Leaning towards REF right now based on skim
Leaning towards REF right now based on skim
Busy at work right now, but wtf is this game. I thought it was solved
Game is solved Wryly
MeowMix wrote:
You didn't scumread me before today at all. In fact, I'd wager you townread me.
Why do you townread Ultra?
MeowMix wrote:
Hammer ultra. And when you feel that sting I want you to think of me.
Dont you scumread him?
Wryly wrote:
What exactly is the holdup on MeowMix? In what way does Ultra seem a higher priority lynch here? If he's scum, he's not even active. But we all agree MeowMix's claim smells bad. We all seem to find it suspicious that his second target was whiteflame, a point he has only weakly engaged and for the most part avoided. He even stalled when pressed on which claim of whiteflame's he had chosen. My character cop shows Rex is Canadians. No one has made an effective case for how my cop was interfered with or why I am scum.
What do we have on Ultra? He's been inactive, his claim is bland, his posts have been lackluster. The strongest indicator to me is that the people in my POE have avoided targeting him even though he's easy meat, but the rest of you don't even share that POE. I don't think these evidence piles are equal. I think MeowMix's is bigger.
If we suspect both of these people, we should target active scum over inactive scum. Doing otherwise doesn't make sense to me.
The idea is that solving Ultra solves the 50/50 between REF and Meow. Both believe that Ultra is scum, so logically both would be bussing their partner. We know based on wagonomics that if Ultra was town, the lynch should’ve gone through especially with WF (who is at worse a TP) and Wylted on the wagon. I know I’m town, so that’s 3. 4th is REF, who you believe is town. Scum had the opportunity to use their leverage and hammer there, which no one would’ve faulted, but they didn’t, unless Ultra is scum.
If Ultra flips scum, REF is basically confirmed town and we lynch Meow, no questions asked
Wryly wrote:
You've pulled that before i'm afraid.
Let me get done and at my computer.
I can’t lol, I’ll claim whenever Helz wants. Convince him
Wryly wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
Wryly wrote:
"I can prove myself tomorrow" is a refrain that has no credit with you. I want your claim now. We all claimed except you. Meet me in the middle here man. That you're not even gonna tell Helz until night phase is troubling in itself. Does this mean you haven't claimed to Mikal or whiteflame?
Not tomorrow, tonight in my Mason chat with Helz. Yes I haven’t claimed yet per Helz’s wishes. I offered to claim whenever he wanted me to
Tonight as in after the day phase is over?
Yes.
MeowMix wrote:
Sorry ^^; I'm just so indecisive.
Hard to be decisive when it comes to liking pie
MeowMix wrote:
VTL: Helz
Lol
Wryly wrote:
"I can prove myself tomorrow" is a refrain that has no credit with you. I want your claim now. We all claimed except you. Meet me in the middle here man. That you're not even gonna tell Helz until night phase is troubling in itself. Does this mean you haven't claimed to Mikal or whiteflame?
Not tomorrow, tonight in my Mason chat with Helz. Yes I haven’t claimed yet per Helz’s wishes. I offered to claim whenever he wanted me to
Wryly wrote:
I suspect Ultra, but I would rather vote MeowMix or Mikal. I feel like Mikal and MeowMix may be trying to shift the vote to the scummate who is just dead weight, and I would rather they have that dead weight on them at MYLO and lose a functional scummate instead. Also I still don't have Pie's claim and just in case there's a world where I'm dead wrong about Ultra, I would rather put my vote on the one I'm most sure of, and that's MeowMix.
I'll still vote Ultra if there's no chance of a MeowMix lynch going through, but it's bad strategy imo.
You don’t have to worry about my claim. I will tell Helz tonight in case I die. If you feel Ultra is town, then I would like for you to explain it. Before I die tonight, I’ll also leave my final will to Helz on who I think is scum and what to pay attention for.
Plz vote
VTL: Ultracrepidarian
Helz wants to lynch Ultra. No objections from me, Mikal, or WF. Anything from you?
