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Problem is it got triggered at 10…

So the popular part is true.

My guess is that they are popular scum but have an ability to have a 1x lynchproof

This is not what Alyssa claimed…

This is essentially a popular lynchproof but not sure if it’s actually lynch proof at this point.

I don’t know what to make of this. Do they get a 1x lynch proof as well as popular scum? Popular scum has 100% been done by Mikal before

Fair points to a degree. I obviously don’t want to discredit reads and activity due to inactivity because, well, I’m definetly not one to be talking. But to me I’ve seen you contribute a lot more as town before and I do tend to notice that you tend to fall back in bigger games when you are scum and noticed that a bit. Even with the burst of activity, it was more of a wading water from my perspective. I think on my list of scum I pointed out you would be second and it’s not that strong of a read to be honest. It’s not something I’d pursue unless there was mechanical information given

I think we caught Alyssa. My vote is going to stay there for a while tbh

If Alyssa is popular, how did the vote reset then? It had to have been activated somehow right…

I mean I’ve looked at his posts, it’s not like 1 liners for like 90% of it

Anyway have meetings pretty much most of the afternoon so hopefully can sneak some posts before I take off home.

Obviously a grain of salt. Pie is in busy season with work from what I assume and still gets his analysis and reads off. Pie is mostly null because he’s always scum. Whiteflame sometimes as scum falls into the line of if the activity is being engaged relatively hard and he doesn’t need to contribute, he’ll make a few comments here and there and let the others talk

I forgot about Helz in my town read

Town Read on Helz as well.

From the posts I gathered he seems to really care about the logic and putting the effort in to identify factors in the game and logically solve things. I think he’s put a lot of effort and his reads have been consistently solid. His posts tend to be long paragraphs of analysis rather than short bursts of posts and that feels super townie in a dense game like this.

I’m watching Pie and Rex

Rex is null but literally just my gut is going off and i have no reason why but if it was a gut list id go scum but that’s unfair

Pie is never town

Right now here are my following reads at the moment. Non mentions are null or are mod confirmed

Town Read

Banana - I said why I town read Banana before but they came in with insights and caught up well. That 270 post feels so town to me for the reasons I stated before and like I said, I don’t think they’ve played in enough weird big games where anyone could be anyone without role affil so them saying an usually town role and providing other perspective feels very towny because I feel like banana as scum would likely go with the flow with the DP.

Mestari - I don’t know there behavior but they have been pretty consistently pushing back on reads and questioning the thoughts of the only confirmed town. While this seems scummy when typing, I feel like it’s important to challenge these reads because I feel like scum would just buddy off the confirmed townies

Wryly - relatively similar playstyles from what I’ve seen of them to the town. I could be totally wrong since I’ve taken long hiatus’s but they seem to be align with town behavior

Scum Reads

whiteflame - I think that he is kind of lying low. I’ve seen him do this in big games when he is scum and it’s always hard to get a good behavior out of him. It’s a few minor posts challenging a few things and then going out and not really saying much

Alyssa- I don’t know who this is, but if they are relatively now or just rage in frustration (don’t worry I do that too), I feel like them voting themselves is pretty weird behavior. They were doing it even during DP1. I like the idea suggested that it could be just a gambit to end the DP early since they were given up

I don’t like vote jumping unless it’s necessary and it’s my final read or I won’t be on to put my final vote

I really don’t have a good read on Kohai tbh. I am always just kind of traumatized lynching him because I feel like we do so many times in games and he ends up flipping but at this rate with us already getting 1 scum, we definetly can afford a mislynch versus if we lynched town last DP. Not saying we should mislynch, but mislynch wouldn’t hurt as badly as it would’ve if we hit town dp1

I kind of have a good town read on Banana. I think there perspective comes off super townie to me on 270. Banana isn’t a noob but definetly has not played in wild games like this and I feel like there claim of a “confirmable usually town role” comes off as a new player getting insight. I also think they have pretty solid reads from what I’m seeing as well. I also don’t think Banana would hard town their partner here tbh because I bet there would be pushback in the chat

I have some thoughts for sure. My top scum read was scum and I didn’t even have to get mad! Yay.

I have a full list but right I like Wryly for the most part but have some suspicions on Whiteflame but I’ll go more into it more

vtl Alyssa to check. Catching up during lunch

I am a dumbass ignore that

Alright. I think I know the reason as to why there was not a night kill but want to confirm some mechanical stuff first

Those are my two biggest reads. I think I have Mesterami as a slight town read based on their entrance to the game and such but I think it fizzled a bit but I like the approach they took. Everyone is probably a null because of behavior or always scum (Pie)

Banana gave some pretty good reads with some comprehensive reasoning behind the reads and caught up really well, honestly, probably better than me. Banana is a newer player and I feel like for newer players when they get in big games like this, they tend to lean back a bit and not really think and act. But I like banana's assertiveness in this game overall and I townread them

Right now based on some of my gut reads, I think I have a strong FoS on Thoth at the moment.

I feel like everyone is null. I am a bit worried with whiteflame because he seems to kind of chim in and go on suprts of thought then exit. Almost as if he is laying low to avoid being noticed or stand out in anyway. But this definetly ways less consider the nature of this game being a 17 person game

But he set up the soft for people to out just themselves, with the mechanics of the game with people being themselves and characters who would probably be hunters, it is not unreasonble to look onto suspicion of that claim

I am still a bit skeptical of Thoth at this point. I originally pointed out his screcity of what he was doing and trying to soft and then the hard claim right away with an unrecruitable seems weird in this. Also based on the tl;dr wryly gave me, it seems like Thoth is claiming Jin-Ah, which is someone who is never a hunter and just an ordinary person

Noted. Also as of note as well, his sister, which I’m assuming in Jin-Ah, is not a hunter at all in the story and never becomes one

Noted. I hate the idea of outside behavior being involved in a game and I don't really put any value into that but something to obviously take note of

Ok thanks for the tl;dr. I am looking for behaviors and my skimming at 1am is definetly not helping. Unrecruitable is fair but I don't necessarily see that as confirmed town, no?

Right now from what I am seeing I see 3 big options and wagons that were pushed and have consistently swayed. Wagons were on Kohai, Thoth, and Mestari.

Mestari had 6 people on the wagon including Kohai and Thoth

Mestari 6/9 - Alyssa, ILikePie5, Mestari, Kohai, wylted, Thoth

Thoth got to 6 with

Thoth 6/9 - Kohai, Mestari, Lunatic, Alyssa, Rex, Mag1c

Noticeably, Alyssa was on both of the wagons that were there. Don't know if on the kohai wagon but haven't caught enough. Pie is noticeably missing as well from this wagon.

I also don't know how scum would manipulate votes to force a mislynch in a 17 person game. It's not a do re mi game. The only true leads are Luna (who is town confirmed) having a beef with Mestari who feels like a town read, and Thoth softing himself and Kohai harding himself.

I think vote wagons could be a good way to lynch this but I also haven't analyzed behaviors and it's going to be extremely hard

I don't see the wagon that Wryly got besides wylted pushing soem posts on it but that's really it but I am still trying to catch up

WEEELPPPP I took a nap and went to the gym and I am more posts in the hole

Bit of downtime at work before I have to drive home. Doing my bathroom break then reading