The level-7 civilization is the next generation; being now godly in the sixth level, the seventh is passing the torch to our children, just as God anciently passed it to us, and thus, the cycle of civilizations begins anew, as it has for eons into the distant past, which had no beginning, and forward an equivalent infinite future, with no end to it, either. That is what eternity means.
Kardaschev's 6-level civ is a mature, god-like power which has control over every possible energy source material to create and shape it to an infinite-capable and universal energy source of omnipotent ability. There is only one further level of civilization beyond this, and that level is discussed by the level-7 civ.
fraught with technical problems.
You make it so pessimistic! There was a minor glitch. They were still able to use the toilet; they just could not process/recycle the waste, and did not really need to for a 10-day journey. Give it a rest, huh? Much bigger problems could have occurred, and did not. Why not celebrate that? Because Trump is president and has revived the space program? Oh, boo-hoo.
Mars is a whole different kettle of fish
Yes, it is different, but possible and probable. At one point in the Mars orbit, each year, its is in a shortest-distance-from-Earth period, and the journey will occupy about 6 months, soonest, so we should leave several months before that window begins. In that time frame, we must return the crew to Earth within 30 days of landing on Mars, or its distance from Earth will be too great to return with current payload capacity [food, water, fuel]. Possible, yes. Difficult, certainly. I believe in probabilities, and probability calculation is within my expertise; I did it for the better part of 30 years.
You and others are clueless
Don't be so bloody sure your accusations don't erupt much closer to home; they usually do. We all push out shyte pretty much the same way, my friend, don't think you are immune. That's the trap of personal attack, my friend; it usually comes home to roost.
arguably the most corrupt President in US history
Geo Washington had a wandering eye, and likely the "cock-a-doodle-doo" followed. Tommy Jefferson had children by his favored slave who was not his wife. Don't be so cock-sure your "corruptible US politics" has not always been the case. Its is a long and distinguished list... Teddy Roosevelt? FDR? John Kennedy, and Bobby? Barry Oba'a?
Certainly not in our lifetime.
Wow. really? You do know, yes, that within one lifetime, and not a long one by today's standards, we went from flying 800 feet distance at an elevation not much more the 10 feet to landing on the moon, and coming home safely to Earth. Do not belittle our ability to create new tech capable of getting to Mars and back.
Civilization comes from the Latin for city.
That is etymology [word origin], not definition. Try to distinguish the difference. The etymology of "privacy" is also Latin: "privatus," which is [meaning] "set apart," and "not belonging to the state." Tell that latter meaning to 19th century slaves, my friend.
And as Iran does not have nukes...
Iran has over 400kg of 60%-enriched plutonium, which has a singular purpose that does not include energy sourcing. It is only used to create nuclear weapons when enriched to the full nuclear weapon need of 90% enrichment, which can be accomplished with no further tech needed that Iran doers not lack, within weeks. We frankly don't know if they've already achieved that added 30%, but cannot allow it, period.
A previous oil war
Thinking this is about oil is about as ridiculous as thinking Oba'a did us a favor creating deal with Iran that gave them, besides time, several billion dollars. That is retarded.
Hunting for oil
The US does not need to hunt for oil, my friend. We have more than anyone else in the world in proven reserves. Unproved...? More.
Seven levels in 3 types,
but then, I do not believe in limited progress as I do not believe there is an end to knowledge, and further, no end to wisdom, which is just knowledge used to its best, infinite use.
Best look up what "civilization" means, because it isn't what you obviously think it means.
Ancient Egypt was a civilization. Nobody nuked them.
Ancient Greece was, too. Nobody nuked them.
Rome, as well. Nuked? Nope.
Not a woke word, by the way.
Eric Swalwell [D-CA 14th] Congressman and former House Intel Chrmn who became Keystone Cop with Jerry Nadler [trhen D-NY 10th] under Nancy Pelostomy, inundated from several years ago with philandering with a Red Chinese spy, and now with several office "assistants," who tried valiantly with "evidence" to impeach Trump, had sacrificed his gov campaign [CA], and now has quit Congress. I'm so sad [not]
Swallowell deserved to choke.
The toilet wasn't the issue; it was post-deposit processing. That feature is not so important for going to the moon and returning, but is critical for going to Mars, and beyond. That's a drinking water source, and potentially, an energy source as well, you know.
We need to be sending humans to the moon like we need another hole in our heads.
Do you use a desktop for your presence here, or your phone, which, in your case, since you despise miniaturization, is a massive box?
I can recall when computing was a room-size device. Can you?
Show me when Trump used, or was about to use one of our 6,000 nukes. You're as deluded as you claim Trump is.
The Constitution describes an ideal government very well, and, in fact, the preamble effectively makes the ideal condition near-angelic in nature: "...in order to form a more perfect Union." Can't get much better than that.
