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GreatfulGoy

He was making a very extreme metaphor for how much we must hate sinning in an adultrous/lustful manner. This was a reply to someone that called me a fake Christian (or even non Christians that claimed this about Christianity) one of the 'brood of vipers'. I was disproving him and that I did.


One of the reasons sola scriptura (which protestants adhere to) is very problematic is they read things and assume that the first literal interpretation is always correct. That isn't how you are meant to read all parts of the Bible, it's only how you're meant to read most of it. In that part, he was certainly being metaphorical and speaking in hyperbole. However what is literal, is you should rather lose and eye and hand than end up in Hell. That is the real key point he was making.

GreatfulGoy

Did your copypasta cherrypicking feel good while doing it? Did you forget the rest of the Holy Bible?


Matthew 5:27-30

27 Adultery.[a]“You have heard that it was said of old: ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that anyone who looks with lust at a woman has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is preferable for you to lose one part of your body than to have your whole body thrown into Gehenna. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is preferable for you to lose one of your limbs than to have your whole body thrown into Gehenna.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%205%3A27-30&version=NCB



Proverbs 23:20-21

20 Do not consort with drunkards[a]
    or be one of those who gorge themselves with meat.
21 For the drunkard and the glutton will become impoverished,
    and stupor will clothe them in rags.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%2023%3A20-21&version=NCB


Hosea 4

God Puts an Adulterous People on Trial

Chapter 4


A Deep Corruption of Morals
1 Hear the word of the Lord,
    people of Israel,
for the Lord has decreed an indictment
    against the inhabitants of the land.
There is no faithfulness or loyalty,
    nor any knowledge of God in the land.
2 Instead, people swear oaths and break them;
    they lie, murder, steal, and commit adultery,
    with never-ceasing bloodshed.
3 Therefore, the land is in mourning,
    and all who dwell in it languish,
including the wild beasts and the birds of the air;
    even the fish of the sea are perishing.
My Quarrel Is with You, O Priests
4 But let no one protest
    or make accusations;
    my quarrel is with you, O priests.
5 You shall stumble in the daylight,
    while the prophets will stumble with you at night,
    and I will destroy your mother.
6 My people are perishing
    for want of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
    I will reject you as my priests.
And since you have forsaken the law of your God,
    I will also reject your children.
7 The more the number of priests increased,
    the more they sinned against me,
    turning their glory into shame.
8 They feed on the sins of my people;
    they are insatiable in their hunger for iniquity.
9 The priests and the people will share the same fate;
    I shall punish them for their conduct
    and repay them for their deeds.
10 They will eat but never be satisfied;
    they will engage in prostitution but never have children,
because they have abandoned the Lord
11     to devote themselves to immorality.
Idolatry and Debauchery
Wine, both old and new,
    deprives my people of understanding.
12 They consult a piece of wood for advice,
    and their divining rod[a] provides the answers they seek.
For a spirit of promiscuity has led them astray,
    and their immorality causes them to forsake their God.
13 They offer sacrifice on the mountaintops
    and burn incense on the hills,
beneath oak and poplar and terebinth
    because the shade they afford is pleasant.
14 I shall not punish your daughters for becoming prostitutes
    or your daughters-in-law for committing adultery.
For your men themselves consort with harlots
    and offer sacrifice with temple prostitutes;
    a people thus devoid of understanding is doomed.
15 Though you, O Israel, play the whore,
    do not allow Judah to incur such guilt.
Do not come to Gilgal
    or go up to Beth-aven,
    and do not swear, “As the Lord lives!”[b]
16 For Israel is as stubborn as a heifer;
    will the Lord now feed them
    like lambs in a broad meadow?
17 Ephraim has associated with idols;
    let them alone.
18 When their drinking binge has ended,
    they indulge in sexual orgies,
    preferring lewdness to their glory.
19 The wind has carried them off in its wings,
    and their sacrifices will only bring them shame.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea%204&version=NCB

GreatfulGoy

I wasn't joking, I was making an analogy. KJU is leftist but the loving part is the clue.


