ILikePie5

If REF refuses and we mislynch, tomorrow may be MYLO, so just force him to full claim first. Helz needs to claim right now tho

Ultracrepidarian wrote:

Reworded to Shakespearean English

Ye doddering relics, a very blight upon the commonwealth! Ever dost thou prattle of how fairer all things were in days long past, whilst scorning every new contrivance set before thee. Thou fearest artifices of intelligence, knowest not the workings of a computing engine, and spendest thy twilight years draining the public purse for physic and remedies. Thy usefulness hath long since fled; therefore art thou but a simple Vanilla.

Did you just copy paste your PM into ChatGPT?

Claims List

Ultra - Boomers - Vanilla

MeowMix (Magoroth) - Blacks - ???

Rex - ??? - ???

Whiteflame - Christians - ???

Thoth - Mexicans - 1x Triple Voter

Pie - ??? - ???

Mikal - Indians - Mason

Wryly - LGBTQ - ???

Helz - ??? - ???

Wylted (Casey) - Whites - Vanilla

Banana - Asians - 2x Lie Detector

Kohai - Russians - Town Drunk

MeowMix wrote:

Really depends which part of the list lmao.

What is your character claim dude

MeowMix wrote:

That wasn't a soft by the way. I intentionally make EOD and SOD at excruciating times for Europeans out of spite when I host games.

Fuck Europeans and character claim?

Do you plan on claiming character?

VTL: MeowMix

What do you think you have done to advance the game since replacing in?

wylted wrote:

Same thing, high level what does Luna say about white people

I already said but maybe you missed it. White people have privilege and avoid jail and have life on easy mode because of it, they also don't know how to have fun in a theater and are eerily quiet when a movie is playing and their privilege also is why they have good credit and something about how it's weird that crackers don't season dey food

So ur asking me to buy the fact that after all this, your justification is that because your skin is white, you’re Vanilla? Rather odd, but the likelihood of >1 vanilla is pretty good

Little over 24 hours left. We need to secure a lynch tonight before everyone goes to sleep

You need to confirm yourself today in the off chance tomorrow is MYLO at 5-3

Also can confirm I’m in a Mason PM with him. Whether he’s town or scum, I do not know

Same thing, high level what does Luna say about white people

Ultracrepidarian wrote:

I didn't want to to claim because I thought you, as a white person, would be a cop.

As I've said, I'm vanilla because boomers are useless.

High level, what else does Luna say about boomers?

Helz wrote:

@Pie, Wryly, WF

Which 3 players do you trust the least?

Ultra, Wylted, Thoth

wylted wrote:

VTL: Ultracrepidarian

If you’re a Jew and you know, vote Thoth.

Let’s pressure Thoth guys

Helz wrote:

Ehh. I should probably chill.

But 100% we should push for reads and not just blindly walk off a cliff listening to talking points.

Im totally ok loosing this game killing people that wont play. Thats just me. I am not ok with excusing them.

Great, let’s go Thoth. He’s nocturnal, so he should be awake

VTL: Thoth

Let’s do some math: 12 player game and either a 9-3 or 9-2-1 setup.

Right now, we are 7-3 or 7-2-1 at the worse and 8-2 or 8-1-1 at the best

Going to take worst case and work from there which is 7-3. This means a mislynch here and successful NK is MYLO tomorrow, which is 5-3. A blind lynch is a 37.5% chance of finding scum correctly. Nothing to laugh about. Logically the plan tomorrow would be to VTNL to get better odds at 4-3 at 42.8%.

Lynching today is a no brainer, just a matter of who to lynch. I would like to focus on the Kohai llynch. The speed at which is happened, there has to be at least one scum on it.

Helz wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

Helz wrote:

At this rate I will either be dead or going full on unhinged try hard town on D3.

We are not exactly generating useful content to look at individuals. We keep getting into specific situational focus.

We NEED to target the low information individuals and give hard positions and reasoning so the town has a chance. If we fuck up this elimination thats the only path forward. Not "Oh this person should die" but "These are the reads and positions of all these people"

Which inactive do you want to focus on. We need to start piling votes.

