ILikePie5

The thing is, Pie plays aggressively as scum and gets away with it, last game when he was scum in Rex’s game he pushed me consistently and scumread me when nobody else was, and it just so happens this matches a scum motivation, and it doesn’t make sense as a town strategy to try to get a claim out of a player right out the gate. That and it happens to be a dick move, and I dont think Pie is a dick so I think he’s just scum

You haven’t played long enough with me. You’re literally just plain wrong

Then you need to go back to elementary school and learn how to read

Yes, it wasn't Kohai's fault beause you don't fucking put someone at L-2 THREE HOURS INTO DAY START. I don't care that I sound like a broken record, we don't have an automated vote counter + early on it's VERY easy to get people to accidentally vote someone, and even if you don't, wtf is the point of getting someone to hardclaim 3 HOURS into the day, when there's ZERO information and you may be outing an important Town role? Which, gee, guess what, turns out to be the case!

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I already explained this multiple times. If you’re just going to refuse to listen to me and everyone else around, that’s fine. You’re wrong. Everyone thinks you’re wrong. You’re wasting everyone’s time by going up this tree.

Yes.

Pie could be non-Caroler scum. I don’t trust Pie’s reaction test D1, it feels more like opportunism designed to get Kohai mislynched. Like I said it makes sense as a town strategy IF you have reason to suspect someone is scum, not as a “blind lets get someone to claim” thing, cause it can easily backfire and get a town lynched (as it did).

Literally everyone agrees, that it was Kohai’s own fault that he got lynched…except you.

They wouldn't thats the thing. Unless it's just a bastard role that gives town wrong info but I doubt that.

Even if there is a scum Caroler, which itself is bastard, the only utility it has is

A) Scum claims the role and confirms themselves, which didn’t happen herw

B) Scum says nothing and just gets the person lynched, but that strategy makes zero sense compared to A

Also dislike REF’s justification, but I’ll give it a pass cause there’s no Caroler lol

The funny thing is no one claimed Caroler lmfaooo

Pie - Mikal - Odd Night Roleblocker

Lunatic - Vader - Oracle

REF - Ultra - Ascetic

Shining - ??? - Hated/Popular

Wylted - Mharman - Innocent Child

Wryly - ??? - ???

Magoroth - Kohai - Reroller (NP1??)

Banana - Lunatic - Inventor (Doctor, Tracker, Neighborizer)

Kohai - Whiteflame - Lie Detector

Pie - Mikal - Odd Night Roleblocker

Lunatic - Vader - Oracle

REF - Ultra - Ascetic

Shining - ??? - Hated/Popular

Wylted - Mharman - Innocent Child

Wryly - ??? - ???

Magoroth - Kohai - Reroller (NP1??)

I visited you last night. Won’t reveal what my ability did. 

And why not?

He failed the test and got lynched. What did that achieve?

He didn’t fail the test. He got hammered cause he refused to claim. If he would’ve said Lie Detector, we would’ve moved on

He’s probably going to be mod confirmed town lol, so yes, he is the boss actually

And? You don’t push someone to claim immediately unless you have some suspicion they’re scum. It’s a bullshit reaction test otherwise

And if he fails the test, he’s scum. Passes, he’s town. Our job is to find scum, but also to find town, so that it helps us get scum. I already explained why it was low risk anyways

I’m Kohai. 

I’m Reroller. Every night I get a new ability from Thoth.

Justification is that I’m bad at fake claiming.

A) Why’d you claim

B) What did you have/do last night

C) Never heard of this role

Is the fruit pie a role or mechanic related thing, or thoths attempt at a joke? The latter wouldn't surprise me.

I’ve asked him to clarify

I specifically want him to answer why he wanted Kohai to claim, it’s not as obvious as you might think

Cause he sucks at fake claiming as scum?

Why did you want Kohai to claim?

Did you not read DP1 lol

I usually don't suggest these, but this might be one of those rare situations where I could be okay with a mass claim. I can confirm myself at least my role (as long as I claim before the person I can confirm claims), and if that person happens to be in those three that can help sort out the results a bit. Something to chew on. 

