ebuc

Antropic Principle

ebuc · 3 months ago

Ergo, humans get into the nitty gritty complexities of detailed distinctions much more than other animals because of more access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts.


Anthropic { top } > Claude { moving toward bottom } > human entered code?


Anthropic Principle = without humans to assign a purpose to Universe, Universe is moot point.


AI...' Anthropic's Twist: The founders of Anthropic applied this concept to artificial intelligence: The AI systems we create must be designed to be compatible with human survival and flourishing, because if they aren't, there will be no society left to use or regulate AI. '..

https://www.anthropic.com/constitution

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I heard it cost $60 mil. I sure hope this was not USA citizens tax money feeding the Trumpet Kings Huge, Narrcistic Ego.

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Governor = AI....' A lawn mower governor acts like a cruise control for your engine. It balances opposing forces—governor springs pulling the throttle open and internal engine weights pushing it closed—to keep the engine running at a safe, stable speed (typically around 3,600 RPM) regardless of how thick the grass is. [1, 2, 3] '...


What we have with MAGA republicans is a failure moral integrity to place governor on their immoral actions.


Want lower prices then SHRED Obamas treaty with Iran and along with Israel begin bombing them and threaten Karg Island with invasion of USA soldiers.


MAGA republicans are worse than just being dumb, there morals are lacking cause of nuttin-ness in the head.

ebuc
Psychologists and cognitive researchers commonly identify these 10 behavioral and mental signs of high intelligence: 


I find FLRW's intelligence to be much higher than all other non-human animals. Go FLRW! Keep banging out your access to meta-space intelligence

ebuc
Logical conclusions always breakdown at the point of creation



Who ever created --discovered and expressed-- the Cosmic Principle of five and only five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra is not incorrect --" breakdown"-- does not apply with this principle. None have or every will offer a logical, evidence based contridiction to this principle. Simple.


Finite sets and limits of our eternally existent, finite Universe does not sit well with some people. Worse is those blokes who offer us unverified infinite this that or other, that is not:


1} the macro-infinite truly non-occupied space outside/beyond/meta the finite occupied space Universe,


2} meta-space concepts of infinite set of numbers, this that or other. A concept is not an occupied space. Meta-space concepts stem from human experiences of occupied space parts of Universe.


....2a} there exist --and never will-- no occupied space infinite set of numbers in the sky or elsewhere.


There exist no purple polka dot, biological unicorns, mass produced in a Toyota factory, and sold to a non-existent infinite set of robot fetuses/babies, that exist inside uranium based elements robots created from elements beyond transuranium 142.


Limits exist to what can exist in occupied space Universe. Resistance is futile (:--) O (--:)

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SD...If "space and time were created at the exact moment of the Big Bang", then there was no "before", the moment of the Big Bang and anything prior to that lies outside the space and time frame of reference of science.


Macro-infinite truly non-occupied space and dynamic, finite occupied space Universe @ eternally exist.


What exists outside of beyond{ meta } the above primary, Cosmic Two-ness existence is Meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and sometimes ego.


This above is the Cosmic Trinary Set/Outline/Table of Contents.


None have or ever will add to this above Cosmic Trinary set, nor will anyone ever identify and catagory that does not exist in one of more of the above Cosmic Trinary Set. Few have tried and failed


...> meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and sometimes ego


---- conceptual line of demarcation ----


..> macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space ......space......


...> dynamic, transformative, finite, occupied space Universe .....space.....@....space......


Potential only applies to what can emerge from the finite, occupied space Universe. This is because there and eternally existent, finite set of eternally inviolate physical laws and cosmic principles.


Ex five and five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra is an eternally inviolate, Cosmic Principle.


The scenario of beginning of spacetime stems from gravitational convegency to a singularity aka null { incomplete } geodesic trajectories of a photon inside a black hole. .......(---> o <----)...... and what a math does not always represent is what exists, or does not exist in our finite occupied space Universe.