The idea of three co-equal branches, Legislative, Executive, and Judicial, is that ideal. We are neither a Democracy nor a Republic, but a unique combination off the two, and we share features of both quite well, all things considered. It is the longest lasting constitutional democratic republic [neither term meaning the two major parties, but rather, those forms of government, combined] ever to exist, bar none, at nearly, as of this July, 250 years. By contrast, the longevity of Socialism endures an average of 40 years, and the best ever achieved, less than 100 years [USSR]. China is near to achieving 100 years, but to say that China, i.e. the Peoples' Republic of China - [a curious chosen title - something like "Green New Deal" because the PRC is neither by the people, nor a republic in any traditional sense] is communist may be true, politically, but their economy is certainly more capitalist than communist. The G.N.D. is neither green, nor new, and is no deal at all.
What's wrong with us is the idea that govvernemt service ought to be a career. The four dress never thought that way. In their day, life expectancy was about 39. Ben Franklin, in his 80s, was a freak of nature. But they thought one3 should serve limited time, and go back to their farms and careers after a few years of service. Now, it's all about re-re-re-re election. Only Congress has avoided imposing limitation; the preside ty is limited to two terms as of Truman, and the Supreme Court is for a period of good behavior, and some - few - have retired. The average longevity in Congress, over the last 150 years, is 10 years in office. Most have left by that time; a few don't know how to do that, but they are outliers, so it's not as bad as many think. The idea of imperial presidency is wishful thinking to sell hatred for the president, but that is nonsense. Don 't like the guy, don't vote for him. It has worked so far, so why complain?
Kardaschev's level-5 civ is universal in scope, purpose, and accomplishment. Its abilities begin to appear god-like, and are. Who said it was ever possible for man to become god? Well, for one, God did. Also, the ancient Egyptians thought so. I suggest reading the Egyptian Book of the Dead. There's an English translation by E.A. Wallis Budge, and Egyptologist of the early 20th century. It is a worthy read. It is more appropriately titled "Spells for Coming Forth by Day." It is about resurrecting in perfection. Abraham taught the Egyptians when he sojourned there, and they learned and absorbed much from him, and pattered their tremples of the middle kingdom-dynasties according to his instruction.
Don't know if Kardashev ever read any of this re: ancient Egypt, he doesn't seem to mention.
The level-5 civilization is learning to to manipulate matter and energy and to create both at atomic level to bring order out of chaos. That is the better understranding of what creation is: organization of matter and energy; not creation from nothing. Looked at from that perspective, creation does not sound like magic, but merely learning higher levels of knowledge than man can conceive.
In tyhefirst of this series, level-0, I mentioned eight steps of kazdaaschev's levels of civilization. I meant 7, which means there are 2 levels to go.
I found the Hillaryous Balloon Girl campaign decidedly unconvincing.
racism, authoritarianism, dishonesty, xenophobia
I am none of those things.
There is no race to be racist. Human Genome Project. Ever hear of it, and what it determined after 13 years of analysis, concluded win 2003? Where have you been?
I am not authoritarian. When I had people working for me, I taught them how to calculate their personal value to the company, and they could thereby prove their personal worth. Made review time very easy for me,
I am not dishonest. Lies must be remembered in detail; more than they are worth. The truth is much easier to deal with.
I am not xenophobic. I celebrate true diversity. DEI has no idea what diversity really means. It is too intolerant to know.
I did answer your dumb question, and as I said, you would know were you more attentive to Greek. I meant that Thomas was doubtful through most of Christ's ministry, and thought they should go and die [be dead, literally, biologically, physically], because he thought they would be persecuted by either the Sanhedrin, the Pharisees, or the Romans, or all of them, and Lazarus' death seemed more agreeable. Lazarus was ill, and died, and it didn't sound to Thomas to be a painful death. The other potential death by perceived enemies[asThomas viewed them] would be painful. Get it? Yet? This isn't rocket science; it's typical, fearful human behavior when doubt or ignorance rule like they ruled Thomas, until he changed. Peter had to go through a similar life-change, not by ignorance, but by being over-zealous when not really certain about what was important. Christ's apostles were, before joining him, ordinary folks totally overwhelmed by a kingdom not of this Earth, but in tended to be its ruling principles if only they would embrace it with faith. Moses had the same frustrati0on with the Israelites in his day [not just Jews, but the entire House of Israel; there is a difference] They [Peter and Thomas, and others] had to be taught, as we do, about what faith really is [much more than mere belief], and how it functions [miraculously, but according to law/evidence/substance - things that are beyond the willful, self-limiting mind]. Read Paul's Hebrews, Chapter 112 - all of it. In fact, the entire book. Then, read all of James, because that is how to use the power Pauls describes in Hebrews. The thing about reading the Bible is that one cannot take every word given and think that is the literal, inter red word. Translation is an impediment. I wish you would accept that it has problems, but that sincere prayer can overcome those issues.
