Also equally fucked that there was school girls in pigtails moving to the song. May they never learn what BACA is
Helz · 5 months ago
Also equally fucked that there was school girls in pigtails moving to the song. May they never learn what BACA is
Helz · 5 months ago
wylted wrote:
Speaking of the British did you know that in the 1960s a study found that 30% of brits had fetal alcohol syndrome which explains why this song somehow became a hit https://youtube.com/shorts/LmYVbFKTi9Q?is=POTbnlXI8tAuJsoK
LOL
Helz · 5 months ago
Mikal wrote:
Gut is telling me 1 scum is prob between wylted and ultra. I dont think wylted would bus when this day phase is convoluted.
Really dislike how ultra keeps saying brb and going away
Atm my pool is
Ultra
Wylted
Castin
Helz
Can you give reasoning for each position?
Helz · 5 months ago
Gotta ask Luna (host) for that piece
I am just asking for reads and reasoning for those reads.
Helz · 5 months ago
wylted wrote:
I expressed a bit of regret about the hammer. It's NAI
As far as saying losing two town players is not a big deal it's consistent with my philosophy of the game. Which is that what matters is town directed kills and narrowing the scum pool for the end game if Kohai self deleted and we lynched ultra and he turned out town I would indeed see it as a positive because it narrows the scum pool. With that said I think ultra is scum
Eyhhhhh. Now that your here what are your reads and reasoning for them?
Helz · 5 months ago
Ultracrepidarian wrote:
I'm away from a computer right now give me a while
Take your time but please do really respond. Not some random list of town/scum but talking about how you view players with real reasoning.
Helz · 5 months ago
Ultracrepidarian wrote:
As stated Thoth isn't my first choice but I'm on board
Who is your first choice?
For that matter who is your 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th if you do not mind answering with reasoning.
Helz · 5 months ago
My lizard brain is thinking that there is 1 power wolf among town really playing but shooting into the lurkers has greater odds.
Helz · 5 months ago
Well between us Thoth seems to be a common factor. I would favor going there
Helz · 5 months ago
@Pie, Wryly, WF
Which 3 players do you trust the least?
Helz · 5 months ago
Also why I am saying I do not care about some specific take and I just want reads with reasoning.
I am less worried about who gets lynched today and much more worried about what information we have to work with tomorrow
Helz · 5 months ago
Like Rex realized the kill on Banana probably had scum recognizing they were the Lie Detector. No fucking shit. Positionally Banana would be sus as hell from the DP1.
Helz · 5 months ago
VTL: Thoth
We do absolutely need more here.
I think our way forward is demanding more out of the lurkers. I think town is eating itself and scum are sitting back doing little and throwing out little bits of shade which is why I also pushed Rex as a person I absolutely want reads from.
Helz · 5 months ago
Ehh. I should probably chill.
But 100% we should push for reads and not just blindly walk off a cliff listening to talking points.
Im totally ok loosing this game killing people that wont play. Thats just me. I am not ok with excusing them.
Helz · 5 months ago
Btw. Any of you fucks host and try to give me a role where I am VT and required to talk some way or die I will 100% tell you to go fuck yourself and find a replacement or kill me. That is some bullshit
Helz · 5 months ago
ILikePie5 wrote:
Helz wrote:
At this rate I will either be dead or going full on unhinged try hard town on D3.
We are not exactly generating useful content to look at individuals. We keep getting into specific situational focus.
We NEED to target the low information individuals and give hard positions and reasoning so the town has a chance. If we fuck up this elimination thats the only path forward. Not "Oh this person should die" but "These are the reads and positions of all these people"
Which inactive do you want to focus on. We need to start piling votes.
I could truly give a shit about votes right now. I want information. And if half the lobby has to be under the gun to give reads that sucks. Maybe I am kinda crashing out right now for no reason but this feels like a scum sided setup where we had a weird fucked off D1 and are dealing with a whole pack of lurkers.