Sabine Hossenfelder Blog Spot...."Most physicists believe that the singularity in black holes is not real, but that it is instead of the same type as the other singularities in physics. That is, it just signals that the theory, in this case general relativity, breaks down and to make meaningful predictions, one needs a better theory. For the black hole singularity, that better theory would be a theory for the quantum behavior of space and time, a theory of “quantum gravity” as it’s called. ".... https://backreaction.blogspot.com/2020/12/are-singularities-real.html


And it was S Hawking suggesting that the Universe....AI Reddit -->..' The association between the universe and black holes stems from his early work with physicist Roger Penrose. They proved mathematically that if you run time backward for our expanding universe, it collapses into a point of infinite density and zero volume called a singularity. This is essentially the exact same mathematical description as the center of a black hole, leading Hawking to point out that the universe began as an "exploding black hole" in reverse '.....






ebuc
So what did you think? Did you agree with his framing?


I agree with Serge's assement of he does make a degree of sense. Again, I love the splitting this that in the other with a third in the middle, so sort of like fissioning of atom by Enricho Fermi analogy as I think he may have mentioned.


It seems this video resonated or at least stirred up attention.
I wonder why that is exactly.


It is long and slow in places, and not sure of his meaning, yet other places I find a very sensible approach to describing not only AI intelligence, humans fissioning of this that in the other with a central resultant between the splitting. Sorry, its been a while since I watched it, I have no recall of some of thos specific splittings by humans.


I just now opened the utube again and am reminded of all the paper work behind him, and his whole dialogue is kinda of like the huge pile of paper behind him. So I guess that is visual waring to others who want to listen to his diatribe{?} on AI intelligence.


AI is intelligence, just not complex as biologic consciousness that has so many more complexites via feelings, emotions, etc environmental factors that play into the existence of bacteria, and all other more complex biologics.


Also I thought the original subtitle said AI is intelligence, tho now it says ..' AI does to us what American Cheese did to food '...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CbmC2aWhjY


ebuc
Fact is, that 6 people have commented on this thread and none of us have a clue why creation and existence should have occurred.


thank you Serge. Naught is created nor destroyed, only transformed, eternally. Simple.


<....................................space.................@......................space............................................. >


@ symbolizes the eternally existent, dynamic, finite, occupied space Universe


Woo Woo, Bubbly Boo, Ive created a another local universe from nothingness, not doo doo. Sounds like something from the old Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoon show with Mr Wizard


Wiki...' The Magic Words: To grant Tooter's wishes, Mr. Wizard casts a spell by reciting the famous incantation: "Drizzle, Drazzle, Druzzle, Drome, time for this one to come home."


The Lesson: Things always go wrong for Tooter in his new roles, prompting him to call out for Mr. Wizard to save him. Mr. Wizard would then rescue him and deliver his signature moral lesson: "Be just what you is, not what you is not." ...


ebuc

Nonetheless, I was careful not to say that time moved, but rather that events moved in reverse order... Suggesting that future events become past events, rather than the past events become future events.



..Syntropic.....growth .........Past >.... Entropic Arrow of Time ...> Future >.........Entropic decay......


.........Out...< observed time >......In........ >{ Hi Its Me ^ v ^ } < ......In.....< Observed Time >.......Out......


...............Past < ........................Out <.........Observed Flow of Time .........In < .........Future.....<...............................


Two terminal end points to conceptual unit of time measurements that, are used in human accounting and observed time is that which feel the flow of observed time passing through us { in us } and around us.


....................................................space..................@...............space...................


@ = dynamic, finite, occupied space Universe


( )( ) = conceputalize pattern accounting symbolism of positive and negative curved geodesics of of observed time


^v^v^v = sine-wave conceptualization pattern accounting symbolism as the trajectories associated with observed time

ebuc
So the existence of matter may be simple, but as yet we haven't been able to actually pin it down.


Fermionic Matter, stems from first person to split the atom { 1934 } Enrico Fermi.


Fermions = whole number rational spins accounting


Bosonic Forces { fractional spin accounting } = the force exchange between fermions ex photons are bosonic force and exchanged between electrons.


These are two have been the primary basis for all known particles for many years now.


It was in the last few years they have added a third new catagory that is a combination of these two.


