How is Pie in your POE?
How is Pie in your POE?
The design is pretty crappy with just Luna and Helz’s roles. And then the whole PM justification Helz had. Nothing about goggles relating to JinHoo and it’s in the description.
Yeah unfortunately there's a pattern of loose justifications and role overlap that makes Casey's claim within the realm of plausibility. It's a problem that will resolve itself, but kind of sucks the roles haven't been discrete enough that I can rule Casey out on role redundancy alone.
how would they know that?
It's the obvious move.
Okay, I just talked with Mikal and I think I understand what's going on. Mikal is one of those mods who distinguishes between a visiting role and a non-visiting role.
Eye of the beast (Luna) - can see whether or not someone moves
Observe (me) - can see whether or not someone attempts to use any action, but I don't learn if it's successful or not
Goggles (Helz) - can see whether or not someone uses any action and whether or not it's successful
Some absolutely insane game design here but that's how it works ig
Struggling to see this.
Luna's ability allows him to see if his target visits someone or not, that's it. Your ability lets you see if someone attempts to visit someone? So if they were roleblocked, for instance, Lunatic would see nothing, but you would see they attempted to use an action? But then how is this different from Helz, who can also detect success/fail?
Having an ability that's called by a synonym is not the strongest reason to scumread someone.
I have reason to believe the ability that hit Casey came from a townie. That’s all I’m gonna say.
What, some kind of delayed night vig? Sounds fishy.
See #189. Seems to be a direct contradiction between Luna and Casey's role, and if Casey is scum, I don't see a scum!Mag1c here.
I struggle to understand scum!Casey claiming to be injured as well, but the point stands that Luna's role is basically a hard CC of Casey's.
I also asked Mikal if Yoo Jinho receives armor in the show, per Helz's "Protective Armor" ability. He does receive armor in the show. So I still say it would have helped if he had full claimed; knowing that at least part of his role had canon support might have offset all this "he doesn't get goggles in the show" skepticism.
Didn't think to take a screenshot.
I asked Mikal if Luna's ability allowed him to see if his target used an action, but not what type of action or who they used it on. He confirmed yes. This is identical to how Casey describes their role in #32.
It was like a show where the animators abruptly decide to change the animation style for a gag and make every character Garfield or Simpsons style. "Whoaaa that looks weird."
don't think I'm gonna be able to progress the game until this UI change is ironed out lol
Well nvm lol
Maybe what's getting him is that it's not called Avoider but functions exactly like Avoider. The MU description: "The Avoider may each night target someone. If that player targets the Avoider with any night action, it will not work." That's pretty much how you described your role, isn't it?
I'm asking Mikal for more clarification on Luna's role.
I'm actually unclear on what an injury even is. If it just causes a delayed kill, how's that different from poison?
What do you think of Casey's claim?
How Casey describes her ability: "I can target someone to see if they used an action or not, but I don't learn what type or who they used it on."
How Mikal described Lunatic's ability: "A few people have asked. Lunas role allowed him to target someone and see if they moved. Not who they visited."
Oh you're right, my b. Looking at the wrong thing.
Banana did VTL Alyssa. She did not vote on Thoth.
Casey voted Shining DP1. Did not vote DP2.
I think it’s Casey/Banana
Where does that leave us on Shining?
Scum!Banana could explain the defense of Helz. Towncred play.
Information is power. Who did you recruit and why
In the interests of transparency I may be willing to do an info trade here for the identity of another Hunter. I'll need to discuss it with my guild.
Actually, I'd be glad to. I'm myself. I am the silent observer, the one who speaks little but is always observing. My ability is that once a night, I can target someone to see if they used an action or not, but I don't learn what type or who they used it on. Makes me sus of Shining as well since we both have roles that mention us being the silent type. Granted, it is true of him as well, even more so I'd say, but it also doesn't make sense to me. My own card does make sense to me.
This sounds a lot like Motion Detector, which is what Lunatic was.
Also, MS says an Observer actually learns what action was used on their target, not if their target used an action.
I did a double-check on the non-character players. wylted's ability was called Explosive End. Shining says his is called Take One For The Team. Casey says hers was called Silent Observer. There are some custom names for abilities even among the players who are themselves.
Hmm. MU does have an entry for Avoider. Nothing for Evader on MU or MS.
those are solo leveling characters with those names for abilities not players themselves
Good point.
Given that my last two results were wrong, I was a high priority NK target, and we have a pretty good POE, it didn't seem like a huge loss.
I'm wondering if what he's getting at is that everyone else's ability has a custom name like "Mana Smell" or "Eyes of the Beast", so it being called Evader seems odd?
Thank you. Now why did u not investigate someone?
Mikal said everyone in town would die if I didn't fuck Pedro Pascal last NP so I was going at it hard. For town.