Vader

Actually swap Ceru with yourself. Both of you are about even in my eyes of scumminess

I literally did the same thing in a similiar game once as scum in a mafia game. I literally claimed Ken Jeong as Doctor because I asked if a Doctor was in the game and Luna said no because that was setup. This point is inherently null and it's still a RB. It's also such an easy fake claim.

Shining

Rex

gap

Ceru

Rather I was thinking from a more intricate scum

IMO Wryly has only played like 5-10 games so far. Still wouldn’t call it experienced (no offense). However, I do think they have a base understanding of how to play where any scummy behaviors I would not consider “noob”

Go read back. I preferred Ceru until the last minute basically, but we simply just didn’t have the votes

The problem is you are giving credit to Rex for the same logic that Kohai gave and still voted Kohai. I think this is just a disagreement of philosophy, but no lynch > mislynch. Obviously we know Kohai wasn’t confirmable but if you wanted to lynch him today after that over Ceru, I would’ve been way more understanding and town read you. It’s kind of contradictory

No I disagree his makes a lot of sense to be honest…

Logging off for the night. Anything drastic let me know

We have til Thursday anyway, but do note I’m probably not gonna be around Thursday evening due to a holiday party

Might look the DP over to see if I feel like changing the reads. Might do a bigger dive into Thoth cuz I don’t like my null on him but we will see

Anyway, unless anything super drastic happens that throws a literal loop in the game. Not sure if I’m gonna move my vote. I’ll check the DP in n out of meeting tomorrow before but can’t guarantee full activirt

I think I’m leaning toward Shining over Rex at this point

VTL SHINING

Alright I have a few reads I want to get out there. I think my town list comes down to one personal at the moment is Wryly

Lean Town

Wryly

I think that they have actively tried to move this game in a positive direction with their thoughts and activities, as much as they can for a player with limited experience. I think their contributions have been enough. As a new player, I remember when I was first scum I didn’t want to talk too much and was careful with posting. Don’t think wryly is doing that

Null

Thoth - not enough behaviorally to go off of

FoS

iLikePie- I think no matter you have to put Pie in the FOS. I understand his logic for voting Kohai in that situation but I also know that quick lynching after proclaiming “Kohai” always seems scummy and pivot off your pivot target is a red flag. On the other hand, as scum I don’t think he actively tries to push the game as much as does with reads. I also just think him jumping so easily on that wagon isn’t how he would go about that as scum. He’d be way more calculated

Ceru - I honestly could just be overthinking this, but it’s known he has experience and even after rereading DP1, I get his points in this DP but it still doesn’t come off right. Why, even in that position, do you not just claim what your role is??? I just don’t understand the logic there. The logic is that the question he asked to WF was if a cop was in and the answer was yes, so he didn’t want to out a miller. But even then, the miller would have CC’d that by the time he switched to Gravedigger. It’s just not adding up but if I read into it I think I overthought it

Lean Scum

Shining - don’t love the claim to be honest. Thought I could rule it off to him being lazy but he’d do the same lazy thing as scum too. I also think it’s an easy cover for a RB. his justification also reads WAYYYY too much like a Role Cop or some Lawyer role

Rex - this is tough but sometimes Rex as scum does obviously scummy things to make yourself overthink things. Lack of activity and a quick vote with limited input in the game (ironic from me), but to jump in a lynch without any justification is so weird

so I’m fine with either 4 at this point

Ceru is just holding me up again, and it is annoying because I hated how he started off as "sarcasm" about a more utility miller, then he pivots to it being a Gravedigger, which is a complete 180 from how he described it. He has experience on other sites so I feel like he would know that there is a major difference.

But again, I got held up last time being nit picky and I ended up being wrong, so who knows.

I also have a slight town read on Wryly. I think them trying to push for activity and get the flow going in this DP is pretty indicative of town play because it requires active thought to try and coordinate. I think that I am also in agreement that scum would have likely taken a back seat until the time was right to get a vote off, and this is what I saw in Shining and Rex. I just think the logic is townish and I also don't think they are throwing that out there to throw it out

3/4 ignore what I said. I still find it weird that there is probably no counter to a dreamer in this game besides killing them. Gravedigger is an SOP, but I also hate how it was claimed and I think it is more likely than not the question was asked if they had a cop in the game, WF told them no, and he pivoted. Would have to ask about Dreamer mechanics with that but I feel like I'm wrong and my reaction was gut

Still don't really love his claim

I obviously think that the last second Kohai vote was inherently scummy and should be FoS'd, but I also do feel like Pie is a bit more calculated as mafia. I don't he makes it as blatantly obvious that he is hopping on a mislynch as scum unless he has legitamate reason, and that is the big IF imo. Was his reason valid enough. I'll have to take a reread for sure.

I obviously think that the last second Kohai vote was inherently scummy and should be FoS'd, but I also do feel like Pie is a bit more calculated as mafia. I don't he makes it as blatantly obvious that he is hopping on a mislynch as scum unless he has legitamate reason, and that is the big IF imo. Was his reason valid enough. I'll have to take a reread for sure.

Actually I need to rethink Pie. Driving now but will explain later

I have some more thoughts, but this is me gut reading and catching up from the last DP. I’ll sit down and go character by character

Ok I’ve read the DP. I am kinda giving Shining a pass because they’re known lazy town and probably wanted to get off a mislynch, but I’m also hard pressing Pie and Rex. Rex made like 2 posts and then at the last second drops a vote. Pie was a hard push on Ceru the entire time and then even after Kohai says they can be confirmed, he changes his vote

Need claims from either one of them

Wtf lmao. Rex, Shining, and Pie are all on my scum list. Last 30 minutes all 3 of them make a vote.

The Dreamer flip also makes 0 sense if a Gravedigger is in the game and Ceru is telling the truth

What’s Ceru’s experience playing mafia? Because there claim is literally not anything close to a miller as they suggested. Don’t understand why they claimed that and then back tracked right away to that

Finishing up my workout. Rereading the last when I shower and get home

Hmmm that does actually kinda make Ceru look bad based on the flip. Will catch up with DP1 tn

Ceru should not be a hard town read at this point. I’m only town reading him if a few things happen in this game but there’s no reason he’s town just for following town protocol

Page 2 is a big nothing burger

I don’t love that sarcastic useful but I read too much into last game and I don’t want to be burned by something similiar last game and don’t wanna have it happen again

I guess I just take things too practical