whiteflame

Magoroth wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

Thoth wrote:

I am Oganesson. I don’t know what my role is and won’t learn it until DP4. Justification is that very little

is known about Oganesson and it will probably be a while before it’s seriously studied. I am SOP-claiming in case it’s something SOP-claimable.

So... hmmm...

On the one hand, I want to just townread this because it's such a weird pull. I'm not familiar with Oganesson (it was only discovered in 2002 and in general any of the ones listed under the "unknown properties" section of the table is beyond my limited knowledge), but it's an odd part of the Table to grab from, especially if you're looking for a fake claim. There are probably 3 scum in this game so it's possible that one of them would just go for it rather than waiting to ask questions, but this doesn't seem obvious, nor does the whole "I discover my role 4 DPs in" aspect. It's weird that that's so delayed, but in a game with this many players, reaching DP4 is pretty likely.

On the other hand, I don't get this as an SOP claim. It's an unknown role, not an SOP one. Maybe this is just Thoth being extra cautious, or maybe this is him trying to give himself some towncred out the gate in hopes he'll avoid investigations. I don't like the decision, even if I kind of townread the claim itself.

I hadn’t considered the possibility he is lying. If he’s telling the truth, I think it says a bunch of stuff about the setup that it would probably be unwise to discuss…

Fair point, I'm not planning on getting into the setup in detail based on his claim.

Magoroth wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

Oh boy, this one should be fun. I am sadly not Magnesium, so my white flame won't shine bright this game. Still, I'll try to work with what I have. I do have a more than passing familiarity with the Periodic Table, though being a life scientist, probably less than most physical scientists have. Be interested to see how the Table was divvied out and I've got some thoughts on possible theme splits that I'll keep to myself for now.

First time I’ve been to read emotion in your posts. Not AI reading it, I think it’s a me thing.

I'm planning on enjoying this one and posting more often, so hopefully it won't be the last time.

I sure hope you do, considering what life is made of

Eh, the elements themselves are important, but it's more about how they make up more complex molecules than about the elements themselves, particularly when you're talking about molecular biology and microbiology. It's an emphasis in many of the classes I took, just not usually the main one unless I'm in chemistry or physics.

I don’t think speculating about theme splits will be productive until we see at least one flip, maybe more than one. There are too many plausible ones.

Yeah, there's a reason I'm not bringing any of them up now.

Thoth wrote:

I am Oganesson. I don’t know what my role is and won’t learn it until DP4. Justification is that very little

is known about Oganesson and it will probably be a while before it’s seriously studied. I am SOP-claiming in case it’s something SOP-claimable.

So... hmmm...

On the one hand, I want to just townread this because it's such a weird pull. I'm not familiar with Oganesson (it was only discovered in 2002 and in general any of the ones listed under the "unknown properties" section of the table is beyond my limited knowledge), but it's an odd part of the Table to grab from, especially if you're looking for a fake claim. There are probably 3 scum in this game so it's possible that one of them would just go for it rather than waiting to ask questions, but this doesn't seem obvious, nor does the whole "I discover my role 4 DPs in" aspect. It's weird that that's so delayed, but in a game with this many players, reaching DP4 is pretty likely.

On the other hand, I don't get this as an SOP claim. It's an unknown role, not an SOP one. Maybe this is just Thoth being extra cautious, or maybe this is him trying to give himself some towncred out the gate in hopes he'll avoid investigations. I don't like the decision, even if I kind of townread the claim itself.

Oh boy, this one should be fun. I am sadly not Magnesium, so my white flame won't shine bright this game. Still, I'll try to work with what I have. I do have a more than passing familiarity with the Periodic Table, though being a life scientist, probably less than most physical scientists have. Be interested to see how the Table was divvied out and I've got some thoughts on possible theme splits that I'll keep to myself for now.

You know race cars used to be made out of magnesium. With DISASTROUS results.

Who knew you could ignite very flammable magnesium by driving super fast!?