AI...google..' For decades, physics classified all elementary particles into just two distinct categories: fermions (the "antisocial" building blocks of matter) and bosons (the "sociable" force carriers). However, mathematical theories and experiments have revealed bizarre "in-between" quantum particles that break this binary rule '..

https://www.facebook.com/oistedu/posts/every-particle-in-our-universe-seems-to-fit-strictly-into-two-categories-boson-o/1207605244901146/


..' For decades, quantum mechanics assumed that all observable particles fall into two categories: fermions, which repel each other, and bosons, which clump together. '...

https://www.mpq.mpg.de/beyond-fermions-and-bosons-paraparticles-are-indeed-mathematically-possible


Static geometric patterns are finite aka limited possibilities of what patterns can exist. Ex five and on five regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra can exist in Universe ergo conceptually possible.


3-fold regular tetra{4}hedron

4-fold regular octa{8}hedron

4-fold regular cube/hexagon{ 6 }

--

5-fold regular icosa{20}hedron

5-fold regular pentagonal dodeca{ 12 }hedron


Dynamic patterns of what can exist is much broader catagory,


ebuc

( )( ) = space --positive, negative and flat{ zero } --



^v^v^v = time ---modulation/moderation of frequency and angle-- Bucky Fuller


ebuc
I live in Florida and I set my thermostat to 80.


I live in a Republican-MAGA etc business run state so I set my thermostat at whatever they say I should set it at,


... as they have a good record of being so smart,


..... when it comes to what the 8 billion plus humans on Earth should be doing improve the ecological systems that sustain humanity for the longest time periods on Earth, the moon and on of course soon will be on Mars also.


Long Live the our intelligent Pharoahs and the Kings!



ebuc
Though I'm guessing that modern engineers will still prefer to use cranes over ramps, rollers and enthusiastic non-slaves.


I dont think anyone wants to build a Egyptian style pyramid, as that Pharaoh worship religion long ago died and buried away.


Except for MAGA and Trump of course. A golden pyramid could be in the works or maybe orange pyramid. <(:--)) O ((--:)>


^^^ ^^^^ ^^ Land of Orange Pyramid MAGA Cone Heads in USA ^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^

ebuc
I think that we have to just accept the fact that the Egyptian pyramids were constructed somehow, and that we are not quite sure how they were constructed...


Agreed


And I think that the general consensus is ramps and a lot of effort, rather than space helicopters...


Agreed


That said, fascination is harmless if it doesn't become obsessive.


Its a engineering feat to be discovered, since we have no texts from the Eygptians of how they did. That is a bit of mystery on its own, since the Eygptians were good keeping detailed text accounts of who shipped stones on their boats on what dates and to which ports along the Nile river.


1} The outer pyramid --allowing more platform area for operational working--,


2 } uses the much less degrees of incline for rolling stones on logs,


3} allows for work area for installing the pointed stone top of pyramid not found on pyramids in other sites around the Earth,


4} if there were texts telling how the pyramids were constructed,


....4a} were they lost,


.....4c} were they discovered and destroyed by archeologists over years of discovery,


.......4d} they exist yet hidden by modern Eygptian archeologists,


..........4e} were they destroyed by original builders for who knows what reason?


Here is site about info regarding large ports with records of boats etc using these ports.


...' ‘Including Wadi el-Jarf and Ayn Sukhna, we now know the location of three harbours on the Red Sea,’ says Pierre, ‘and Wadi el-Jarf is the earliest of them. From what we have seen so far, we think it was created in the reign of Sneferu (c.2675- 2633 BC), the king at the beginning of the 4th Dynasty. At the time he was probably constructing a pyramid of his own. This was an era when things were built on a grand scale, with 31 storage galleries created at Wadi el-Jarf, whereas our two later harbours don’t have more than ten. Even more important is that a big jetty was installed at Wadi el-Jarf, which probably makes it the oldest artificial open-sea harbour in the world. In total, this jetty is about 200m long from east to west and from north to south, enclosing an area of around 6-7ha. Again, this sets it apart from our other two sites, where natural features on the coastline were used to shelter boats.’ ..

https://www.world-archaeology.com/features/records-of-the-pyramid-builders/



ebuc
Intelligence was as intelligence did...Still does I suppose.


Egyptians kept lots of records of the math abiliites --tho some times found in strange places { horus' eye?}.


The recorded delivery of blocks of stone on river by specific boat men in specific ports.


What they did not record ---or if they did, it was lost-- was how they built the pyramids. If nto specifically the great pyramid.