Gun to your head, what is the exact scum team at this juncture and why?
DP2 Wagon
Ultracrepidarian (4/6): ILikePie5, wylted, RexFavilla, whiteflame
wylted (3/6): MeowMix, Helz, Mikal
Wryly (3/6): Thoth
Helz (1/6): Ultracrepidarian
Not Voting (2): Thoth, Wryly
With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase ends in 4 minutes
istg if it doesn’t work
Wth my color coding didn’t work
DP2 Wagob
Ultracrepidarian (4/6): ILikePie5, wylted, RexFavilla, whiteflame
wylted (3/6): MeowMix, Helz, Mikal
Wryly (3/6): Thoth
Helz (1/6): Ultracrepidarian
Not Voting (2): Thoth, Wryly
With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase ends in 4 minutes
Helz wrote:
The odds bit of my brain is moving twords just solving ultra and giving another day to sort Rex/meow 1v1 while giving pie and wryly both a pass on claims even if both are likely not to be town.
Then we pair with the 3p and hammer out the game placing bets where we want between Rex/Meow
I wouldn’t mind feedback on my logic here if I am missing something
I don’t see anything wrong with it. I think everyone in the game probably agrees Ultra is scum. If he’s town, we’ve lost the game anyways. I still think if you believe Wryly is the TP to make her claim so we have all the information before making a decision
Also - if we lynch correctly, and if you die tonight, it’s possible that you could be tailored. Scum can take critical info from your PM. For me, my plan is simple. I’m straight up going to wait till the last second to submit my action and also full claim in the Mason chat to Helz. That way, even if I die, Helz can relay the information to the thread and town can make a holistic decision.
Claims List:
Pie - Women - ???
Ultra - Boomers - Vanilla
REF - Canadiens - Vanilla
Helz - Jews - Deathproof
Mikal - Indians - Mason
Meow - Blacks - Universal Backup (2x LD)
Whiteflame - Christians - Opt-In Doctor
Wryly - LGBTQ - JOAT: 1x Char Cop, 1x Commuter, 1x ???, 1x ???
Kohai - Russians - Town Drunk
Banana - Asians - 2x LD
Thoth - Mexicans - 1x Triple Voter
Wylted - Whites - Vanilla
You said this in DP1:
Please kill me. The people I received a rolecard for do not deserve to exist.
Can you explain this?
Wryly wrote:
I think we're in a position where more is being decided in mason chat than in the thread, which was inevitable. Not much I can do about that except hope townies in the chat are smart, and that they'll give me the opportunity to weigh in on important points eventually. I'm leaving it here for today.
There is nothing being “decided” in the Mason PM. Helz hasn’t said anything in more than 12 hours. I need time to reread all the threads. Would like ur full claim for sure. I’ve said a couple times in Mason PM that WF could be a variant of this role:
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/database/mafia-roles/role/?mafiarole=Monk
Regardless, I don’t believe WF is Mafia. At worst he’s TP.
MeowMix wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
RexFavilla wrote:
Mikal wrote:
This is verified by 2 fucking people. Nice try
I accepted wfs action
As did pie
So unless you are calling me pie wf and meow scum. Not even aure what you are saying lol.
Wf is a verified doctor.
So unless all 3 of us are lying good fucking luck lol
Have no idea if meow is town but he was spamming about your wincon last dayphase. That claim is also convenient
But castin literally bullshitted about quitting the game. Has a shitty role to explain a nk on herself mind you when wf is verified by both pie and myself. And masons said shes a character cop when a lie detector can already check win cons and characters lmfao and that role already flipped.
Poe
Ultra
Castin
Rex
2 there scum or tp or something
Last is meow or pie
And pie is saying hes about to cc her as well
Shit is hilarious.
