wylted

I didn't think so. I think it points to a team like thoth, mago.


Maybe whiteflame because whiteflame is busy and his input might be limited


Mago as scum gives me pause because I don't know that the stupid reaction test on whiteflame occurs if he is scum.


Pie I thought was soft claiming an investigative role earlier but I don't think it's possible to be investigative now. He did say he would claim if mharman claimed so we just need to wait for that to occur or push it. He has acted like town though.

wylted

Honestly the mistake isn't even that suspicious but I think we ended in the same space due to his response.



Anyway I think we are at the point where we won't actually get more than 3 votes on him at any point and while that's enough to likely get the lynch. I don't see any reason to think Lunatic is town


unvote VTL Lunatic


If you can recruit somebody else to getting his claim or a lynch I can come back but I think we can just progress the game in another way. One that allows from some negotiation between separate factions of town

wylted

There's this thing in poker you could take advantage of in some people's personality. I made a lot of money from these type of people. They are called the "table police" what happens is you bully the table just pounding on them with bets until the officer whom you already pegged as an officer stands up to you being a bully. The problem is, against the officer you only play your best shit. So he takes a stand and you take his stack because you do have a hand against him. I think mharman is just standing up to the table bully as scum. He doesn't have a hand but at some point it grates on you that pie is leading the town, or you perceive him to be. Mharmans stance is fake emotion and it's him trying to be the table cop to protect the scum team

wylted

Is it worth me town confirming myself or should it wait?


I think only whiteflame has me in his POE but just want your opinion. If mharman is scum and I am starting to think he is than the scum team. Knows my role already

wylted

So steel man rex's position. You were waffling at the end with the intention of hammering last minute to say "hey look I tried to avoid it" but once the link claim happens you lose that opportunity so you made a quick decision. Your response to that steel manned argument makes no sense and the caps are sily

wylted

My personal case for being town is that I am town. I don't need to attack any case on me or logic. See how easy that is and if anyone gets three votes on me I will just claim. No big deal. I don't see the issue here

wylted
So your argument is that I chose not to hammer Thoth before he claimed, out of fear that he might claim and ruin a wagon on him?


Why are you using such terrible logic. I mean I know you can spot a strawman. You have spotted them in your debates so why is it that you are using one?


I thought you were town even coming into seeking your claim but this I think has fully evaporated.


Do you want to claim anything results wise or anything like that before you get lynched to see if it saves you?

wylted
one more time: I entered the thread with a chance to hammer Thoth on low time, BEFORE he entered to claim. Why didn't I hammer them?


I noticed how you are attacking logic instead of providing reasons you are town but that point was literally addressed. It looks opportnistic from your vantage point if you do it prior to that but once he claims than the lynch easily falls apart due to it being a main character so you do a fake CC before anyone has a chance to unvote. So you are literally lying about nobody addressing any incentive you theoretically could have there but it brings up another point.



We don't have to know your reasoning. We aren't mind readers, something can feel scummy and that's good enough. Your entire case on pie is that he doesn't care that there is a logical explanation for your behavior he cares more that it's. More likely scum motivated than the provided reasoning being correct. It's a dumb case on pie regardless of your or his affiliation

wylted
Scum would've hammered before he claimed... that's my whole point.


Let's just say we should 100% be hunting through behavior and anyone who puts Thoth in the town pile for a claim is being unreasonable .

wylted

Pies theory is that you felt it would look scummy if you hammered but once he claimed link than it would flip the lynch so you had to act fast.


You having the opportunity to lynch doesn't really answer what his theory is suggesting. I wouldn't have found it scummy for hammering but that doesn't change that others may have