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I have an SOP claim. I will make it before the end of the DP. Just putting this here so nobody cries about how it should be my first post or some shit.

Why not just make it right now?

Don't think I've ever been in a 12p before. Are there guaranteed more than 2 scum with this many?

Usually 3 scum in a 12p game. But per OP, technically Supa doesn’t have a vote, so it’s really 11p, which is more balanced usually with 2 scum + TP imo

I’m fine with a Shining lynch. Whatever we decide should be done by tonight tho cause DP ends early morning tomorrow

What type of vibes?

I also dislike the whole talk about a commuter from REF. It’s oddly specific. Like I’m curious where that thought even came from.

Ascetic is one of those scummy claim. Usually when Luna gives role hints, they’re pretty substantial though. I don’t think Ascetic would be a derivative of one of those role. Still, it’s impossible to prove, and the behavior I don’t like either

unvote

VTL Shining

Does anyone else get sus vibes from Shining?

You read my mind. I’m fine nailing him down early.

VTL Shining

Anyway I literally see zero town motivation for banana to claim. It's dumb. In fact why not just wait until there is some heat on her before claiming so we can at least see some behavioral reads on her train later? 

Can one of yall see if Banana has ever played in a past game where someone was a popular. I’m curious

ya im nowhere close to being n e where near pies level lol

Practice practice practice. Ive been playing for probably a decade now lol

Just asked Lunatic about this. He attaches mylo/lylo clauses to populars, so the quick hammer play isn't relevant.

Banana's still null. We have no behavior to go off, and the role isn't towny or scummy.

At best she’s role confirmed. Once we get more claims and flips, balance analysis will out her if she’s scum.

Null on everyone but Kohai btw. In particular, everything Whiteflame has done is NAI in my book. Literally everything I can see as legit or faked.

Agree with this take. Very minimal scum lean in Shining though, but he’s just always scummy

I know in a recent game the informed was a hidden nexus. Worth taking into consideration for the investigative role.

I mean ya, anything is possible lol, but the odds are lower

ill claim, im jamie tart, and im 1x popular townie, if i get tested once it will use up my popular status tho. also i know nothing about the theme 

I presume everyone already tested this based on the votes. Anyways, what is your justification?

Hey everyone. 

I guess I’ll put some cards on the table to get something moving. I won’t full claim but I have some information about tbe game namely there is a hidden miller in this setup

Interesting

Skimmed quickly, I am in the Footballer category. Ask me questions folks. I’ll deeply catch up tonight. Putting out fires at work

Sorry guys have like 50 things to do at work. I will check in late tonight or early morning tom

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NP1 Actions:

Magic: Message Thoth - "FREE TOWN CONFIRMATION FOR ME!"

Banana: Apportion Wylted

Wylted: Investigate Mago

Mago: NK Thoth & Vanillaize Wylted

MAFIA:

Magoroth - You are Ted Cruz. You have played a central role in maintaining Republican dominance in Texas through your campaigns, legislative work, and public presence. Since your election to the U.S. Senate in 2012, you have consistently won statewide races, including your 2018 Senate re-election against Beto O’Rourke, a high-profile Democratic challenger who energized national attention. Your victories in these contests have contributed to keeping Texas’ statewide offices and Senate seats largely in Republican hands, despite demographic changes and increasing Democratic voter registration. You were the conservative candidate for President in 2016, but you were quickly forced to bend the knee, becoming Lion Ted from Lyin Ted. Since then, with your chairmanship of the Commerce committee and postion on the Judiciary committee, you have pushed through Trump judges and ensured the businesses thrive in Texas and the U.S. After Trump and McConnell, you are probably the third most hated Republican. Democrats would do anything to retire you to Cancun, you have successfully stopped so called “moderates” Beto O’Rourke and Collin Allred, redefining them as liberal hacks. Thus, you are the 1x Vanillaizer. Two nights, you may choose to convert a player into a Vanilla. You win with the Mafia.

Kohai - You are Marco Rubio. In President Donald Trump’s second administration, you have taken on an unusually large and influential set of roles that go far beyond the typical single Cabinet post. You were nominated by Trump and unanimously confirmed by the Senate as U.S. Secretary of State. In this role you are deeply involved in shaping administration strategy on issues such as Latin America and Maduro’s ouster. In addition to your formal Cabinet position, you have served as acting National Security Adviser, advising the president on security strategy and coordinating the National Security Council, You also took on responsibilities tied to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) as acting administrator during its winding down and were recently appointed acting Archivist of the United States, overseeing the National Archives. Your career has been very distinguished, but as always, with great power comes great responsibility. Because of your multiple positions, you are the Manipulative JOAT: 1x Roleblocker, 1x Redirector, 1x Deflector. You win with the Mafia.