Kardaschev's level-4 civ is virtually unimaginable simply because at level 3, Galactic-level energy control, we have embarked on the virtual zenith of possible civilization, yet we're barely half-way along the scale. Here is the level of recognition of knowing all, because we have achieved the ultimate power; to manage a galaxy. Now, the challenge is to repeat the effort toward separate galaxies, but that is just expansion of wisdom without necessarily expanding knowledge.
The two are just about the same thing; knowledge and wisdom. One might say the distinction is levels of capability of perfection merely by repeated experience. It's like learning how to do a task once to ultimate perfection. Now, can we do it again? Repeat the performance? And then again, and then, still, again. That is the acqusition of wisdom, not just knowledge. How to use knowledge to its best effects. We may be able to stack an infinite number of stones, one upon another, but how stable are they? With experience of multiple efforts, stability will increase. That's true progress at this level of civilization.
Is it possible to achieve a higher level of civilization than this?
Yes; that is what levels 5 and 6 are for.
One of my great irritations is being told some X group of people is Y, resulting in Z. X, Y & Z are all monaural in nature, we think. We? This mono is a term that has lost its use in our glitz media age, I suppose because humans have 2 ears, and so should be able to hear stereophonic, not just monaural sound, and because we also happen to have stereopsis vision [2 eyes]. This assumption of consistent stereo sound and sight, is, of course, false, given the incident of humans who, with either or both ears or eyes [or both] are non-functional.
However, politically, too many think our political sensibniities ought to be mono, not stereo. Therefore, as in this case, all Rs are X, all Ds are Y, etc.
That is, by the first paragraph mostly absurd, given the sensibility of most of us is with two functional eyes, and two functional ears. So, why should our political, cultural, linguistic, or even race [if there was one, but the Human Genome Project, in 2003, determined the existence of race is strictly not], by mono?
Absurd notion. Every group, regardless of number [i.e., greater than one person] has as many expressions. Do not throw us all together, monaurally, because we are not. All Rs do no tell all Ds to leave the country if they do not like it.
it's just poor grammar, and not very social, either. Or, what's the term? Tolerant? Now, there's an overused, poorly felt sentiment.
I think SergeantLynch has the wisest comment here: Stop whining; enjoy the dance.
He [Trump] shares your values
The hell he does! Nope. You don't know me at all. I'm not a billionaire, I don't like FL or NYC, I don't chase skirts but one, and that one has come home with me for the last 53 years of nights in a row, I am LDS; he's not, He's of German descent, and I'm not, He's a builder, I don't [thgough I do invest in real estate]. I'm an artist, I don't see that he is, He likes gold fillgree; I detest it [though I do invest in gold]. He has airplane money [buys them], and I don't. But, we both appreciate America.
pertinent connection between the philosophies of Nikolai Kardashev and Al Gore.
The connection is that both believed global warming/climate change as fundamentally [existentially] threatening to life on Earth when the fact is, we've had much more violent, changeable climate as late as 140M years ago when mammals with identical physiological systems to modern man, and which could not be said to have been responsible for causing those climates, survived them to give rise to man, who have been claimed responsib00le for our milder, but allegedly more harmful climates. Oxymoronic, if you ask me.
swapping vests
Jesus was not an uncommon name in 79 CE. However, vests were.
nothing less than banished or exiled either voluntarily (apostasy) or forcefully ( excommunicated) , i.e. metaphorically "dead" to the movement.
As I've frequently told you, you're not capturing context or content in your"reading." Lazarus was not a voluntary apostate, nor an excommunicate. Nor the little girl whose name escapes me, but not her background. Nr anyone else for whom Christ brought back life from death, but nor by resurrection, anon parlor tricks, magic, nor advertising gimmick. Jesus' middle name was not P.T.Barnum.
wtf do you think Thomas meant
Thomas [Θωμάς] aka Δίδυμος [Didymus]: both names imply being a twin, and may also refer to his personal dual personality, being both a faithful and ultimately valiant apostle while originally being doubtful. You would that had you studied Greek sufficiently.
Stop taking us all for fkn mugs FFS!
To avoid being called "fkn mug," stop asking mug questions, or mug claims, like:
And Lazarus had lost faith in the cause and the Jesus movement, he understood that "the mission" was doomed to fail.
Where did that claim come from, because neither the Bethanian Lazarus, nor Thomas "lost faith in the cause." Lazarus ultimately was the first Bishop of Masala [modern Marseille, FR] and Thomas died a martyr in Mylapor [India]. And do not confuse the parable of
Lazarus in hell seeking aid from Abraham. Different Lazarus, a parable told by Jesus before the Bethenian Lazarus died, though both events are within a few months or less from the passion of Christ.
