If you are about to die and are town please voice anything you feel the town needs to know.
If you are about to die and are town please voice anything you feel the town needs to know.
A-Oberon wrote:
Alright boys and girls I just got confirmation that I'm getting modkilled at the end of this DP so can we just treat me like confirmed town
I have a problem with how hard this community angle shoots.
If this is true I will ask the mod to confirm it but holy fuck lets just play a game without going on OOG angleshooty tangents and if this is one lets clear it up with the mod instead of making a mess out of the day phase talking about it.
New disguiser code that is hand solvable-
TmNeVlRmNePkN
My favorite number is 25 today and is the landmine for the AI cucks.
2071461991611931131
This was my disguiser code. Its hand solvable using prime numbers. (Even if you want to question those you can hand solve prime numbers as well)
Its the number of the prime number followed by the prime number itself with a blocker to break the AI cucks in this server.
So
20 71 (71 is the 20th prime number)
46 199 (199 is the 46th prime number)
16 1193 (1193 is not the 16th prime number, but its the 16th listed in the Wikipedia table between 181-200 on that table. Breaks any AI cheating fuckery and was the landmine)
11 31 (31 is the 11th prime number)
This is my anti disguiser code solve.
Damn. Never seen Mag this pissed and I have known them for many years.
Rules are rules. We should thank them for hosting and get with the program.
I will re-state my goal
Saying in very few words as much as I can and not wall posting.
I have said a lot more than you give me credit for as you demand more.
A-Gerard wrote:
I suspect Flora as well. I have given pools of players I do not want touched today and pools I am willing to eliminate. I have not shoved either but my vote is a call for attention on one. What do you want from me?
Honesty would be a start. Most of this could have been avoided if you just came right out and said "My life is hectic right now, don't expect me to be able to invest as much effort as I did in the last game". I would have understood. Others would have understood. You told us you had court in the sign ups of the last game, and we gave you plenty of grace for that. Now I have to sit here and wonder if you lied about doing some self challenge play for nefarious reasons, when we've seen you be honest about your activity and posting schedule in the past. The whole brain fuck was for nothing.
Also the other thing that doesn't make sense to me is how you were doing it. Like you were still online last night and typing to me, but were specifically avoiding giving any sort of read or game direction. I would have accepted "I don't know yet" as an answer. Most people have null reads in their read lists. It's day phase one, not knowing how to read everyone is fine. But the benefit to asking for reads and direction isn't just to prod you for activity, it's to start making behavioral links between you and the people on your reads. Say we lynch Flora, and they are scum. Now that I know your stance on them I can say you reading them as scum early could earn you town cred. Having this information last night would prove more helpful in that scenario, before the wagon on him began. Now if he flips scum and you don't add your voice to him until later, it looks more like mafia would be willing to bus because Flora seems more like a lost cause. Just an example. I don't have to explain associative tells to you, you clearly understand them because you pressed thoth for them after we lynched him in the last game so you know what I mean here.
Well I am not going for town cred. I am putting as much effort into this game as I did the last one. Just this one you do not get the inside understanding of why.
You now get to see how everyone else in the game felt about my play that game. My only current play is drawing Bleys into the conversation.
The most critical pieces I can give is that LW's and codes should be done every day.
One counters disguise and the other enables what may be the towns only invest. I can not say this enough times.
I suspect Flora as well. I have given pools of players I do not want touched today and pools I am willing to eliminate. I have not shoved either but my vote is a call for attention on one. What do you want from me?
Oh, And if Brand gets rid of the 11 year old BDSM thing I will get rid of my vomit avatar. (Positive thing for the world...)
You want to see me absolutely power town unhinged mode. I get that. This is a game I expected to start like a month and a half ago and have real life obligations. Its not gona happen. Take what I give you and stop pushing me for what you want or just kill me for not giving it to you and I will shrug about it post game like I did last time.
A-Gerard wrote:
I think you keep demanding a specific thing you want from me that I am not giving you, and you are ignoring the things of solid value that I am giving you.
A specific thing? Give me anything lol.
I am not trying to be hostile, but I generally make up my mind before a game starts the play style I will use. Sorry if you dislike my choice.
Do you think it's a reasonable excuse for a soccer player to play a match with his legs tied together so he can challenge himself? Is it reasonable for his team mates to dislike that decision since it effects them as well? It's a team game. Maybe you can still score a goal with your feet tied together but its going to be harder for your team to play around you and interact with you.
You don't seem to care about inhibiting your team though, so I don't see much to discuss about it, and really just have to focus on analyzing if this is behavior someone who is a part of my soccer team would do, or if they are a double agent working for the other team.
Well let me put this in more real terms.
Tomorrow I have a day where I have 5 meetings. By tomorrow I mean the first one starts in about 7 hours.
Can I go super try hard in a game all out? Yes. Some games I recognize I have life obligations and say "I will voice what I can in few words given a community does not bother reading walls"
Is that Selfish or is that just giving what I can given irl obligations to the game and what the community can handle reading?
A-Flora wrote:
A-Llewella wrote:
Your wagon seems like where it should be. You presented a plan arguing a mech crunch where there was none and have constantly shoved people for role reveals in a game I over and over ask how reveals help solve. I question your intentions and am only on Bleys to keep them in the situation for EoD
Ive already explained why you’re wrong, and you haven’t said anything. It’s objectively true that scum are likely to claim Vanilla this early in the game. If you disagree, explain to me how.
