Helz wrote:
I have no idea what you are on about there. I think you are absolute flat scum from your positions with other players and 2 slips I won't unpack yet.
I want you to die or I want a no elimination today. Thats my goal.
Now is definitely the time to unpack them buddy.
Thoth wrote:
I agree that Wryly has given me a bad gutread.
Every fucking game
I'm fine with Ultra.
I think I'm gonna go kneel over the toilet for thirty min to an hour and wait to see if this burrito is gonna come back up.
Mikal wrote:
Yes largely.
We were trying to sit on it to see if others claimed.
2 are at least town. If two are at least town and people are saying a third could also be town then why are the people saying that pushing to lynch inside that poe when they are saying jts possible for all 3 to be town. It makes 0 fucking sense.
Either you agree and one is lying and the other two are locked or you think all 3 are town and push somewhere else.
It makes 0 fuckinf sense
They're pushing for a lynch within those three for behavioral or mechanical reasons, not because 5 logically means one of them must be scum.
*guaranteed
Mikal wrote:
If town ignores this. We are retarted.
If mafia did not pick 5
5 must be true
If 5 is true. There are 2 town locked vanillas.
Mikal, two guarantees vanillas does not mean a third vanilla is scum.
Did Pie agree with you about this in mason chat?
Mikal wrote:
Pie and I disagree with this a bit. The fact he wants it does era me. Also told him this. I found a mod oversight that locks the game down. Pie knows what this is but I do not think ultra or wylted need to be the target today unless we full on mass claim.
Elaborate plz
Surely Rex is just Jews then. Hard to believe they'd be left out of Stereotype Mafia
Debating whether to vote Ultra or wylted then. Does Lunatic *always* use the "contribute your voice" vanilla phrasing?
Helz wrote:
People keep focusing on me and my not claiming. I want to ask why.
Why is Pie given this weird "He is the dictator of claims" position?
What has Pie possibly done this game to deserve such a title to dictate who claims when? Why is it people have to argue against their established "I CLAIM LAST" thing?
What is the reasoning for this position to begin with?
I feel like you keep getting more caught up in defying perceived authority than in advancing the game. The only reason I'm not pressuring Pie right now is because he agreed to a compromise and you haven't.
I've explained why I want to know everyone's flavors. Multiple people have explained why confirming your role next DP isn't an ironclad promise.
Helz wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Helz wrote:
Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?
There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.
It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO
Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?
You could still wiggle out of it though -- argue that you could've only proven it under certain conditions and those conditions were not met NP2. Depends on the role.
Helz wrote:
Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?
There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.
It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO
Helz wrote:
I think a T! Pie would understand a player thats locked themselves into a confirmable position that is 100% self resolving would just claim.
I think that them digging in SOOOOO fucking hard on this stupid "Nah, you claim first" is just scum wanting to avoid a CC
He's already softed pretty specifically
Helz wrote:
Wryly wrote:
This is Solo Leveling mafia all over again.
Confirm your role, then.
I will. Tonight. And if I do not then I am 100% confirmed scum.
What is this resistance to Pie claiming? Why? What have they possible done in any way shape or form to be treated as town dictating who claims first and declaring that they should claim last?
Given I am 100% self resolving by my claim they should claim first yeah? Basic reasoning there.
Jesus fucking Christ, I did press Pie to claim. What the fuck does it matter who claims first. Just do it at the same time so I can look for potential theme splits.
MeowMix wrote:
Actually, I'm just good with this game. @whiteflame @wryley please God help us
Just leave your vote on wylted and hit the hay. I'm gonna see how this plays out. May place my vote on wylted later.
In addition to getting us past this dick measuring contest, character claiming will allow us to analyze if Mechanic 3 is true or false.
Helz wrote:
Wryly wrote:
It's 9 PM EST. A claim from both of you will resolve this impasse.
Think about what I just posted.
I am self resolving now. My claim is nothing. Pie needs to claim their flavor 100%
This is Solo Leveling mafia all over again.
Confirm your role, then.
It's 9 PM EST. A claim from both of you will resolve this impasse.
Helz wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Claim at the same time. 9:00 PM EST.
No. I have hard claimed something that I can do and confirm myself or I will be killed. They claim first.
There is no reason for me to not be the last person to claim with what I just claimed.
Do you remember when I said you probably wouldn't claim out of obstinacy and you were like nah
Claim at the same time. 9:00 PM EST.
MeowMix wrote:
What in the heck are you talking about gay boy. Look at the two wagons and look at who moved, hammered and why.
Look at them yourself I got no gas in the tank, no junk in the trunk, no slay in my gay, no wink in my twink
Thoth wrote:
Wryly wrote:
Is that one of the things moderators deem no-no or something
From what I’ve seen, yes, but some other players have seen more than I have. Being able to check alignment claims essentially makes it a Strengthened Cop on anyone who claims alignment, when otherwise its main drawback that it can get false positives on alignment when Town tells whoppers.
Actually I now remember Lunatic giving me a whole spiel about how Lie Detectors were phased out because they were overpowered.
Thoth wrote:
FYI, with me around, putting anyone at more than 2 votes is putting them at L-1. It’s remarkable that nobody has pointed that out iircz
I assumed you wouldn't be voting except to prove your role, so you'd target someone with no wagon on them
MeowMix wrote:
Wryly wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
Honestly this is boring. If Wylted doesn't get momentum in 10 minutes I'm voting Helz and leaving for the day.
Other than not being here what is there against Helz?
He wouldn't vote Wylted. We actually had a whole back and forth about it for a while. So they're probably partnered.
Entire lobby has vapid scumreads and nobody can at least try worldbuilding a team. I don't think anyone except maybe WF has done basic wagonomics from D1.
There's not a lot to go off of and also daylight come and me wan go home.
Everyone who doesn't claim by 8:00 PM EST is hereby pronounced gay by the LGBT community
He agreed to character claim he just doesn't seem to be around to follow through
MeowMix wrote:
Honestly this is boring. If Wylted doesn't get momentum in 10 minutes I'm voting Helz and leaving for the day.
Other than not being here what is there against Helz?
Are you just women
ILikePie5 wrote:
Claims List
Ultra - Boomers - Vanilla
MeowMix (Magoroth) - Blacks - ???
Rex - ??? - ???
Whiteflame - Christians - ???
Thoth - Mexicans - 1x Triple Voter
Pie - ??? - ???
Mikal - Indians - Mason
Wryly - LGBTQ - ???
Helz - ??? - ???
Wylted (Casey) - Whites - Vanilla
Banana - Asians - 2x Lie Detector
Kohai - Russians - Town Drunk
So far we have 6 races/ethnicities, 1 religion, 1 age group, 1 sexual or gender orientation.
I only recall a Lie Detector in Thoth's game and there were some strict limitations iirc