So were left were these varied ideas of how it was done. This latest trapzoid --back-n-forth ramps on one or more faces of outer pyramid platform-- theory solves problems the two other most well known --if not accepted-- issues with these other two.

ebuc
Nah Bro. Aliens would use extremely lightweight but strong composite materials...Same sort of stuff as the Mothership.
Why the F would they want to quarry and lug 80 ton lumps of rock about.


Thank you Serge. I agree with you logical, common sense critical thinking approach.


Here is more info about this Trapezoid Method of Engineering one of more of the Egyptian pyramids. She says the outer working platforum pyramid had in it or also used to haul the limestone cladding and apply it as the build. She states some other way, tho what she said, doesnt make logical sense to me.


She states that the as the outer pyramidal working structure --constructed of limestone--- flipped over the lime stone blocks as the deconstructed from top to bottom, and applying the limestone cladding as they deconstructed the outer platform. I doesnt make sense to adding cladding via a method of top to bottom as the deconstruct.


https://www.facebook.com/funnyoldeworld/videos/the-cannibalising-pyramid-theory-egypt-ancienthistory-losthistory/1587609185594285/

ebuc

So what some others are telling me the whole Australian rock art thing I posted above is AI hoax. I dunno, tho I did wonder about that as I watched it

ebuc

San Diego shootings

ebuc · 4 months ago

If they were, then they'd be getting a pardon and a few million from Trumps $1.776 BB fund to reward political violence.


Yeah I saw that about the Jan 6th rioters now to get paid for their actions.


Artificial Intelligence not even. 97% lack of intelligence, yes.


The lies and stupidity --not to mention so much worse-- just keeps coming from this MAGA bunch and those republicans who lack the spine to oppose them.

ebuc

A new utube with new theory of how Egyptian pyramids were built. I dont think this is AI created. I also like the idea very much.


One of the key items she points out is the keystone point at top is actually one of the hardest things to complete with the two other classically primary ways that have been proposed as most logical.


She state that this is why dont see these pointy caps on other pyramids around the world, is because the Eygptians who time, plenty of bountiful lush food sources and peoples { not just slaves } who were all working toward this grand pyramid making goal.


Oh yeah, in this image below, do not confuse it with the often used and accepted ramp around the pyramid to build it as that method had two flaws, that, this new theory does not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5kWDOuY2Uo

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New genetic evidence for perhaps 30 peoples coming from Valley of Mexico, bringing with them their elite religous ancient blood practices if not terrorism to create the Chaco Canyon development in New Mexico.


A criminologist for years had looked at bones from Chaco and the southwest and expressed concerns of cutting and scraping of human bones as cannibalism practices. It was only more recently, in some site in lower Colorado, then found preserve human feces and proteins in the feces that only comes from human muscles attached to the bones.


Apparrently it is now this small group instituted fear and terror into the local native populations to build Chaco Canyon and support it with food etc. It also appears this was more easily done for those years because rainfall was plentiful --as there was no main source of flow water, other than the one creek that runs through the center.


Then the years of drought or on record that show at same time the Chaco Canyon became abandoned. The locals may have killed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsfnAIasjtg

ebuc
One often wonders what the world 'truly looked like in ages past.
Theory and archeology frequently seeming a thin faded ghost, compared to what 'might have been, and been lost beyond observation.


True. Often we dont realize what the specific ecological environment may have been for those peoples. Plentiful wildlife, even if the averages of human life span was much lower.


They lived, reproduced and spread far and wide for most part. Mammoth and Australian { 50,000 yrs ago } above was new for me.

ebuc

Fertilization is syntropic biodiversity via sex.


Birthed-out of womb or other bacterial ways multiplication/reproduction of genetics, is continuation of syntropy.


Death is entropic decay of biologic life integrity, and,

....the highest decay of the biologic integrity would be converting of all matter of integrity,

....becoming bacteria or minerals, and perhaps bone/calcium falls into the catagory.


...> Calcium = 20 protons, 20 neutrons and 20 electrons. AI..' Calcium is highly stable in its natural isotopic and ionic forms, but chemically, it is one of the most reactive elements in pure metallic form '..https://mineralseducationcoalition.org/elements/calcium/


In 90's Fred Holy stated in his book The Intelligent Universe, that, if bacteria were left unchecked in the reproduction, the rapidity of their genetics would equal the mass of the Universe --at that time of writing the book for known Universe--- in 6 months.