Also, clearly have to be magnesium for obvious reasons. Just saying.

Think I'm good to join as well. /in

Eh this one actually should go to pie, he first suggested it, I just agreed with it lol

Fair enough, Pie MVP.

I thought Strongman, by definition, overrides all interference, and that overriding protection but not redirection is Juggernaut.

https://mafiagg.fandom.com/wiki/Strongman

The role as I read it just overcomes protection, not interference. I've seen some versions of the role that cannot be RB'd either, though I've never seen any that ignore redirection.

Also, Whiteflame, my role is the doc is wrong, my role PM said it was 2x not compulsive every night. It's a really shame this ended so quickly, it looks like it could have been a really cool setup. I like the idiosyncratic roles.

Yeah, I modified when I was writing my PM to you and forgot to change it in the doc. And yeah, don't see a lot of Magistrates, figured it was time to bring the role back.

Strongman bypasses protection. Deflector isn't protection, it's effectively redirection, so no it wouldn't pierce it. If Pie had Strengthened the NK, then the Deflector would have been nullified.

Endgame's up.

Town wins!

1st place: Town (Pie, Thoth, Luna, Banana, Rex, Mikal, Mag1c)

2nd place: Scum (Wylted, Magoroth)

Setup and Night Actions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1niRfIL8FkBSSc-NUNepFLUKQ884Ly48LmLlK6L4G2j8/edit?usp=sharing

Being absent was scum's biggest problem this game. Life gets busy and it seems like that really affected both Magoroth and Wylted throughout much of this game. Very little posting DP1, either in game or in the scum chat, so when the CFD happened, it was all crickets on my end. Wylted didn't even know Magoroth had been lynched and I didn't see any posts from Magoroth afterward. It's a pretty disappointing way for scum to go out. I was planning to sub Magoroth out after the first DP ended, but obviously that didn't happen. In the future, if something like this happens where you just can't see yourself being active for a couple of days (particularly if you're scum), just best to let the mod know.

And yeah, losing his character was a big blow to scum. Loss of the Rolestopper and the False Inventor I'd included. You can see the roles that using those Grimoires would have applied to the target, I think that could've been fun.

As for Wylted, yeah, he got a fake character and role claim, but they were never tested in game. Just straight up claimed his character. That's not surprising and Ubel was probably expected to be town here, but the Lie Detector claim was a big gambit that massively backfired. Made it so that it was heads up between Wylted and Thoth, which meant no one else had to claim, which meant the Spell Copying role was useless NP2. Didn't help that the Lie Detector role is infamously hard to manipulate, would've been worth asking me some questions about that one before putting it out there.

Not that it matters at this point, but the theme split was anyone who had ever teamed up with Frieren as town and anyone who hadn't as scum. Hence Serie and Ubel. The fake claim was Sense, though I had a list I randomized. I did leave out some big players like Eisen and Fern from this game, so there were opportunities there.

Not really a town MVP per se, but the CFD in DP1 was pivotal, so I'll give it to Luna for driving that wagon over Magoroth.

As for balance, I'd say this was just a little scumsided. I gave town ways to interfere with the NK, but Wylted's Strongman could pierce all of them except for Mikal's Deflector. I put all the investigative roles on Mikal as well, so losing him would have been a big deal if both scum had survived into DP2. Luna's role couldn't prevent the NK, and with Rex's Magistrate, there could be some fuckery to prevent lynches in play, particularly if Wylted used it. Not a lot of ways to obviously reduce POE with only Rex's role being obviously confirmable, and with the Odd Night White Mage for Banana, protection targets couldn't shift every night.

Anyway, appreciate any feedback on the setup.

Thoth was lynched! He was... innocent!

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Thoth (4/4): RexFavilla (p#80), wylted (p#145), Lunatic (p#172), Mag1cman (p#175)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (2): Banana, Thoth

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⚠️ Thoth has reached the lynch threshold. Hammer appears to be p#175.

