone wants to step in and do unofficial vote counts, please do so.