TOWN:

Shining - You are Donald J. Trump. When you entered politics, few took you seriously. You had never held public office, and nearly every major political institution predicted your failure. Yet in 2016, you defied expectations, defeated a crowded Republican field, and won the presidency against a heavily favored opponent in Hillary Clinton. You singlehandedly defeated the Access Hollywood tapes and brought a trifecta for the GOP. Even in 2020, despite COVID, you nearly achieved reelection. The crowning jewel of your life is your victory in 2024. Facing multiple indictments, convictions, and jail time, you defeated every primary opponent, forced Biden to drop out and defeated his sycophant Kamala Harris. Even when defeat seems all but certain, you secured the inside straight for Americans. Thus, you are the Soldier. If you are the last living Townie, the Town will win. You win with the Town.

Mag1cman - You are Stephen Miller. As the current Deputy Chief of Staff Policy and former Director of Speechwriting, you pawprints are on all of the administration’s policy. Your influence is rooted in words—how they are chosen, repeated, and weaponized to define the agenda. You translate instinct into doctrine. Where the president operates on intuition and confrontation, you give those instincts structure—turning them into executive orders, policy rationales, and talking points that can survive legal scrutiny and public debate. Immigration, border security, nationalism, and sovereignty are not just policy areas for you; they are the backbone of the administration’s message, and you articulate them relentlessly. Mass deportations were your pet project. You were key to Maduro’s abduction. As a loyalist, you keep the administration on track. For this reason, you are the Messenger. Each night, you may send a message of your choice to a player. You win with the Town.

Thoth - You are Rudy Giuliani. In the 1980s, you pioneered the use of the RICO Act to prosecute mob bosses. As the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, you ended the mob regime and brought order to New York City. Eventually, you were elected mayor and were credited with reducing violent crime in NYC even thought you faced controversy for your stop and frisk policy. With your leadership on 9/11, NYC healed, and you were regarded as America’s mayor. It is a disgrace that Americans have forgotten your contributions to America. The State of New York disbarred you. A federal jury found you liable for defamation for making false statements about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, ordering you to pay approximately millions in damages — millions which you do not have. The weaponization forced you to concede. But as always, the truth prevails. Georgia officials recently admitted they mishandled mail in ballots and they should not have legally counted under the law. Consequently, you are the DP4 Innocent Child. On DP4, you will be publicly announced as Town. You win with the Town.

REF - You are Sarah Palin. You served as Governor of Alaska becoming the youngest person and the first woman to hold the office in your state. You were arguably MAGA before MAGA began with Donald Trump. Over the years, your speeches and Trump’s campaign rallies hit the same themes: opposition to Obamacare, concern about radical Islamic terrorism, criticism of Obama’s foreign policy and treatment of veterans, and a focus on immigration. Both of you speak in a proudly politically incorrect style, using bold, confrontational language to energize supporters. Trump’s “Make America Great Again” slogan mirrors your rallying cry to “take our country back.” Both of you consistently attack what you call the “lame-stream media,” with Trump pointing to reporters as “dishonest” and “treacherous” at his events, and you gleefully highlighting their reactions when endorsing him in Ames, Iowa. You were one of the first major politicians and former Governors to endorse Trump, and have stuck with him throughout the last decade. Thus, you are the 1x Governor. One time before the DP ends, you may change the lynch to a no lynch. You may not use it on yourself. You win with the Town.

Banana - You are Russell Vought. You are the Trump administration’s budget czar — the person responsible for translating presidential priorities into the federal budget and controlling how billions of dollars flow through the government. As the Director of the Office of Management and Budget, you oversaw every aspect of federal spending, from defense to domestic programs, making sure resources reflected the administration’s goals. You were key to the efforts of DOGE, often defending controversial choices before Congress and the public. You weren’t just a numbers person; you were the gatekeeper, shaping which priorities rose to the top and which were scaled back. In doing so, you became a central figure in executing the administration’s agenda, controlling the levers of government spending, and making the abstract numbers of the federal budget into a powerful tool for policy outlined in Project 2025: the initiative designed to prepare a blueprint for a seamless transition and policy implementation for a potential second Trump administration. For this season, you are the Apportioner. Each night, you may visit player. If that player were to die that night, their death will be delayed until the following night. You win with the Town.

Whiteflame - You are Mike Lindell. You are a prominent businessman and Republican political activist, best known as the founder of MyPillow and for your staunch support of President Donald Trump. From the moment you met Trump during the 2016 campaign, you became an ardent and vocal supporter. You served as a warm-up speaker at many Trump rallies and co-chaired his Minnesota campaign, while Trump publicly praised both you and your company. After the 2020 election, you became a leading figure in efforts to challenge the results, using your platform to advance false claims of widespread fraud and foreign interference, but because courts refused to even hear the cases, your evidence was never heard. Your loyalty to Trump brought significant legal and financial consequences: major retailers stopped carrying MyPillow products and your revenue dropped. Despite these setbacks, you have remained a loyal Trump supporter and defended him publically, to which Trump has supported you for Governor of one of the most corrupt states: Minnesota. Hopefully you win and bring the fraudsters and professional agitators to justice. Because of these reasons, you are the 1x Dreamer. One night, if you are not visited, you will receive a list of 3 names. At least one of those players will be mafia. You win with the Town.