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Thoth (3/4): RexFavilla (p#80), wylted (p#145), Lunatic (p#172)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (3): Banana, Mag1cman (p#115), Thoth

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Thoth (2/4): RexFavilla (p#80), wylted (p#145)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic (p#150), Mag1cman (p#115), Thoth

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Thoth (2/4): RexFavilla (p#80), wylted (p#145)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman (p#115), Thoth

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Thoth (2/4): RexFavilla (p#80), wylted (p#145)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman (p#115), Thoth

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Thoth (2/4): wylted (p#45), RexFavilla (p#80)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman (p#115), Thoth

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Thoth (2/4): wylted (p#45), RexFavilla (p#80)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman (p#115), Thoth

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Thoth (3/4): wylted (p#45), RexFavilla (p#80), Mag1cman (p#97)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (3): Banana, Lunatic, Thoth

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Thoth (2/4): wylted (p#45), RexFavilla (p#80)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman (p#84), Thoth

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Thoth (3/4): wylted (p#45), RexFavilla (p#80), Mag1cman (p#81)

Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Not Voting (3): Banana, Lunatic, Thoth

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Mag1cman (1/4): ILikePie5 (p#6)

Thoth (1/4): wylted (p#45)

Not Voting (5): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman, RexFavilla, Thoth

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day phase ends in 1 day, 12 hours.

We enter DP2 with heavy hearts. The elven race, already so few in number, has now lost another two members. One had to be removed, the Living Grimoire herself having become a danger to so many around her. The other, despite having survived so many brushes with death and even the Demon King himself, finds herself at the mercy of a more powerful opponent while vulnerable in the night.

Lynched:

Magoroth -

You are Serie. One of the oldest known characters and a Mage with such an expansive knowledge of magic you are known as the Living Grimoire, you are a legend in your time. You have taken many apprentices and prize ambition in those around you. You are the manipulative JOAT.

Living Grimoire: You can hand one of the following three Grimoires to anyone else during the NP. Your target will be given an option to use them and no information on what the Grimoire will do. They will have to use it as their sole night action, and it will last the duration of the NP. All of these roles are negative utility, titles may or may not indicate their effects.

Titles:

Sleep soundly

Locate family remains

Making clothes clean and spotless

Mana Concealment (2X): You have completely mastered limiting and concealing your mana output to the point that scant few Mages can detect the difference. You are the Ninja. Roles that would detect your movement during the NP will show that you have not moved.

Barrier Magic (1X): You are talented with creating gigantic, largely impenetrable barriers. This is a Rolestopper. You can select any target and make them unable to be targeted by any night action.

Died in the Night:

Mikal -

You are Frieren. A storied elven Mage who joined the Hero Party that succeeded in killing the Demon King, you have since learned to treasure many of the moments and people in your long life. You are obsessed with obtaining new and varied grimoires, treasuring those spells with niche appeal. You are the JOAT. You win with Town.

Mana Detection (1X Tracker)

Sensing (1X Watcher)

Defensive Magic (1X Deflector)

1. ILikePie5
2. RexFavilla
3. Lunatic
4. Mag1cman
5. Banana
6. Wylted
7. Thoth

With 7 players alive, it takes 4 votes to reach majority for a lynch. Plurality lynches are in effect, so if no one reaches 4 votes, the DP will end with a lynch on whomever has the most votes. This day phase will end on Sunday, 5/20/26 at 10:00 PM EST. 

Note: Banana cannot vote this DP nor be voted herself. The game would still automatically register her votes and votes against her, but I will not count those votes in the final vote count.

Magoroth was lynched! He was... guilty!

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STOP POSTING. Just got home, need to look this over.

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Magoroth (4/5): RexFavilla (p#432), wylted (p#27), ILikePie5 (p#446), Lunatic (p#339)

ILikePie5 (2/5): Thoth (p#436), Mikal (p#421)

Thoth (1/5): Mag1cman (p#374)

Not Voting (2): Banana (p#135), Magoroth

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase has ended.