Vader

I mean that's fair but he also has to win with the town as well. If we feel more confident about Shining we shouldn't lynch Rex if he's an un CC'd Cop

Vader

Tbh I forgot about the DP1 information given and had to reread a few things. I've been relatively busy at work and it's Orthodox Easter so priorities haven't been fully there. I just focused on behavior reads and mechanics

Vader

Right now my target is Shining. With the redirect and Pie town confirmation (99% sure) it is likely his lightning rod was some sort of a fake claim that was completely butchered.

Vader

POE is pretty straight forward to this point


1.Vader

2.Whiteflame

3.Kohai

4.Banana

5.iLikePie5

6.CaseyRisk

7.Shining

10.Awesome

11.Wryly

12.Helz

13.MagicMan

14. Skep



Pie, Rex, Magic (95% chance), and myself town lock



2.Whiteflame

3.Kohai

4.Banana

6.CaseyRisk

7.Shining

8.Mestari

10.Awesome

11.Wryly

12.Helz


It's essentially 9 person to this point IF you believe Rex & Pie & Mharman. We don't know what the balance is game wise but it could be 6v2v1 or 7v2 or 7v1v1 or 8v1


Then it is just based on roles and reads



Vader

Ok. Yeah unless there is a CC for the guild leader then Pie is town lock and Rex is town lock.


This just paints Shining in 100x a worst light

Vader

If you confirm yourself in THIS DP, this DP and it can be confirmed in this DP, your word of mouth would go quite a long way from my perspective.


But that's if you are confirmed based on your explanation

Vader

I'll explain it like this.


Pie's defense is that he is confirmable this DP and that is it. He has not elaborated more on this issue. I'll put this way.


If Persona A where to steal a cookie and Person B saw it, and Person B told on the police, would the police ask Person B to defend themselves, or Person A to defend themselves.


If Pie has a reasonable confirmation that can happen, I am willing to pivot. But he is just stalling and staying still because you are getting more info out of a guilded un CC'd cop is inherently scummy

Vader

Why should Pie, someone who has a guilty on them, be asking information out of anyone first without justifying WHY he is confirmable. If I am town, I am explaining how I can be confirmed with a DP action this DP asap and my reasoning.


This is just killing time

Vader

There is literally no reason for Rex to give away information first to someone who has a guilty on them even if you are confirmable this DP. If Pie was town he would've just outted what it was that makes him confirmable atp

Vader
Because I’m telling you to lynch me in the event that my explanation is not satisfactory to you lol. If I’m scum, why would I tell you this.


WIFOM

  1. You are doing this because you want to get as much info as possible and potentially get another action if you are not lynched today
Vader

I also am a bit worried about the guild mate thing he asked a question about. With both guild leaders assumingely dead, what other info can he get.


I feel a lot of people are going to be quick to defend him, but unless it legitamately 100% proves him town then I don’t think he should out of any POE

Vader

Ok. So he has something that can be confirmed in the day phase. This makes more sense why people were so willing to back him up. This makes me feel less like I’m losing my mind


If he can prove innocence this DP, yeah I’m all for it. But why does he specifically need a Rex claim

Vader

That doesn’t prove anything about Pie. He could just be saying that to buy time or if he’s scum so he can get another action in. He’s also not going to admit when he gets caught

Vader

Pie needs to be lynched. So now he wants to claim, yeah my innocence can be proven. Still catching up though so please don’t respond if he claimed

Vader

Oh wait Mikal mod confirmed what I couldn’t say ok nevermind then. I don’t think that means awesome =/= be scum but whatever

Vader

I believe Awesome actually about his role card. I can’t say why I believe him but I think he is telling the truth based on what I know. I think some people can assume what I mean by that but I kinda believe that based on how the cards were made

Vader

Basically my role can either protect from NK or I can chose to heal someone from any aliments they made have. I don’t get both

Vader

ok. Claiming now. Last night I healed Mharman / mag1c from positioning. I am a Doctor that can heal aliments.i am min byung gyu

Vader

Mestari also feels town to me based on their consistent post by post breakdown as well. I think they are taking the effort to dissect posts and come up with reads on each player based on their situation and are actively taking charge in this game with their thoughts and pushing back where they think it’s deemed necessary

Vader

My problem with that is that Thoth focus all his attention to Whiteflame versus the other players that were targeting him arguable harder. I don’t want to say it’s fabricated and I also don’t know how Thoth plays, but I wouldn’t put it past either of them to try to bus each other to build whiteflame’s cred.

Vader

Hmmm. Mharman got poisoned. Interesting. Does this mean we have a healer / doc? Does this mean doc acts as a healer, etc. Think he’s telling the truth cuz it would be a major gambit if he didn’t

Vader

Why wouldn’t you claim in full what your role is and hide your ability?


Voting yourself always looks way worse in this scenario as well

Vader

This is weird. IMO this just feels like a scum gambit to try and confirm themselves but it makes no sense to me