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Just as with Max, the sudden claim from Supa makes me suspicious because only scum would not fear anticlaim, so claiming suddenly DP1 (especially after protesting it) is just overall sus to me. It's like he calculated that he could get more town cred for claiming, it doesn't feel genuine. I also feel like if you're going to throw a fit to stave off the night kill as town why not do it without claiming? I'm leaning more towards a desperate reaction like in that one game you linked. I don't know whether it's an act or not. My gut says not but that example you gave has been undermining that.


This is a great point I hadn’t thought of. Max just outright claimed albeit with a confirmable. Supa doing a complete 180 makes no sense. He was aware of the anti claim. Even talked about it. Going to iso him real quick

ILikePie5
Debating if this is a bluff. 


I honestly think it is. He’s done this before in a previous game. I don’t have time to dig it up right now. The only thing holding me up is the claim and the role.


My other scum read is Awesome. Like I said, his role doesn’t add up, and it can be a scum role too. From a balance perspective it makes sense to give it to scum too. I would’ve liked his character to determine justification, but his utility alive is pretty much non-existent from where I’m sitting at. I trust you as one of my top town reads, so I don’t know if I’m ready to pull the trigger yet.




ILikePie5
It’s also the fact I layer out pretty decent logic for Pie being scum later on after thinking about it but it just gets avoided all together


What logic? Last I saw, I was in your null pile

ILikePie5
Has Supa ever raged out before being lynched like that as scum? The two games I can recall him being scum in he just kind of sadly withered away and died once he thought it was hopeless.


Yes he has. I vividly remember a game from DART where he did that. .


ILikePie5
awsomes role is in the op and kinda validates that role being in the game. Which to be fair he did say off the rip 


It’s a direct counter to Max’s claimed role. Makes sense for scum to have something like what Awesome is claiming. Also note that he said he could enable/disable the ability, but if he died it would be perma disabled.

ILikePie5
Alright well I’m the tracker and I’m Steve from blues clues 

tough shit if I die atp. Town deserve it for forcing claims in an anti mass claim mechanic


So you went from saying you’re not going to be claiming no matter what to claiming. I can see the justification, but what’s the justification Kohai gave?

ILikePie5
Alright, now that's interesting. So there is effectively mod confirmation that your role is in this game. That does explain your earlier statement on Masons as well.


Doesnt confirm his affiliation though. And there’s still the question of the lack of win con in his PM. My theory is that as scum, he probably has an ability to disable chats, or it’s some sort of anti claim feature

ILikePie5
I can enable or disable day chats. If I die, all day chats are disabled


So how can you enable or disable chats but chats are disabled when you die?


If mafia chat was the only day chat, my role would be strictly -EV, which is why I talked about masons and neighbors
ILikePie5
I agree with unsaid, and am surprised people are over-looking supa. Lazy reads are one thing, but he is just typing to type. Also notice how he's been so against this "POE list" the whole game but then his town reads almost copy it verbatim, and he hops onto the awesome wagon. Makes me think awesome is a viable mislynch for scum. I am willing to lynch vader over whiteflame and awesome, with how busy vader keeps claiming to be he will likely hold up night phases anyway, and his reads haven't been heavy hitting this game. I know he's capable of more and I feel like when he is town its a lot more obvious. I am not seeing that from him.

I am voting vader.

VTL Vader


Could be Vader + Awesome or Vader + Unsaid.

ILikePie5
Right now my reads are as follows

Town
mikal 
luna

slight town
unsaid
thoth

null
pie
max
wf
awesome
rex


So you have zero scumreads at this stage of the game? Gun to your head, who would you lynch?

ILikePie5
We're running short on time and, unfortunately, I'm short on sleep. For people who want my claim, I'll point back to post #384 where I said my role is alignment-specific. If you still want it, I'll give it just so we can move on, but it's a town-only role.


Definitely missed this. Are you 100% sure this role cannot be given to town? And are you sure that it is confirmable?

ILikePie5
i kind of want to vote pie for possibly tmi'ing mikal and thoth town lmfao


It’s mod confirmation. Theres no reason for Kohai to say don’t talk about PM wincons

ILikePie5
because this assumption is only valid if i am scum and somehow decided to try to attack mikal and thoth from that angle lmao


I mean, i don’t blame you. Kohai screwed you over by mod confirming Thoth and Mikal. It makes sense for scum to push back on the PM stuff but Kohai royally fucked you over

ILikePie5
Idk I remember Thoth being scummy but I can’t remember if he did something to redeem that cuz he was on the POE list. Havent been super focused, usually kind of distracted during the weekends even though I’m technically caught up.


Thoth talked about his wincon and Mikal confirmed it and Awesome was like I don’t have that. Then Kohai came in and was like please don’t talk about wincons. That basically mod confirmed both Thoth and Mikal

ILikePie5

We have less than 24 hours. We need to decide what we’re doing. I like Mikal taking my idea from a couple games ago.


Who are the two people you would be willing to lynch right now.

ILikePie5
Everyone pick your top 2 and let’s move this forward. 

unsaid - wf 
myself - wf - anon/supa (either is okay but supa mainly cus he hardly ever posts)


Awesome and Unsaid

ILikePie5
my experience probably doesnt matter much to you but wf is not very interested in sharing opinions on the other players alignments so far. It has felt more apologetic and mech centric than anything else


So you scumread WF? Good for you. He feels town to me. Less so than the people above on the list but moreso than the people below the list.

ILikePie5
were talking about a large post made by Whiteflame about something setup related that he could have just left “unsaid” to instead obtain a cheap elimination.

so wouldnt doing what youve described just massively implicate him as scum?


What are you even saying lol