You know that I am right, you just can't admit nor accept it.
No, my friend, you're wrong on all counts. keep reading0 [or start]
The TDS force is strong, but decidedly misinformed. As said in another post, the woke DEI dictionary is a 10-page wonder that occupies 9 pages just to describe the grammatical interpretation of woke DEI-speak.
Note that I did not vote for Trump in the 2016 primary, but easily voted for him in the pres election because I would never vote for Hilarious Balloon Girl, who never was the smartest woman in the world. After all, would a "smartest woman" ever put her opponent squarely in the center of her pres campaign? Yeah? You would? What do you think saying "Love Trumps Hate" says for competitive politics?
The massive shift of tech that is level-3 civ will contain the power to tame the entire galaxy of star system to bring them under human dominion. o
This is entry in to the third type of civilization; Galactic Civ.
One feature of level-3 is the development of Dyson Spheres around every star system of the entire galaxy, the Mike Way. This means that travel around d the galaxy is possible, and colonization of humans can be achieved everywhere within the galaxy where human life is able to be sustained. This id the ability to populate any planet in the galaxy able to sustain "Class-M planets" of "Star Trek" fame, as 23rd century [to date, still science fiction] achievement; featuring nitrogen-oxygen atmospheres, liquid water, moderate climates, and are usually found in a star’s habitable zone, with Earth, Vulcan, and Romulus being notable [in the fictional "Star Trek" realm].
It is also thought [by Kardashev] that humanity, at this level of civilization, may be distinguishably different by evolution than today's humanity, giving us such variations as exhibited but the fictional "Star Trek" series.
Kardashev's level-2 civ is another Planetary Civilization0; its influence and power does not exceed the effect and power to launch th4e civilization beyond the planet on which one lives; in our case, planet Earth, or perhaps even other planets of the solar system. Therefore, even our colonization of the Moon, or Mars, the only planetary bodies other than Earth we are likely to inhabit for any length of time with our current tech.
A level-2 civilization has the ability to harness the power of the Sun. One of the effects of this acquired tech is the ability to create am energy cell, or seal, around the Earth which can by engaged and disengaged so that we can travel through it to the Moon and other planets, but with in engaged, will protect the Earth from wayward bodies as large as our Moon which may be on a collision course with Earth, but will be utterly destroyed by the cell, such that small fragments will not pass through to impact the Earth, but will be utterly vaporized. This "cell" is now called a "Dyson Sphere," named for the American physicist, Freeman Dyson, who conceived the idea.
We will achieve level-2 status within a thousand years.
Jesus didn't raise anyone at all from the "dead"?
You have misrepresented what I said. Yes, Jesus did not cause the resurrection off several people who were dead, such as
Lazarus, but he did raise them to life from death. There is a difference. As I said, Lazarus eventually died, and remains dead, as did the others. Once a person is resurrected, they will never die again.
You see in these cases dead does not mean biologically "dead" as in ceased living, not breathing, heart stopped, brain dead, "DEAD" at all.
Wrong. Biologically, these people who died and were raised from the dead by Christ, were dead, dead, dead. No longer living in the body, in physical, mortal flesh.
The prodigal son was not "dead" was he? But his father said he was "dead", and his father also said he he was "alive again" after being "dead",
There are two types of death, physical and spiritual. Physical death occurs when critical bodily functions cease [brain, heart, and other vital organs] and the spirit leaves the body, continuing to remain alive itself. The spirit does not die, only the physical body. Spiritual death is separation from God, a condition which can occur to mortals [physical body and spirit, combined as a human soul] when those humans willfully oppose and distance themselves from God when, by willful obedience to his commands, they would remain under the influence of the Holy Spirit.
concluding with a comparison between ancient and modern concrete.
Ancient Romans had concrete curing underwater in 25 B.C.E, but the formula was lost. We did not duplicate it until late 20th century.
AS for reinforced concrete, the Romans also realized that ordinary concrete use suffered from water and weather exposure, so they developed architectural features and added elements, such as lime, to strengthen concrete, and where these techniques were used, the concrete remains firm today.
Six sentences of error rife rambling just to have a dig at Al Gore.
Show me which sentence re: ALGore is not true. Is Manhattan inundated as he predicted? Do we not have adequate technology to compensate for environments that exceed a temperature variation of >1.5º C? Do we have any climate on Earth that remains within ±1.5ºC?Have we ever had such a climate, even before the advent of man?
If AlGore is going to make such inconvenient claims, he. better be able to back them up. To date, he has failed to do so. And where is AlGoreGooeyJuice to replace oil?
