There’s really nothing else I have to say to Fiona at this point.
If people want my logic for picking that quote, I can give it, but it hardly seems necessary.
My only concern is that he might be the Jester. Outing himself like this fits the MO and there are two potential TP roles that turn into Jesters when another player dies.
or you can just claim the post later. the idea that scum could cc me on it for the win was did not occur to me when i typed that
Really? You mean for the role where you couldn’t directly reveal your identity in the post, the only stipulation in the role, it didn’t even occur to you to breadcrumb that it was you who posted it with literally context clues? Really?
like I said, you don't need a 1000iq strat. I didn't expect there to be a strategy element to something so simple
Obvious strategy is to reveal yourself somehow through the post. That’s not “a 1000iq strat”, it’s basic. How is this at all specific to you?
Can you confirm if this was an original post written by you or was this a copy and paste from somewhere else?
I copy-pasted it tbh. Was looking for quotes that fit my criteria and I didn’t want to just copy this out word for word when I had the whole thing handy.
It was a shitpost I came across the other day and thought it was funny. that's literally all there is to it
So you, as one of the few absolutely confirmable roles in this game, chose to just grab an anime quote for no other reason than it’s a funny shitpost? No aim to confirm yourself, just shits and giggles? Like, guys, if you want my reasoning, I’ll give it but this is just… wow.
I haven't been active because I've been working on a personal project. this is stupid.
this is also unfalsifiable. There's no way I can prove you didn't post it any more than you can prove I didn't post it. but you don't see me making that argument
I can walk you through my entire thought process for choosing that post. Would genuinely love to hear yours.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Deirdre wrote:
Knowing that I’ll probably be NK’d, I think this is Fiona falling on their sword. They were virtually guaranteed to be the lynch without claiming something juicy and their goal was just to out who the actual Regent was and have their partners potentially score some towncred by being on this lynch.
One for one trade always benefits the town. Too bad there isn’t really any protection roles though. Or like a watcher. Don’t think anything can be done about it unfortunately
It is what it is.
lol ur trying so hard
We both know I don’t need to try. This isn’t a question. Love to see literally anyone find a behavioral reason why you’re town, or why the obvious anime quote that only I called out for much of the DP didn’t come from me.
A-Fiona wrote:
A-Deirdre wrote:
I know my shitposts
Yeah, nice try.
Do you have any idea how many shitposts I've come across scrolling around on reels?
I’m sure you have, I don’t see you or anyone else in this game pulling this specific quote from this specific anime. If you would, color me impressed, but you didn’t, so…
Knowing that I’ll probably be NK’d, I think this is Fiona falling on their sword. They were virtually guaranteed to be the lynch without claiming something juicy and their goal was just to out who the actual Regent was and have their partners potentially score some towncred by being on this lynch.
I know my shitposts
Yeah, nice try.
Actuallly thought you were the Jailer but that makes more sense lol
Wouldn’t have eliminated Flora if I was, honestly.
My vote’s staying right where it is for the rest of this DP. I have no idea why Fiona would basically just out themselves like this, but here we are. Independent of who they are, I don’t think anyone in this game has more than a passing awareness of Gintama, let alone a major quote from it handy.
Alright, shit to unpack.
Let’s start with the obvious: Fiona’s scum. I posted that message, obviously. I’m the Regent. Pretty sure Gerard almost immediately clocked that when he responded to me earlier. I’m fine just straight up CCing this, even if it means I’m almost certainly the NK.
Wrong account
This is a pretty pointless argument. Circumstances are what they are this game, and while identities have mostly been revealed, we can move forward as Magoroth has laid out. If you guys want to argue about how this should have gone down, save it for the endgame.
Meant to tag you.
For the time being, my vote is on you. Claim when you get on, you're at L-2.
VTL: A-Fiona
So, to recap, we have a likely town Jail Officer (possible Interrogator, but I think that's increasingly unlikely since that would mean scum have 3 different modes of killing targets all accessible in a single DP/NP cycle) who killed another town player, and scum have a Blackmailer who is set to kill Oberon by the end of the DP.
It's possible there are three scum players and a TP, but I think that would require them to be able to win with town and I can't see them being the Gunsmith (lot of killing roles around), so that would basically have to be the Associate.
It's also possible there are two scum players and a TP that's more of a wild card, in which case we've got a broader assortment of possibilities.
A-Oberon wrote:
Alright it's not technically a modkill, but it is a game mechanic related kill that has a certain amount of mod discretion. Either way I'm dying at the end of the DP.
