Wryly


Mikal wrote:
Yes any abilities that I want


So you could have chosen a commuter, a dreamer, a jailkeeper, doctor, anything? You could have chosen Big Brother from the MU list and watched everyone any night you wanted? You could have picked Mentalist and Motivator and solved this game several DPs ago? You could have chosen Berserker and killed the rest of your POE last night? You could have made yourself a Deathproof and a Lightning Rod every night?


Which powers did you use each night?

Wryly


Helz wrote:
Im a little confused on how Wryly could be WvT in the Rex situation. Its a bit of a mess.

Im also a little stuck on multiple results pointing to Rex pretty hard.

I would like to hear what Meow's result today was though. Thats critical to have before resolving the day.


MeowMix claims he took Banana's role, and she only had a 2x Lie Detector. He says he lie detected whiteflame and Rex, so he should have nothing to report.

Wryly

A few questions.


How long have you been a Dreamer? Did it unlock when you gained enough shekels or did you always have it?


Why do you get a POE of two each time? It's normally a POE of three; two narrows it down a little too much to be good balance in a game, especially with multiple visions, and especially in a game with a master universal JOAT.


Which dream did you have when?

Wryly


Mikal wrote:
Helz dreamed me and uktra and only one can be scum.
Hes confirmed

Tell me how a confirmed town is lying?


I genuinely have no idea; only scum and Lunatic know the answer to this conundrum.


But I do know that by process of elimination, if Rex is scum, I must be scum, so there really is no downside to indulging my argument that the prima facie data is misleading town.

Wryly

We of the rainbow accept all childhood cartoon furry crushes, be it Lola Bunny or Balto to give a completely random unrelated example

Wryly

Mikal says he, Pie, and whiteflame have all confirmed each other. If he's telling the truth, then I have to be scum, correct? Rex and Ultra only make 2. You know you're town. MeowMix and Rex cannot be scummates based on wagonomics.


I'm telling you that Mikal is leading town off a cliff. Lynching me first costs you nothing -- if I'm scum, you're still nailing the enemy -- but comes with the benefit of proving me right if I am town. It's all benefit, no cost.

Wryly

Grown men simp over a lot of young anime girls. I feel like for some of them it may just be a crush they've had since they were boys themselves and nostalgia keeps it going, but definitely a high potentiality for creepville there.

Wryly

This is why I'm not a fan of them removing the like button. Now I have to say "that was amusing, Helz" instead of just clicking a button. That post could've racked up three likes easy.

Wryly


Helz wrote:
Why are you determined to get eliminated? I just do not understand. Rex is clearly the play and we need to hear from Meow.


To prove my Sensor results, my Character Cop, my Commuter, and that I am a JOAT. My arguments are falling on deaf ears, but my flip will be more compelling.

Wryly


Wryly wrote:
Scum need Rex to be lynched after me because my flip would make LYLO an uphill battle.


Lol, *me after Rex

Wryly

Mikal over here trying to sell us on a deathproof dreamer who gets multiple POEs, a regular JOAT who gets another POE, and a master universal JOAT who can cop two people a night. This isn't real.

Wryly


Mikal wrote:
Dont know what to tell you. Helz can verify. He dreamed me and owen the other night and he can only get 1 scun


Who is Owen again?

Wryly


Mikal wrote:
Perfectly well could be. Game seems role chaos


Your power by itself would make this game *ridiculously* town-sided. You can pick any 2 mafia abilities from the internet a night? You can motivate yourself and cop someone? Come on. The idea that Lunatic would stack that on the town side is ridiculous in itself, especially considering you are arguing that there is only 1 real vanilla in the game. But the idea that he would give town a master universal JOAT and a conventional JOAT is so laughable that for my own sanity I refuse to believe town can honestly swallow it.

Wryly


Mikal wrote:
The real justification was about the same. Millions of us spam and annoy people. Due to the massive amount of confusion we cause I can pick any role. I said this np1 to pie. He knew as well


Sorry but that's weak af

Wryly


Mikal wrote:
Thing is you and pie are at odds
Rex and pie are at odds
Me and rex are at odds
Rex and helz are at odds


Regardless od the final solve

Rex is always exactly scum unless pie and helz are scum


Dawg you know there's not two town JOATs, all I'm asking is for town to lynch me first.

Wryly

If Mikal is a scum master universal JOAT, it could explain much of the confusion and interference we're probably seeing in the mechanical data.


I thought Mikal's mason justification was Indians and call centers. What's the role justification for Indians and master universal JOAT?

Wryly

Didn't two of you claim you were roleblocked NP2 and your theory was scum has a Motivator? Given that I now know Mikal claimed Motivator to you guys, how exactly was he spinning that? "Oops guys guess I accidentally motivated scum"? Then why didn't you tell us "hey Mikal motivated player X and we both got roleblocked last night"?

Wryly

Regardless, lynching me will resolve it.


  1. Mikal and I can't both be town, so this will resolve that immediately.
  2. It will prove that Pie's result was wrong.
  3. It will prove my green check on Rex was correct.
  4. It will prove MeowMix lied.
  5. It will greatly inform your analysis of Helz's dream.



Wryly

My head is positively aspin. This is a fascinating conundrum and endgame is gonna be juicy. There can't be two town JOATs, so Mikal is lying. That anyone actually bought he could use two abilities a night as town is baffling, but the amount town has been willing to swallow this game has been boggling to me in general.


If Mikal is scum, Rex is town because Mikal wants him dead. But that means Helz's vision would implicate... whiteflame? This would certainly explain why I've felt that whiteflame has been off this game, but whiteflame was confirmed by both Pie and Mikal, and they couldn't both be scum. Also leaves me in the lurch on MeowMix. Could he be 3P?

Wryly


whiteflame wrote:
Honestly, I just can't see Mikal being this blatant about such a strange role, and the virtual confirmation that he was the target of the NK at least one of the last two nights means I'm hard townreading him. I'll still wait to hear from Rex about all this before posting a vote.


They likely waived the NK to enable this analysis.

Wryly


Mikal wrote:
Ah instead id the guy who has 4 results on him

Lol

And if your town why are you saying that when the game would end. Nice bluff


How would it end? There's 4 town, 2 scum, 1 3P right now. Tomorrow there'd be 3 town, 2 scum, 1 3P, which would count as 4-2 for parity purposes.