I would rather VTNL if this is how this day is gona go given it does buy town another day if we are just gona sit around and make vague points
Helz · 5 months ago
ILikePie5 wrote:
Helz wrote:
I really think we should get the lurking players to give reads with reasoning as much as we can today. Anything else is fluff. I do not want a good take from them or a claim from them. I want reads with reasoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtf_ouMTHw&list=RDZMtf_ouMTHw
I swear you’re like never going to understand. You’re never going to “force” these people do do anything. They’ll happily lurk and not do anything. It’s literally Shining’s MO. We unfortunately cannot lynch every single inactive, otherwise I would’ve by now. Claims are the next best thing.
But we can just try. A tiny bit to push them to give reads with reasoning. Its the fucking bare minimum to ask playing a mafia game.
Hell, if your not gona do that why even play?
Helz · 5 months ago
At this rate I will either be dead or going full on unhinged try hard town on D3.
We are not exactly generating useful content to look at individuals. We keep getting into specific situational focus.
We NEED to target the low information individuals and give hard positions and reasoning so the town has a chance. If we fuck up this elimination thats the only path forward. Not "Oh this person should die" but "These are the reads and positions of all these people"
Helz · 5 months ago
I really think we should get the lurking players to give reads with reasoning as much as we can today. Anything else is fluff. I do not want a good take from them or a claim from them. I want reads with reasoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtf_ouMTHw&list=RDZMtf_ouMTHw
Helz · 5 months ago
Would a T! Pie give credit for such a position? Yeah. No fucking shit thats why they were killed.
Helz · 5 months ago
Whoever is posting the vote count please chime in.
Helz · 5 months ago
I truly hope Rex is gona pop in with reads and reasoning that they have been working up for a while.
Helz · 5 months ago
I mean, seems like a very flatly reasonable statement.
Town loosing a non-power role matters about as much as a sneeze but loosing a town aligned player puts us at MYLO
Helz · 5 months ago
Mikal wrote:
Lynching a vanilla isn't a huge loss but a mislynch this DP could put us at 5-3-1.
The above from castin is just bad bad. Also reads as tmi and like oh well. If we are wrong. We are at mylo. Not to mention lynching a vanilla is just worded in a way that has affirmation to it.
Digging back through whats bad about it? What are you seeing here that I am not?
Helz · 5 months ago
RexFavilla wrote:
Because if one wasn't worried, why kill Banana NP1 when she was a decent mislynch target through a TMI argument?
Eyyyyh Rexy boi. What are your reads?
Helz · 5 months ago
Stepping back from whats being talked about I feel that we have some unproductive lines of conversation going. I think what we should be doing is asking everyone to give read walls with reasoning.
I personally want to hear from Thoth, Rex, Ultra, and Wylted. Thats 4 players I have little understanding of what they think about who and I think it would be a productive move forward if as a town we all pushed for that info.
Not just "A, B, and C are town and D, E, F are neutral" kinda bullshit wall. REASONING
I think this is the path we can create for the town to win instead of bickering about details and we should all work to create our own read walls.
Helz · 5 months ago
wylted wrote:
What's your read on Helz right now?
You didn't ask me but IQ that's in the 2 digit range.
Hear me out. He thinks the goal of the game is for town to survive than for town to maximize their own kills so they can slowly tighten the noose around scum and when I asked about ultras justification he spoke about the justification for claiming instead of the justification the mod gave for his role
This actually made me laugh.
Duno where I bruised your ego but I think a second town dieing tightens the noose around the towns neck and not the scums. Crazy idea that we might not want to be in MYLO. But what do I know. I only have a 2 digit range IQ.
Helz · 5 months ago
Wryly wrote:
This doesn't really tell me anything. I assume #163 is your real answer as to why you believe there is definitely a 3P?
Well not just that. It was also the heavy analysis digging through the claims and concluding that statement 1 was one of the very least likely things to be a lie given there is zero value in scum to make such a lie. If anyone can think of a reason scum would pick that as a lie I would love to hear it but otherwise yes. I am certain there is a 3p. How certain am I? 85 or 90% certain.
I am watching how people keep trying to make that a big deal and ignoring the context and analysis that came before it.
Helz · 5 months ago
Almost reads like a 3p flagging the mafia team and saying "Im cool with town dying"
Helz · 5 months ago
Thats not at all a suspicious statement