Vader

To be clear I still think he was the best lynch due to his activity but I’m not shocked if he turns town

Ehh that claim is a bit weird. If I’m scum I wouldn’t have said that it is called “Lookout” in my PM. Would’ve just lied and said im a watcher. Makes me think hes just nooby

Don’t know what word limit mechanic Mikal has but not ruling him out as scum. Speedrace used to do the same thing back then to win so he could be faking it

I’m fine with shining

VTL Shining

especially since he was the first to reveal it

Tbh I am kind of town locking Pie. He had the same reaction to me when he got his role and I know he knew nothing about the theme. Might be a bit presumptive but feel like scum would know they have the same character and know that and not make a fake claim, or hell even someone on his scum team would know that he plays all his character so it’s not a CC. Feels town lock that this was his first reaction unless it’s fabricated

Well actually it looks like you can huh

In a scenario where you can’t VTNL either. We know there’s some kind of anti word mechanic but we don’t know the trigger. Everyone is the same character. Tough to really say at this point.

It looks like WF is town but honestly that’s not a given at this point due to the characters being the same

So we can’t say a certain B word. Tbh I’m down to just say it to confirm it for town so that way they don’t make the same mistake

Ok now we can’t vtnl. Interesting

I also had no clue this started and I was even in the game so yeah apologies. We need to conserve as much time as possible so we can be 100% certain come time to actual lunch someone

Ok so we already got a guilty. Think there’s no need to pursue more info

VTNL

Ok so they just died??? There’s gotta be something more than just that

Ahh didn’t know that tbh. Oh well I got to page 1 and saw someone claimed as me. Know 0 about the theme

Don’t know if that’s important but idk

The reason behind me being vanilla is because I have white skin

VTL Whiteflame

CCing this. I am Ryan George, and I am a vanilla

Hi everyone. Thought I was listed as a backup for this game and didn’t get a discord notification for the game to start. Sorry about that

/backup

To be fair to myself and also then to discredit myselt

I did calm down this time and then when I did calm down I was almost certain Wylted was second scum

Not sure when Rex will post flips but right now my scum POE is between

Wylted

WF

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Wryly

obviously Pie is Thoth flips innocent. Not sure why we are town reading Wryly, did I miss something or is this behavior

This argument I can fully see. There being 4 protective should obviously draw flags but I’m not sure either to be honest. The only true protective roles are you and I. Purely protective. Mikal is a JOAT that had a protective role unless all of his roles are protective. Wylted is a 1x poisoner so there’s 1/2 of one, and Thoth. Even then, Thoth and Pie have an actual CC. So that takes out one of the claimed. Then it’s 2 real protective, Mikal’s JOAT, and Wylted.

You’re a claimed JOAT with a 1x JK. Unless all your JOAT trait are protective that’s not really a healing IMO. And even that 3 protective is still not a CC because they are each different mechanically. Not a CC

I also hate how Mikal is still saying that a Doc and a BG is a CC. Sorry I still think that is not a CC in a 13 person game where they have 2 different mechanics. TBH I am questioning Mikal here because I just feel he has a strong enough presence in this game where he’s going to command game and maybe force a couple of votes to go that way. Very little is known about the theme from most people and he’s the only one with commanding knowledge. I feel like he’s got to be town but I have a funny feeling because there’s no way that you play with Pie so much that you think he’s CC’ing an Aethestic role when he had my mislynch literally right there

So what’s Pie’s incentive to CC’ing that claim then if he’s scum. The most he’s going to do is survive one extra DP and die. That literally does nothing. Thoth’s claim is weird but it’s not crazy.

the entire interaction doesn’t sit well with me. Thoth claimed aestic way earlier and pie didn’t cc him. It took me asking him was he aesetic for a cc.

Thoth didn’t even soft anything here. All I got was he found out that Mikal was the intended NK. No way is that a CC, even then if you are talking about the 20 posts before he voted him right away after the post. Pretty common Pie reaction

Also Pie as scum is not taking risky behavior mechanics to try and stir town. It’s usually calculated NP risks if that. Sorry just not buying it at this point. If he’s scum and Thoth is telling the truth he had no reason to go after Thoth there when my mislynch was literally opening up there. Just don’t buy that he is scum

Even if you think it’s an awkward CC I really just don’t buy that Pie is doing a fake CC at that point. Even if your most optimal game possible that’s so scum sided it’s a 6-4 at best. He’s getting lynched no matter what. I know this may be Pie’s WIFOM but there’s no reason for him to do that. I think we are fine doing a 1v1 so I think if momentum changes but there’s no reason for him to CC when my mislynch provided him a major opportunity to pounce on that

Going to bed. Will check wee hours in the morning before work but then I have a long day of inventory yearly and meetings so wont be active during the day besides maybe lunch

Yep this is 100% Thoth mechanically speaking. Not moving my vote off him. If he’s scum we need to pressure tf out of Wylted IMO