Wylted - You are Sheriff Joe Arpaio. You are Joe Arpaio, a longtime law enforcement figure in Maricopa County, Arizona. You built a national reputation for your hardline approach to crime, emphasizing strict enforcement, tough sentencing, and a highly visible “law-and-order” style. You were particularly known for your focus on immigration enforcement, often targeting undocumented immigrants through aggressive patrols and workplace raids. These policies earned you nicknames like “America’s Toughest Sheriff,” while also drawing widespread legal and public scrutiny. You also became politically active, aligning yourself with conservative causes and figures, including Donald Trump, who pardoned you in 2017 after you were convicted of criminal contempt for defying a court order in an immigration-related case. Your career is defined by your identity as a hardline enforcer of the law, and a leader in deportation of illegal aliens. Thus, you are the Investigative JOAT - 1x Cop, 1x Tracker, 1x Watcher. You may investigate a player’s alignment, learn who a player visited or learn who visited a player. You win with the Town.

TOWN WINS

I’m really saddened by the fact that this game ended as fast as it did. Scum have only themselves to blame. They just completely imploded. In the OP, I said;

”There is a theme split in this game. Mafia will be given the opportunity to ask 4 questions, which I will answer truthfully. All 4 can be about characters or roles, or any combination of the two as long as they add up to 4. 

I am going to do something new this time. I will answer any and all questions about hypothetical roles and their interactions with the caveat that it doesn’t mean the role exists in the game (I will only answer questions in PMs as hypotheticals). Also note that different phrasing of questions may lead to different answers based on how I understand the question. It will be easier if you be as specific as possible in your questions.”

Scum misinterpreted the first paragraph as generic questions about how roles would hypothetically work. But if that was the case, why would I say the second paragraph. I felt I was very clear that scum could ask if a character or role existed in the game and I would truthfully answer yes or no. Don’t know how much clearer I could be.

Regardless, even if scum don’t use the 4 questions at all, it was asinine to claim Cop there, when it is literally one of the most common roles in the game. That combined with the scum PM being a ghost town, it makes complete sense why the mafia team lost in a landslide. Oh, straight claiming your character was also a poor decision. And by the end of the game it showed. Everyone was right on that the theme was MAGA vs people who converted to MAGA/former MAGA opponents.

All in all, I was hoping this game would last longer as this theme is one everyone should honestly know about. I thought the balance was pretty fair; I also had Luna check it too. But as always, I am open to constructive criticism.

Official Vote Count:

Mago (4/4) - Banana, Shining, Magic, WF

Magic (1/4) - Mago

Magoroth was lynched. He was…GUILTY. Endgame up in a little bit

STOP POSTING

Official Vote Count:

Mago (3/4) - Banana, Shining, Magic

Magic (1/4) - Mago

Official Vote Count:

Mago (2/4) - Banana, Shining

Magic (1/4) - Mago

Official Vote Count:

Magic (2/4) - Whiteflame, Mago

Mago (2/4) - Banana, Shining

Official Vote Count:

Magic (2/4) - Whiteflame, Mago

Mago (1/4) - Banana

Official Vote Count:

Magic (2/4) - Whiteflame, Mago

Lynched DP1:

Kohai - You are Marco Rubio. In President Donald Trump’s second administration, you have taken on an unusually large and influential set of roles that go far beyond the typical single Cabinet post. You were nominated by Trump and unanimously confirmed by the Senate as U.S. Secretary of State. In this role you are deeply involved in shaping administration strategy on issues such as Latin America and Maduro’s ouster. In addition to your formal Cabinet position, you have served as acting National Security Adviser, advising the president on security strategy and coordinating the National Security Council, You also took on responsibilities tied to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) as acting administrator during its winding down and were recently appointed acting Archivist of the United States, overseeing the National Archives. Your career has been very distinguished, but as always, with great power comes great responsibility. Because of your multiple positions, you are the Manipulative JOAT: 1x Roleblocker, 1x Redirector, 1x Deflector. You win with the Mafia.

Died NP1:

Thoth - You are Rudy Giuliani. In the 1980s, you pioneered the use of the RICO Act to prosecute mob bosses. As the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, you ended the mob regime and brought order to New York City. Eventually, you were elected mayor and were credited with reducing violent crime in NYC even thought you faced controversy for your stop and frisk policy. With your leadership on 9/11, NYC healed, and you were regarded as America’s mayor. It is a disgrace that Americans have forgotten your contributions to America. The State of New York disbarred you. A federal jury found you liable for defamation for making false statements about Georgia election workers Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss, ordering you to pay approximately millions in damages — millions which you do not have. The weaponization forced you to concede. But as always, the truth prevails. Georgia officials recently admitted they mishandled mail in ballots and they should not have legally counted under the law. Consequently, you are the DP4 Innocent Child. On DP4, you will be publicly announced as Town. You win with the Town.

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Remaining Players:

1) Banana

2) Wylted

3) Magoroth

4) Mag1cman

5) Whiteflame

6) Shining

7) REF

The Day Phase will end in 72 hours on Monday January 19th at 3:30pm CST.

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