And don't ask me why I'm dying, I *can't say*. All I can say is that I am a *victim*, and look at the role list, there's only 1 ability that can cause death during the day.
I'll have detailed thoughts later tonight.
Alright, so that's not good. If you are town, that would theoretically put us at 5-3 without the lynch or the NK, so... we could be at MYLO already. Great.
Does seem like a Blackmailer situation if I'm reading you correctly, and that you've already violated some demand that's been made of you.
I am sus of the whole Martin wagon. I give some pass to the pie wagon since I was shoving that pretty hard, but I also expected a scum or two to bandwagon me, so my take was even if pie was a mislynch we could use that wagon. Part of why I am so sus of Fiona. They had the worst reason on that wagon. Being inactive in one thing, they are willfully inactive and non participatory.
As someone who was on the Martin wagon, I don’t blame you for sussing anyone on it. Took me a while to come around to his perspective and even he had a light sus on me, apparently because he thought that was buddying. Wouldn’t blame him for that, I’ve done it as scum.
A-Llewella wrote:
A-Martin (4/7): A-Brand (p#1013), A-Flora (p#970), A-Caine (p#1141), A-Deirdre (p#991)
A-Flora (4/7): A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#1149), A-Martin (p#774), A-Fiona (p#980)
A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)
A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)
This is our starting place. Screw peoples feelings and gut reads. We should hunt through the trains. 2 confirmed town train flips with a secondary we can dig into reasoning before considering our mech situation that can make follow the leader work.
I'm fine starting with discussion of everyone on those wagons, though absence from the end of the DP isn't a free pass. I'm willing to give both Random and Oberon some credit for placing their votes elsewhere because both of them were justifying that to the end. I can't give that same credit to you or Bleys.
Sure we can make use of the rest of the time in the day phase. But yeah I don't like Fiona's behavior.
Fair read, valid place to start (assuming Fiona ever starts posting).
I say we lynch Fiona. They are not going to get replaced and they seem to have 0 interest in participating. I think they are just lurking and getting away with it.
I'm fine with lynching Fiona and if that's the plan, then getting more claims would be a net negative this DP. I'm a little hesitant to just go ahead with a lynch because someone's absent, but Fiona's sudden reappearance at the end of the last DP and sudden vote don't help their case. That being said, I still think it's worth getting what reads we can out of this DP and going from there.
We should re-evaluate. With the janitored flip, mass claim is no longer as effective as it could be..
I agree, though that's true for exactly one claim here. There are two other scum players and one TP who don't have access to a safe claim, and even the one scum player who got it may have just flipped another VT or gotten a role that may be disprovable. Not saying we just all out now, but I'd still consider it.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Deirdre wrote:
I'm going to be on a recording in a minute, but had a couple of thoughts I want to get out.
I really don't get the Julian NK. Beyond the fact that he hadn't claimed, which would lend itself to a Janitor, I wouldn't say he was a stand out at all. There might be something to his scumreads being a reason for it, though he's hardly the only one who was considering Fiona or Caine, especially coming off of the last DP.
Also, no one's mentioned it, but The King's Royal Herald posting one of the most famous lines from Gintoki Sakata from Gintama. Lol.
Who would be familiar with that reference besides you?
Anyone who is decently familiar with anime. Haven't seen Gintama myself, but it's one of the more famous lines in the series.
I'm going to be on a recording in a minute, but had a couple of thoughts I want to get out.
I really don't get the Julian NK. Beyond the fact that he hadn't claimed, which would lend itself to a Janitor, I wouldn't say he was a stand out at all. There might be something to his scumreads being a reason for it, though he's hardly the only one who was considering Fiona or Caine, especially coming off of the last DP.
Also, no one's mentioned it, but The King's Royal Herald posting one of the most famous lines from Gintoki Sakata from Gintama. Lol.
I’ll be more active this evening, got a few things to handle this afternoon. I get Pie’s idea for the massclaim and if we want to do alphabetical order as he suggested, I’ll try to be around on time to get mine in. I’ll need to revisit my reads from last DP, but like Pie, Fiona and Caine are my main concerns. I can’t dismiss Llewella or Brand, either, both of whom I had reasons to sus last DP.
A-Gerard wrote:
Could be the interrogator as well, keep in mind. Pie seemed convince it was a Jailer though
That would effectively mean scum has two NKs, which seems like a lot. Also, I’d like to hear the logic behind killing Pie. I know he said to just kill him, but 7-3 is significantly worse than 8-3 and I’d like to understand how that decision came down.
I’m dumb, just saw that the Jailer executed Pie.