It confirms WF. Does zero to confirm you or Pie. If either you or Pie lied to sus whiteflame the other would call you out. I town read Pie at this point off of behavior and I scum read you for the same reason. On such behavior is constantly pretending to be more confirmed than you are and using the Mason PM to add the weight of WF and Pie to your pronouncements only to have them come out and contradict you later. In this case we have you pushing for Wryly's full claim when the flip will clear her. Only scum motivation to do that. Only scum motivation to do literally anything you've done this ganem
As much as I am flattered to be townread, it’s MYLO/LYLO. We need complete information from Wryly. Flipping Meow doesn’t confirm Wryly as town. I’m just trying to cross out Ts and dot the Is.
What are you spewing right now?
Im explaining that I want to have the entire picture before I make a decision. Im still reading through this thread. I have to go back and read all the other threads too, which is why im literally begging you to stop the spam
RexFavilla wrote:
Mikal wrote:
This is verified by 2 fucking people. Nice try
I accepted wfs action
As did pie
So unless you are calling me pie wf and meow scum. Not even aure what you are saying lol.
Wf is a verified doctor.
So unless all 3 of us are lying good fucking luck lol
Have no idea if meow is town but he was spamming about your wincon last dayphase. That claim is also convenient
But castin literally bullshitted about quitting the game. Has a shitty role to explain a nk on herself mind you when wf is verified by both pie and myself. And masons said shes a character cop when a lie detector can already check win cons and characters lmfao and that role already flipped.
Poe
Ultra
Castin
Rex
2 there scum or tp or something
Last is meow or pie
And pie is saying hes about to cc her as well
Shit is hilarious.
It confirms WF. Does zero to confirm you or Pie. If either you or Pie lied to sus whiteflame the other would call you out. I town read Pie at this point off of behavior and I scum read you for the same reason. On such behavior is constantly pretending to be more confirmed than you are and using the Mason PM to add the weight of WF and Pie to your pronouncements only to have them come out and contradict you later. In this case we have you pushing for Wryly's full claim when the flip will clear her. Only scum motivation to do that. Only scum motivation to do literally anything you've done this ganem
As much as I am flattered to be townread, it’s MYLO/LYLO. We need complete information from Wryly. Flipping Meow doesn’t confirm Wryly as town. I’m just trying to cross out Ts and dot the Is.
Also for the record, I do not CC Commuter or Character Cop. I may for the other two roles that Wryly has though. And that’s what I said in the Mason chat
Wryly wrote:
Things would've gone a lot better for town here if wylted and Kohai hadn't shit the bed. Kohai with that random fucking "they got a list of three choices", wylted raving about hidden Jews and then freaking out at Helz's town confirmation. Fml.
I shouldn't have let Mikal's unending torrent of tantrum-throwing get to me so much last DP. Just the incessant goddamn "this is aids", "you are retarded", "omg ur making this game unbearabullllllll". Jesus christ what an earsore.
Dont worry, Daddy Pie is still here for the long game. I firmly believe we can still win this. If you have DP1 info, it can literally solve the game with the info I’ve kept to myself since NP1.
MeowMix wrote:
ILikePie5 wrote:
MeowMix wrote:
Ok pie. I will spoon-feed you. The post numbers correlate to the THREAD THAT THEY CAME FROM. NOT THIS THREAD.
Wtf are you talking about. Auto links only trace back to the current DP, otherwise you have to manually link it. And I don’t see any links you’ve posted anyways lol
Then we're splitting hairs on the issue. Let's solve it here:
first lie detector was on the post where WF said he was Christian role
Second was obviously at EoD yesterday when I talked to rex.
Great, thank you. That’s all I needed. Now I’m going to read through your entire progression and see if it makes sense to me
MeowMix wrote:
Ok pie. I will spoon-feed you. The post numbers correlate to the THREAD THAT THEY CAME FROM. NOT THIS THREAD.
Wtf are you talking about. Auto links only trace back to the current DP, otherwise you have to manually link it. And I don’t see any links you’ve posted anyways lol