You aren't truly a Christian if you support alcoholism, fornication and that vibe at the holiest day other than Easter for Western Christians (Eastern have alternate names and dates for both events, they often have Jan 7th or 6th as their Christmas day and their Easter is known as Pascha and isn't always even on a Sunday (they focus harder on matching up to a consistent date but it varies, not 100% sure about why, 4th-8th).

GreatfulGoy

No. This is far beyind that. Almostnall other languages use equivalents of happy and joyful with 0 alcoholism and degeneracy encouraged.


An exception isostScnadinavian languages. They use something more akin to merry/festive than happy. It is a word in between joyful and festive and implies partying hard and drinking.

GreatfulGoy

btw if you're not too paranoid about Google, Google Docs is the best solution. You can even stick to 1 doc for multiple debates, delete and replace the text and all.


It autosaves every 2 seconds or so.


The issue is this site doesn't paste well from the Docs, it messed up some formatting, will blank out images and quotes have to be entirely manually done.


It's still the best free option if you don't have Word or something.

GreatfulGoy

'Happy Christmas' is better.


Merry Christmas indeed implies filthy animals, drunk, fornicating, all of it. It's a toxic term that gained momentum in the anglosphere wrongly.

GreatfulGoy

I will not spend time on this on a holy day like Christmas Eve nor on Christmas Day.


I will say you are not correct due to the false dichotomy you created, however there is truth behind the lion-chaser concept you explained.


I will explain more later but leave you with one hierarchy I found is true for most women (again, you make the error of generalising all women):


  1. Alpha male hero type, genuinely intimidating but morally good consistently that scares off bullies without whining about retaliation, can endure being badmouthed by men and women alike without biting back harsh but still humbles people by sheer reputation and formidability = peak
  2. Guys who are tough to bully but also may be bystanders quite easily and/or be bullies to a select few (especially ones they demonise and justify as deserving victims)
  3. Bullies = beneath that no matter how 'alpha' or 'destroyer' they are.
  4. Victims that keep staying as victims and are morally good = offputting but tolerable, may 'grow on the woman' over time.
  5. Victims that are bland, neutral, hard to tell where they stand morally = less appealing.
  6. Victims that are evil in noticeable, blatant ways = repulsive to basically all women.

I won't justify it. I won't put more effort in until after Christmas day is fully over for the European timezones. Thanks.


For some women 4 can surpass 3.

GreatfulGoy

Let's agree that I upset you by what I said. I can be sorry for that outcome, not the other stuff and what I did was fine from Thoth's perspective I am presuming.


You got agitated, believed you had to right a wrong. You white-knighted and I have actually been like you there in other scenarios both online and irl where both people tell me to shut up and back off so I understand why you did it.


Therefore, the 'wrong' is that my behaviour upset others. However, at this point I must consider if it would even have been possible to deliver the same message in a less distressing way for those others. I don't know.

GreatfulGoy

Happy Christmas.


2 Timothy 2:23-26: Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels... the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.
1 Corinthians 4:13: When we are slandered, we answer gently. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment.
Titus 3:9: But avoid foolish debates, genealogies, quarrels, and disputes about the law, because they are unprofitable and worthless. 
GreatfulGoy

Sikhs do their own thing, I am not going to badmouth their little ethnoreligion. In many ways they're Noahides to Judaism without realising they are (search what a Noahide has to adhere to).


I really don't care about challenging Sikhism. They do their thing and keep it chill. Obviously, it's less chill if you're their family member and an apostate but nowhere near what Muslims do and in terms of disowning apostates (Islam may even 'honour kill' them or some sick stuff), religions like Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism more likely to do it than Sikhs, by far.


The main thing I don't get their full logic on the no hair cutting (even women are commanded to be hairy, they cover it up in clothing consistently so most non Sikhs don't notice unless the woman has moustache hair.


It isn't the same as saying 'don't clean shave', they basically mandate alack of grooming yet blatantly regularly groom their beards (just not shave it off) It even looks like they often trim it as it grows to maintain slick shaping.