I could truly give a shit about votes right now. I want information. And if half the lobby has to be under the gun to give reads that sucks. Maybe I am kinda crashing out right now for no reason but this feels like a scum sided setup where we had a weird fucked off D1 and are dealing with a whole pack of lurkers.

I would rather VTNL if this is how this day is gona go given it does buy town another day if we are just gona sit around and make vague points

Welcome to DCraft. Just believe me that if we get 4 votes on someone, they’ll blab more than the Hanoi Songbird. Who do you want to hear from the most?

Wryly wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

The best way to catch Wylted as scum is to force him to claim. He’s horrible at claiming. If his claim is somewhat good, he’s either town or has really good support

If he's scum all he has to do is think up a plausible role to go with his actual character though.

Hes bad at that lol, trust me. Seen it like 3/4 separate times

I feel worse about Ultra cause he’s now completely MIA after claiming. I’m also inclined to believe the partners showed up among the replacements and told him to claim Vanilla. Otherwise, why wait so long. Could’ve just claimed it last DP when he had a wagon on him. Lynching him doesn’t help us read anyone else, but it could at the worst reduce the ability of scum to claim Vanilla

Still wary of Helz but feel a bit better. Meow has some fluff flags and I don’t think they’ve really be scum hunting but I’ve only skimmed so

Helz wrote:

At this rate I will either be dead or going full on unhinged try hard town on D3.

We are not exactly generating useful content to look at individuals. We keep getting into specific situational focus.

We NEED to target the low information individuals and give hard positions and reasoning so the town has a chance. If we fuck up this elimination thats the only path forward. Not "Oh this person should die" but "These are the reads and positions of all these people"

Which inactive do you want to focus on. We need to start piling votes.

Like look at Thoth, completely MIA.

Helz wrote:

I really think we should get the lurking players to give reads with reasoning as much as we can today. Anything else is fluff. I do not want a good take from them or a claim from them. I want reads with reasoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMtf_ouMTHw&list=RDZMtf_ouMTHw

I swear you’re like never going to understand. You’re never going to “force” these people do do anything. They’ll happily lurk and not do anything. It’s literally Shining’s MO. We unfortunately cannot lynch every single inactive, otherwise I would’ve by now. Claims are the next best thing.

Sorry guys, been swamped at work. I disagree with Mikal. I think Wryly’s post reads as if she’s either TP if one exists or Town. As scum, saying 5-3-1 just doesn’t make sense.

I feel Mikal is town just based on his play DP and the fact that he pseudo-CCed Banana’s justification. Doesn’t make sense for scum Mikal to kill Banana.

I think REF brings up a good point about the Lie Detector and scum probably realizing the ramifications of that. Going to Tilt Town on him even more now.

I’m slowly not starting to like WF now. I just feel he would be more active and driving, esp if I’m not doing that. Just feels odd

The best way to catch Wylted as scum is to force him to claim. He’s horrible at claiming. If his claim is somewhat good, he’s either town or has really good support

Helz wrote:

Dude. What are you even on about. It was disclosed to us at the start of the game and we had extensive discussions about which of the revealed things is likely to be a lie. It flatly says in one of the host revealed mechanics that a 3rd party exists and I concluded its very unlikely for scum to choose that as the thing thats lied about.

Okay, but you’re not 100%. At least, you shouldn’t be. You’re writing like it’s gospel.

Ive already mentioned that the utility of #1 to scum is very little, but I’m not writing like I know there is definitely a TP. It reads as a Freudian slip.

That combined with the other “questions” you supposedly asked Luna, there’s a sort of pattern forming. I know people don’t agree with me on the latter and that you indeed could’ve asked that, but to me it’s still a negative point in your favor.

As for the notion of you not slipping, that’s pure WIFOM, and I also know that you would’ve hammered WF last game and lost the game. You’re prone to miss/forget things just like we all are

I get the whole idea that with a TP, scum can fake scumhunt. No question about that. But you’re writing like it’s a fact that a TP exists, which is one of 5 conditions. Either you’re the TP yourself or scum because only those two would know whether or not condition #1 is true