I feel like I have argued that exact position. If I expanded on the dynamics I would just be coaching scum how to make claims even more useless. I’m not sure what you disagree on
A-Brand wrote:
This site has info on a bunch of ciphers and allows you to encode text right there.
Nice link. Im sticking hard within the hosts requirement that it must be solvable by hand and rather enjoy making such unsolvable puzzles but I will have to dig through that when I have time.
I will push yet again that every single player should make a code every single day this game.
Your wagon seems like where it should be. You presented a plan arguing a mech crunch where there was none and have constantly shoved people for role reveals in a game I over and over ask how reveals help solve. I question your intentions and am only on Bleys to keep them in the situation for EoD
Brand did not look great early game but the focus on them felt extra. Yes #538 was an awful post but one I also tried to calm down the mob on. They were not THAT bad to be such a lead wagon. I refuse to consider their replacement timing in a read.
Im watching their replacement for the moment.
A-Gerard wrote:
I get that you know I could go full power town and want that. Im not doing it.
I am kind of beyond caring at this point. If you want to be hostile just don't be surprised that I am hostile back at you, after giving you the benefit of the doubt. I have accepted that you are going to meta game this, now I just have to decide if I want to lynch you for it. I know it won't prove a point with you, but you actively aren't helping town either, and if you are scum I am going to be extra annoyed for giving you a pass for it.
I think you keep demanding a specific thing you want from me that I am not giving you, and you are ignoring the things of solid value that I am giving you.
I am not trying to be hostile, but I generally make up my mind before a game starts the play style I will use. Sorry if you dislike my choice.
Random, Gerard, Martin and Deirdre I am not interested in for D1. Brand, Bleys, Oberon and Flora I am.
I will again say every single player should daily do codes to break disguise functions.
And that towns primary invest may be the coroner so every player should post a last will.
If we are gona be real my hard in depth wall posts were barely worth talking about before. I may as well try small tik tok attention span posts this time around.
I get that you know I could go full power town and want that. Im not doing it. My character is an aloof distant dis-involved person in the flavor. Actually google described them as 'pale and moist' which... Lol
I have given quite a bit. Just not the specific things you want as you ask for them.
A-Gerard wrote:
Has Llewella been this unhelpful the whole DP?
They are doing some weird self challenge where they only post half as much as they want to. They have also gone out of their way to ignore any questions asked about their reads, or their ideas for progressing the day phase. So I guess the answer is yes.
And people act like they do not understand what I mean when I say you are shading. This is some bullshit.
A-Caine wrote:
So in a 12 player game where 9 are town and 3 are scum we have at minimum 2 vanilla town. This makes me think we have far more vanillas than actual PRs.
Got a crier that can self confirm and a jailor who can be verified but counter claimed. A 1 shot invest, 1 shot vig, rb, and someone that can detect LW tampering. Weak town line up.
Lack of invest roles makes me feel the two confirming ones are more likely.
Personal request- Change your avatar.
Mine is throwing up after seeing the 11 year old BDSM thing. (Literally why I made my avatar what it is)
A-Flora wrote:
This whole post makes zero sense. What are you saying
That your plan arguing 33% chance of scum within pools does not look above random voting.
That claims in this game are worthless to town for future analysis without role cops or trackers/lookouts/detectives to verify.
That there is no mech crunch here I see and revealing VT's does help scum.
I am more saying that its a bad play as either alignment more than saying that its too scummy to be scum. That your grabbing intention that can exist there but I would hesitate to dive very deep on that.
People should stop with the claim stuff. How in your heads do you solve this game using claims outside of wanting scum to hard CC paired roles?
The only role cop function also gets a perfect alignment check which makes it a moot point.
Our real invest is gona be the Coroner. Every player should make codes (Hand solvable by mod demand) to counter disguise, and last wills. Confirmation that a last will was altered is confirmation a slot was messed with by non-town alignment.
Assuming normal odds is grabbing random VT claims and declaring 1/3 chance of scum any better than RNG? I dont see it.
I do see great value for scum getting VT claims out of the town to narrow down their kill target.
A-Flora wrote:
I want your thoughts on my strategy
(Cutting back to earlier)
Statistically the odds of scum claiming Vanilla are high. I’m going to stick to my strategy. You agreed with Caine. I just asked Martin to claim cause I thought they were someone else. But even assuming that half of town (let’s say 6) is VT and all 3 scum claiming Vanilla, you’re looking at a 33% chance of outright catching scum
So 12 players. Assuming 2-4 scum. 4 scum if scum team is nerfed with a lost wolf and weaker roles being 2+lost and neutral thats town sided. 3 otherwise.
Considering claim value we at best have a 1 shot alignment+role cop. Nothing else to verify movement and even citizens can visit. This makes the only value of claims coming from counter claims of specific roles sorting neutral/town pairings with externally conformable mechanics.
I do not see value in sorting VT claims as we have no ability to do so mechanically.
Not interested in for today:
Random- Good positions all around. Only concern I had was their level of confidence in #193
Gerard- The frustration dealing with me looked good enough for me to not consider them at all for D1
Martin- Very odd VT claim. Could be apathy. Enough original takes in their read wall they should not be the elemination
Deirde- Slippery one right there. I may never trust them but zero D1 interest
Its a bad play. But its openly bad to the point the optics look awful. Would not be a position a scum would want to openly say.
I'm more concerned with how little they have voiced outside of Anon, OGI, and claim ideas.