Apocalypse Mafia - DP3

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/26/2026 at 8:29 PM (post #38)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/26/2026 at 6:11 PM (post #12)

Well I was hoping for some solid results last night, but nothing. I am Nuclear War, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). I am the cop. Justification is all about deterrence cold war era doctrine that says if 1 party uses nukes, the other will retaliate in kind and both parties will be destroyed. Maintaining nuclear deterrence depended on intelligence, early warning systems, and the ability to identify an enemy's actions before responses were made which is why I am cop. Thought the justification was kind of a stretch at first until I seen other people's justifications lol.

Night One I investigated Whiteflame, Night Two I investigated Kohai.

Both are innocent.

I am going to assume mafia have some sort of counter to Cop, so take these with a grain of salt.

Why did you choose WF and Kohai each night

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/89/apocalypse-mafia---dp3?comment_number=29

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/26/2026 at 4:22 PM (post #6)

Alright, cards on the table:

My role is called a Contact Counter. The way it works is that I target someone, and I get a count for the number of people who are in their contact chain. My visit counts towards that chain. So, for example, if I used it on myself and no one targeted me, it's a chain of 1. If I used it on someone else who didn't visit anyone, it's a chain of 2. If my target does visit someone, it's a chain of 3. I got a whole list of possible results based on various interactions after asking several questions of Bullish, so if people want to know them, I can go through it.

The long and short of it: I used my night actions on Kohai NP1 and Vader NP2. I chose two players who claimed roles that did not visit, since picking a target who did visit someone else would just confirm that they had visited someone, not who they visited or why. Both Kohai and Vader had chains of two, meaning that, absent any fuckery, I confirmed that Kohai did not visit anyone NP1 and Vader did not visit anyone NP2.

What is the justification between character and role?

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/26/2026 at 9:31 PM (post #54)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/26/2026 at 10:57 PM (post #51)

What’s your justification

Ice-IX functions by seeding, transforming sources of water or ice into Ice-IX (which has a way higher melting temperature than normal ice). Effectively, because it literally comes into contact with water molecules and spreads along that path, I am the contact counter.

NVM found it

Got questions for all of yall.

Pie:

If you're town, who are the two scum right now, and why? I want an actual pairing, not just a POE.

If someone else, say me, was in your shoes and asked someone who visited them np1, would you be suspicious of them?

Kohai:

I am not sure I am a fan of how easily you are using results to clear yourself. If you think there's a GF/Lawyer, who do you think it is and why? If pie and me were both to exist in this game, you have to admit that increases the likelihood of one of these roles existing. I would say you look best from whiteflames result, assuming he's not just scum with you.

You went from considering Pie/Vader to basically saying it's exactly Pie/Vader if Whiteflame isn't GF. What specifically makes Vader more likely than Pie's other possible partners?I

If Pie flips scum, what do you think his relationship with you looks like in hindsight? I'm particularly interested in your lack of a stronger reaction to his early pressure.

Whiteflame:

Out of Pie/Vader, Pie/Kohai, and Vader/Kohai, which team do you think is most likely right now?

Do you think Kohai is actually town, or are you just saying his two checks make him difficult to lynch? Those aren't quite the same thing.

Vader:

You seem pretty locked into Pie/Kohai. What's the strongest piece of evidence for that pairing in your opinion?

If Kohai is actually town because of my result, who is your second scum alongside Pie?

What is your full scope of whiteflame? It seems as if you have accepted him as town, am I wrong in that assumption?

That's all for now.