Well, it is.
The Church got many things wrong that it corrected later. Vatican II vs I vs prior and all.
It is about as 'infallible', as a banana is yellow. Overall sure, but not always.
It is rare to meet a fellow Cath-thinking flat earther.
Usually they are Protestants, Muslims or Pagans.
Ty for your vote.
I was presenting the case that ti believe in God with capital G necessitates disbelief in another god, even one with capital G. That is the reason I built that part to my case.
I am not in America nor a citizen of it. I see America as a useful ally of the European nation(s) I am loyal to (I will not specify) and also to Israel. Trump happens to be the leader.
I am not a fan of how he carries himself, his lack of manners so on and so forth. I can see many reasons to not admire the man. However, he's the leader of the West's most powerful member nation. We do have to respect the power he wields, if nothing else, regardless of politics. You're Italian, I am sure you understand that useful allies don't always have the best leaders. ;)
I meant vote Pro*
I can barely see myself voting Pro unless its very onesided.
I know Con's side is objectively correct.
I am fully biased towards Con especially as I have decent Old Testament knowledge.
I will voye hut U dint think Ilk be avke ti vote Connunless it was very onesided.
So, I would rather not vote.
Pls see below
True. Celibacy needs to be voluntary. I get the semantics.
I report the vote of Fauxlaw. I do not find he sufficiently explored my arguments whatsoever, he did also not explain why me saying Pro's definition is a part of belief but not entirely what belief is, lost me the debate. He mischaracterises what I conceded.
I literally quoted from a book in our last debate.
Marxism is an evil plague. Once someone believes it, they become lazy, dangerous and/or toxic. Always.
Marxism in a nutshell.
This AI stuff is stupid on the flip side because some people's natural expressiveness, eloquence and flow of language is similar to AI. So you are forcing them to be at a disadvantage.
It's so utterly stupid that if you write like AI you have had to completely alter your way of talking and being.
If that police abuse is enough to convince you to be against Israel, be my guest. I don't really have to defend that any more than a German has to defend Nazis or that a Pakistani has to defend grooming gangs.
Lord have mercy on us all.
As Con, my duty was to lay groundwork to explain why Israel is essential and how antizionism is linked to antisemitism often as well as nullify any key points Pro raised.
An Instagram video that wasn't remotely elaborated on at all was irrelevant to the debate until Pro made it relevant.
I accept your critiques but I would do it the same twice over (with better formatting and maybe some more 'rambling' in Round 2 for finesse).
I am not going to take some Instagram clickbait nonsense as a serious threat.
I tested if I can delete or edit a vote and it went wrong or right as I can do neither pls delete my vote sorry
Haredi have many forms. Some are fabtastic citizens in fact the most devout Jews are often this type and at times very Zionist.
Then you get the extremist fundamentalist type, that type hate even many Jews that dont adhere to Orthodoxy.
Please read these 2 fully
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/09/lebanon-attack-on-freedoms-targets-lgbti-people-repressive-legislation-unlawful-crackdown/
https://www.humandignitytrust.org/country-profile/lebanon/
Show me evidence please?
Show me any pride parade at all in those nations or show me Jews being there treated peacefully.
Turkey wants to remain in EU so it has some elements you mention.
Lebanon and Jordan have no such elements.
Is that a joke?
You think Jews are treated well in those nations?
Maybe Turkey slightly only because they wish to remain in EU.
The main place that Arabs and Jews coexist peacefully in that region is in Israel.
In West Bank theyre barely peaceful to Jews and in Gaza they literally kill Jews.
Do you know what the word Haredi means?
The Jews that spit at the Christians are the exact Haredim that you said are anti Zionist, by the way
How would you eliminate Israel?
That sounds like actual genocide.
Is eliminating Israel not genocide?
I repeat 2 million Gazabs live there. 65k or so died and 1/3 of them are Hamas and/or directly Hamas-affliated.
Out of 2 million 65k with 1/3 direct enemies.
You are twisting what I said.
These children were literally in the exact spot needed to strike at Hamas. Or which children are you referring to?
How can Hamas be permanently dismantled and eliminated?
Lay out your plan for me.
How is fault determined?
There are 2 million Gazans.
Over a full 2 years of war, 65k or so have died and 1/3rd or so are Hamas confirmed. Haams is so huge that there are many thousands of them. Its not as small as most outside Israel think it is.
It is very sad and unfortunate that children have died. Some of them activelt were helping Hamas and Hamas had convinced these children to be frontline for them.
This is Hamas' fault.
Meanwhile, Israel has heloed vaccinate kids, even helicoptered children needing specialist care out of Israel and Gaza.
When the west reports this:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/03/middleeast/israel-gaza-habiba-medical-evacuation-jordan-intl
If the media is Leftist like CNN is, it forgets to mention IDF themselves facilitated that helicopter.
I am pro-life. I am a Christian and not the casual kind. To me, it's very simple on abortion; it's murder.
if killing a 5 year old is worse than killing a 20 year old, then killing a fetus is worse than killing a 5 year old by identical logic.