Sikhism is a Punjabi ethnoreligion (Jews oftentimes wrongly state they're the only one, there are multiple ethnoreligions on Earth) what makes Jews unique is they use the same word for the ethnic member and religious adherent.


If you're not Punjabi and want to be Sikh, be sure you suit never shaving or barely any trimming ever. Yes, even pubic hair of any kind.


Yes. even back there.

GreatfulGoy

I made the right call, even told him where to find topics and already had provided a link for it earlier in the thread. He quit, realising I was correct and doubled down on it when you tried to white-knight him. You lost on every front here. You have not changed to any significant degree from the guy who did the things I said you did in my eyes but I am not the judge, God is.


I see you largely similar to how I saw you before. It's me who changed.

GreatfulGoy
So you are a minority even in the autistic community?

I wish he was but I have come to learn that I actually am an 'autist' that sides with those that generally avoid the autistic themselves.


Enough autistic people I have grown knowing irl proved to me that we actually are rarely the 'good guy/girl victim' we are portrayed to be (and I can tell they're autistic as I'm one of them, I pick up on it quite fast some explicitly I knew had the diagnosis, others I could just tell). Often, we are self-centred, insensitive and justify our tantrums by a disorder we actually can gradually lessen the symptoms of but actively choose not to.


We can never be non-autistic or non-prone to the additional stress, insensitive remarks we make etc but we can actively tone it down that is a choice. It takes learning coping mechanisms, avoiding triggers, learning to breathe deep when triggered and to definitely aim to at worst harm objects rather than humans with our frustration.


I have seen enough 'autists' in my life as an autist to realise that I do not recommend these 'autistic communities' that most do. To be stuck exclusively with other autistic people in a community (rather than just a family) would gradually drive one to become worse and worse socially and emotionally and feel one is entitled to stay that way.


I actively push myself to interact with non-autists both online and offline as they help regulate my understanding of what is currently politically correct, socially acceptable, how to act or not act etc.

GreatfulGoy
So says a boy of around 30 who sponges of his parents for a living.

That isn't the key thing, in my eyes.


It's that he's proud of it and brags about his willingness to keep it that way!


There is a difference between being ashamed about that situation and taking steps gradually to get employed and out of it, changing your life bit by bit vs wilfully staying that way.

GreatfulGoy
I think any priest who touches a boy in any way should no longer be a priest.

Honestly, this is correct. Them not defrocking the Priests was a major managerial error but the main reason it's hard to replace Catholic Clergy is that it takes multiple years of studying, is only open to males and requires vow of lifelong celibacy (you are meant to stay celibate even if defrocked because your vow is to God regardless of if the Pope and Bishops demote you).


This dissuades quite a few men to become Catholic Clergy.


Another significant issue is that Priests have a lot of dirt on their parishioners. The confessional booth is considered more sacred and secure than even a lawyer's confidentiality agreement. If the Priest gets instantly defrocked, they could tear people's lives apart, blackmail them and ruin the entire sanctity of the Confessional booth. By keeping them 'frocked' you keep them having something secular (reputation and position of power) to lose, so as not to permanently tarnish the sacred sanctity of the Sacrament of Reconciliation (AKA Confession).


That all said, the right move morally is to defrock them, you are right. Even if that leaves people with no Priest near them... it's an unfortunate sacrifice and fast-tracking a Deacon who isn't married to promotion or pulling back the celibacy rule (if married prior to becoming a Priest) may need to come into play. The earliest Popes were not celibate, this rule got introduced several Popes in.

GreatfulGoy
If stupid person knew why he is stupid, he wouldnt be stupid.
It actually takes high intelligence to be able to recognize stupidity.
Stupid people think that stupid is smart. they are stupid because they fail to recognize what stupid even is.


GreatfulGoy

You pasted some mafia comment by someone else btw.


You really are incapable of addressing arguments logically. You lash out, insult, degrade, abuse and all the while throwing that tantrum claim the other person is throwing it.


If you want a logical, mature discussion about MAGA and American white ethnonationalism, I am willing to have it. If not, at least do not pretend you are capable of it and seeking it.