Probably agree that it’s game solvable with a mass claim based on what happened last night

Of those three rex is the only one I don't have any sort of read on yet. I townread shining for the claim for mechanic reasons, doesn't make sense as a scum role and its technically verifiable if we wanted to gamble it, which I imagine is a real possibility in this player pool, thus not a good fake claim for shining to make as scum. He also claimed really early and risked a CC which is something I doubt he would do, especially with out easily he could have been CC'ed. Popular is a very common role these days. Pie is more of a wifom based read, but I still feel good about him.

I agree with you. For me it’s likely REF. Waiting for his full claim at this point, and then Wryly should probably claim as well to be thorough. Maybe get the Caroler too

That's true if somebody will claim they sent that gift it would probably make the. Town and they in fact may be in the results and it could give us confidence in wrylys results to some extent. But then against why would anyone gift wryly that when she hammered Kohai there and we can't easily trust she is being honest even if given a gift the DP is so short several people could have town read her and it would be hard to narrow down who potentially gave her the gift

The Caroler probably needs to claim here and explain themselves.

tbf I didn't even want to vote kohai remember? You were spam pinging me and I voted directly after that, so we could move on from it.

Yes, but it’s possible you coordinated like Mikal/WF in Alien. But regardless at that point in time, Wryly was more likely to be scum, so I roleblocked her

no. it’s not Kohai’s fault. you don’t run a guy up to L-2 not even 3 hours into game start. THE DAY STARTED WHILE I WAS FUCKING ASLEEP AND I SLEPT THROUGH ALL OF IT.

Why not? Would you rather wait till the last second like we always do? It’s his fault for not claiming. He would’ve been protected that night as well with the Doctor from the inventor

How did you recieve results if you were roleblocked? Asking thoth about this real quick, maybe since you were given them it works different.

Per MU, this is how it works:

The Caroler may each night visit a person and sing them a carol. The carol will inform the targeted player of 3 names, at least one of which is mafia. However, if the targeted person is visiting someone on that night, they will not hear the carol. The Caroler may not choose the same player on consecutive nights.

I roleblocked Wryly, which means she couldn’t have visited anymore. Whether she is scum is still possible but less likely because she didn’t execute the NK at the very least

All right serious shit, I got stuff to report and it's been a long day

I was roleblocked last night

I can verify that I did that.

Something else happened that I will keep to myself for now

Fair enough

I received a Carol. There is at least one scum in ILikePie5, RexFavilla, Shining

Everyone needs to claim. I’ll start off:

Character: Mikal

Role: Odd Night Roleblocker

Justification: I am a dominating player when I am playing mafia to the point where it’s been called bullying. And I use that to my advantage by bullying people out of their lunch money (night actions.)

except when Daddy Pie does it. so alpha.

I’m probably old enough to be your brother so unless we’re both in Alabama….

I get the game started a bit late, but seriously where tf is everyone? I figured this day phase would be poppin after the short one from yesterday.

I know Supa is in Vegas with the huzz based on his Snap story lol

Also a little bit of a wifom town read on Pie, we all know pie wouldn't have taken ten years to submit night actions. 

How do you know it was scum vs town though?

I'd venture to say if pie is a character in this game, he's probably a compulsive visiting modifier or something like that, because thoth has made multiple references to Pie's impatience in the past lol. 

Im 99% sure based on the message I got from Thoth

How convinced are we that that was an accidental hammer. It's unlikely for two scum to coordinate that but honestly I would do it as scum if I thought we could get away with it for WIFOM reasons

There are 2 possibilities:

1) Wryly and Luna are both scum

2) Wryly is the only scum

Wryly is more likely to be town based on what I did last night.

I also received a message from Thoth saying that I got a slice of fruit pie, and that looking closer, there was a handwritten note that told me to get my actions in quicker next time.

So Kohai is an even bigger retard than I originally thought. And lo and behold, there was a Doctor that could’ve been used on him NP1 with the Inventor.