Vader

Even 10-2-1, you go 9-2 into NP1, recruit it’s 8-3. Mislynch dp2 it’s 7-3. Kill and recruit if they have a 2x recruit it’s a 6-4. There’s no benefit to Pie doing a fake CC at that point when you had a viable mislynch of me or Luna right there if either or is the case

Vader

There’s also no reason for Pie to hard CC there unless he knows they won the game. Even the most unoptimal town scenario at 9-3-1, 8-3 going into NP1, assuming they recruited and killed Shining as town it’s 7-4, going into the NP2 it’s 6-4 if you mislynch. Only game breaking mechanic is a double kill to end so that doesn’t work. There’s no incentive for Pie to CC at all. I don’t think they get unlimited recruits either

Vader

Then again WF could easily be scum and his claim is just the scum claiming a scuffed Strengthener since that technically counters my BG depending how Ref sees that role


Day Vig gets countered by BG that has DP BG effects too


Doctor counters the Strengthener that the mafia have.


Balance wise I don’t see a major issue here. This would highly implicate WF thougj

Vader

Depending on the response WF gives me from that question I asked to him, my POE is narrowed and fmpov the game is solved

Vader

I really just can’t see a world where it’s not Thoth and Wylted right now. The only caveat to this if Mikal is big brain manipulation is but I just feel he’s too theme invested to even try to manipulate town to such a degree where it is impossible for them to win this game

Vader

Still don’t understand the back and forth at the moment. We have a Hard CC with Thoth and Pie together that might potentially end game if we aren’t careful. I get that sometimes we have to focus on others but to pivot focus to a whole different topic right now is going to do nothing


I don’t like WF claim by any means but I do think it makes sense based on my role and such


@Whiteflame can you ask what your role would go if your role hit a BG

Vader

I don’t think that a bodyguard is a CC to a Doctor in a 13 person game. I also softed my claim in DP1 so tbh no I don’t think it’s a CC because. At most it’s a sus Poe because of the investigative

Vader

So if it wasn’t random, and you chose for Pie to target Shining, 1. Why is your vote not on him? And 2. Why didn’t you state this and claim this DP2? Seems desperate. Calling me stupid when if you are town you genuinely are gonna throw this game

Vader

Wylted is also scummy as fuck. He was one of the first to buddy Thoth in the first place and he tends to do that. He also has a weird role that does not make sense at all and claimed to visit Shining. Wylted sucks at claiming and is arguable the worst at doing so. Feels like this is something that he would make up. He also follows the same pattern of personally insulting someone in a game about targetting the wrong person and jumps to that conclusion right away. When I was at the hottest he instantly jumped without ever thinking about it. Now he's backtracking against Thoth despite his behavior being much worse. I think Wylted is scum and probably got a fake char and claimed some bullshit

Vader

I just lost 100 words of response, but 1. Thoth sat on this information until it was the most convenient to him to claim it. He also baited people into answering his question, and then called me stupid for literally answering his question. He purposelly did not give context to what he said to try and bait town into falling for his trap. 2. Even if you think he's lying, what is the difference between his claim and mine that makes mine so damning lol. He's essentially claiming a wacky RNG redirector from what I'm getting and doesn't even have any info to go off that alone. I have never seen a Leprachaun thing. 3. How does he know Mikal was even the target in the first place if it was random? If he claims it was not, why didn't he claim that when he first got his justification. Even then if you look at balance, in a 13 person, there is more likely than not a Doc and a BG. His role seems like he's faking a redirector

Vader

Also still driving but needed to get that off. Have full thoughts when I’m out of traffic

Vader

Wylted is also only one to blindly defend Thoth and then set me up. His VTL post feels like a setup. Still driving but Wylted’s claim is less believable mechanically than a doc bg

Vader

Ok I half calmed down but let me get my thoughts together when I’m Thoth but he’s 100% lying

Vader

Just lynch me and have the flip. Scum is Luna and Thoth. I’ll die to solve the game

Vader

Nah I’m pretty much done lol tbh. It’s either I’m lynched for being too active and desperate or the one time I’m trying to make an effort to play I get pseudo CC’d as town off a bullshit Thoth claim and now being framed. Pretty annoying and really can’t stand it lol

Vader

I know but I literally hinted DP1 that I would’ve bought Whiteflame Vig because of my role and I literally just described that the BG also transfers into the DP into the next DP as well so idk if I buy ur doctor but a pseudo CC that isn’t a CC is gonna get me lynched

Vader

Yeah I’m done playing mafia on this site for awhile. I literally get mislynched for 1. Being too active and then being framed as town and then having a PM that doesn’t back it. I literally can’t defend their being a BG and Doctor besides knowing my role and the flip. Hope this scum locks but Thoth and Lunatic atp. I’m done playing mafia on here



Vader

Well there’s literally nothing I can do if my PM was wrong lol. I mean the flip will literally show BG and then you can actually lynch scum. I’m not gonna defend myself and tbh think I’m just done playing at this point

Vader

My justification literally says because of my fierce loyalty and prowess in battle. That’s all I have for it. Not much I can say then it’s the justification I was given

Vader

Well I’ll just claim them since Thoth is trying to frame me. I am Kasim, and I am a bodyguard. Last night I did protect Mikal. This is why in DP1 that I said I would’ve believed WF because my bodyguard also transfers over into theDP as well. So if he decided to use his vig on Mikal, I would’ve died

Vader

Tbh I probably have minor dyslexia too cuz I saw empire and 5 in front of my PM and thought it was the opposite lol.

Vader

He’s literally been asking these random questions without even giving us concrete info. Unless he’s some role that relies on people’s questions I buy bullshit. If he had actual results he would’ve told us. Feels like he’s trying to fluff some shit out