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Part of the reason I'm interested in getting Pie's claim is to see if he has anything to verify him mechanically, but he seems to want to hold off until next DP to claim for some reason. Not sure why he's so reliant on getting Role Copped first.


I don’t have anything to mod confirm myself, but I would like to wait till DP4 to claim and would ideally like to be rolecopped as I think it would solve the game DP4

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So why is contract cop such a viable claim then? It literally could've only been used 1 DP and he didn't even claim it? That claim is less viable than a Redirector. It is also a fitting fake claim.


What are you talking about lmao. He already claimed he used it on Kohai NP1 and then used it on Mharman1 NP2.


I also buy the claim because Thoth explicitly told me before this game even started that he’s definitely going to include a custom role because no one besides Luna ever does. REF can’t be the OG scum here.


Redirector is generally a scum role to begin with. Would you claim it as your true role? Idk, it’s WIFOM, but I dislike your behavior and POE has you and WF down as OG scum

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I honestly buy the fact that he was converted. But we also need to find the OG scum as that’s the key to strategy. I’m perfectly okay with lynching Kohai for behavioral reasons alone. The shift in behavior is notable and all he’s been doing is being defensive, plain buddying, or dodging

ILikePie5
Read the precious day phase where I asked the mod a few questions about ascetics. He basically confirmed an ascetic was in the game. 


How did he do that?

ILikePie5
I agree with pie that there’s confirmed scum in Vader and whiteflame. Whiteflame is basically conf ascetic and so town redirect or makes no sense


How is he a confirmed Ascetic

ILikePie5
Any particular reason you're holding back from role claiming at this point? The character makes sense - last of the 5 magical girls in this series - but you're the only one in that bunch who hasn't role claimed.


I’d prefer to claim tomorrow.


The redirector role does stand out. No one else has an X-Shot role and it's an odd pairing with Sayaka.


Also true. Didn’t think of that one.


I agree that it doesn't make much sense for both of our roles to be present, a lot of potential for role stoppage in there. Thoth would have to be balancing quite a bit of utility to make that work.


Exactly


ILikePie5
I think this is manageable. You just make a decision on this while making the setup, or during the game if you get caught with your pants down.

You’d have to discard your previous theory of Rex/Whiteflame OG scum, and defeat your past arguments for that and for Vader not being OG scum.


I think I already did REF is either converted scum or town after that claim. That leaves Whiteflame. Supa and you are the only ones that are wishy washy at that point cause behaviorally I don’t like Supa, but his action does match your result. The problem here is that we don’t know how the stupid recruiting mechanic works, and there’s no way for us to work around that.

ILikePie5
I don’t see of any synergy between contact cop and inspector. Two investigative abilities that investigate two different things.


Two very weak investigative roles is my point. I buy REF’s role because I’m relatively confident Thoth used custom roles especially if he use hidden mechanics. I also remember him asking if Luna was the only one that used custom roles and he said he was gonna change that.

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Actually, I just realized something


I think there is a confirmed OG scum in Vader/Whiteflame. The headache a mod would have to deal with if Vader redirected Doctor or Inspector to Ascetic just doesn’t make sense from a game design perspective especially if Thoth is counting a Redirector as having two visits

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Right now I’d probably say my top scumread is Vader. The Redirector doesn’t make much sense here from a town perspective. It just seems like negative utility that should be waived every night.


I absolutely hate the fact that Supa didn’t use his ability last night. He could’ve redirected who he thought was scum onto someone he also thought could be scum. He could’ve verified WF’s role as well. Doesn’t make sense to waive here. The Contract Cop and Inspector make sense together. Doctor is flipped. Wryly is behaviorally very town.

ILikePie5

Kohai - Hitomi Shizuki - Emissary

Vader - Sayaka Miki - 2x Redirector

Mag2cman - Kyoko Sakura - Inspector

Pie - Mami Tomoe - ???

REF - Junko Kaname - Contract Cop

Whiteflame - Homura Akemi - Ascetic

Wryly - Kyosuke Kamijo - ???



Mag1cman - Madoka Kaname - Doctor


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Kohai - Hitomi Shizuki - Emissary

Vader - Sayaka Miki - 2x Redirector

Mag2cman - ??? - Inspector

Pie - Mami Tomoe - ???

REF - Junko Kaname - Contract Cop

Whiteflame - Homura Akemi - Ascetic

Wryly - Kyosuke Kamijo - ???



Mag1cman - Madoka Kaname - Doctor