Kohai

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 10:52 PM (post #101)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/11/2026 at 9:46 PM (post #100)

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 10:44 PM (post #96)

Man.. Can we please get engagement here? Its Lylo under a timer...

I know. Thats the one thing that bothers me on this site.

On sites like MU you get 500 posts a day and here we are like a snail’s pace

I will say it would have been reallllly fucking great to get stronger engagement from Luna right now. I should have my thing wrapped up shortly. It was a 23 page contract I was digging through and I gotta consolidate the info I got into an email now but I should be able to turn focus to this game soon.

Yeah the lack of engagement by Luna js bothering me

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 10:44 PM (post #96)

Man.. Can we please get engagement here? Its Lylo under a timer...

I know. Thats the one thing that bothers me on this site.

On sites like MU you get 500 posts a day and here we are like a snail’s pace

I think lynching Thoth is the best because in a w!Thoth we force scum to resolve Luna for us.

The WIfOm is why does w!Wf claim vanillaized knowing full well that’ll draw major attention to himself?

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/11/2026 at 10:23 PM (post #92)

I should be clear, when I said I'm favoring Kohai, I mean as a lynch.

Walk me through your worldview. From your POV the mafia PR is

Vanillaizer and Blackmailer with one of those having a popular modifier

Thats just way too OP

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/11/2026 at 10:05 PM (post #87)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/11/2026 at 9:54 PM (post #86)

tin foil theory

-Scum got Thoth’s role and Thoth is the actual cop

-Scum silenced Thoth

Again, though, in that case... would Thoth hold off voting Luna at all? Would any of us seriously consider anyone else if we were Silenced like this, or hold off on voting? I'm not going to argue that it's impossible, I'm just baffled that Thoth would hop on, saying he's been Blackmailed, and then not post a vote instantly upon reading Luna's claim.

That is the other side that bothers me

tin foil theory

-Scum got Thoth’s role and Thoth is the actual cop

-Scum silenced Thoth

Virginia pursuing criminal actions does indicate possible cop abilities??

Thinking does Virginia Giuffre make sense as a plausible cop?

Virginia Lee Roberts Giuffre (/ˈdʒuːfreɪ/ JOO-fray; née Roberts; 9 August 1983 – 25 April 2025) was an American and Australian advocate for survivors of sex trafficking and one of the most prominent accusers of Jeffrey Epstein.[1]Giuffre provided detailed allegations to media outlets about Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. She alleged that Epstein ran a trafficking ring, outsourcing girls for sexual services.

Virginia was one of the key players in exposing the Epstein ring and

Giuffre pursued criminal and civil actions against Epstein and Maxwell.[9] In 2015, she sued Maxwell for defamation. The case was settled in 2017 for an undisclosed sum.[1] In 2015, Giuffre founded Victims Refuse Silence, a United States-based non-profit organization supporting survivors of abuse, which relaunched as Speak Out, Act, Reclaim (SOAR) in 2021. In 2014, she claimed Alan Dershowitz had sexually abused her (which he denied). After multiple lawsuits for defamation were filed between Giuffre and Dershowitz, both parties dropped their claims in 2022 and Giuffre said she "may have made a mistake" in identifying Dershowitz.[6]

i do feel paranoia about Luna. Mainly because

1) Noah died sussing him

2) Luna won multiple scum games in a row and last game fake claimed cop to get a win.

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 9:38 PM (post #80)

Voice if you atleast agree to focus on that group and please sort between me and WF. I will answer any questions asked and focus on this game when I have the other obligation handled.

GTMH if I was forced to vote outside Thoth right this second I’d vote wf. That said there’s a lot of WIfOM bothering me about that

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 9:37 PM (post #79)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/11/2026 at 8:30 PM (post #78)

less than a day and half remain

Yeah. Im crawling through a contract right now drafting an email for that commercial rental thing I mentioned the other day. I am popping back into this thread to talk but I really do feel that we should eliminate between You, Me and WF today.

Sadly we have to get exactly every single town member on a scum to have a chance and time is limited. Engagement is not what it should be right now in this situation.

I do see your point in eliminating outside Luna / Thoth. That said in a w!Thoth world we would be able to have more clarity on theme split and scum is forced to either shoot Luna and clear you or shoot outside Luna which also narrows Poe

less than a day and half remain

Graveyard

2x doctor

Singer

Inventor

2x redirector

Claims

Popular - Confirmed

Vanilla

1x bp

Cop

1 unclaimed role

Mafia

Known to have at least a blackmailer possibly blackmailer + vanillaizer

==

This means either vanilla, BP, or cop is lying. Thoth’s role claim is unknown

Important

I confirmed with the host that if mafia can force a win they will win the game.

We know the blackmailer is probably a silencer of some sort. If this is the case then in a t!Thoth world he can vote because without his vote scum win

1. Helz
2. Kohai
3. Lunatic
4. whiteflame
5. Thoth

If thoth is scum the possible pairings

Thoth / Helz

Thoth / Luna

Thoth / wf

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/11/2026 at 4:40 PM (post #56)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/11/2026 at 4:39 PM (post #53)

Wait. If someone is blackmailed / silenced into not voting or posting wouldn’t that mean town loses immediately in LyLo?

Based on last DP, he can still vote. That being said, if the circumstances were so obvious that it was just Luna using Thoth's PM, I would expect him to have immediately VTL'd Luna.

This. And that’s what bothering me rn

Wait. If someone is blackmailed / silenced into not voting or posting wouldn’t that mean town loses immediately in LyLo?

My biggest tin foil hat theory is Thoth is the real cop and scum silenced them so he can’t CC.

Remind me what soldier is?

I did not receive anytbing

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/11/2026 at 3:15 PM (post #40)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/11/2026 at 3:02 PM (post #39)

Thoth almost certainly is scum here. I have rarely seen a blackmailer that’s more than 1 shot.

Much as I have a lot of misgivings about Thoth, I disagree with this. The Blackmailer here is essentially a Silencer that allows the target to out that they were Silenced and gives them an opportunity to vote once. It is not at all unusual for a Silencer to have multiple shots. That doesn’t make him town and I believe this is likely a gambit too, but let’s not play the game of what we think is likely for this role after getting it so clearly wrong last DP.

This is true.

Thoth almost certainly is scum here. I have rarely seen a blackmailer that’s more than 1 shot.

Thoth sticks out

-Mag died n1 voting him

-Is the only accuser

Wf

-I don’t buy vanillaizer / blackmail

-I don’t buy two protective roles.

Gonna look at their interactions

So probably exactly wf / Thoth

I knew Thoth’s flavor stuck out

Well that finally clears things up

From those 6 teams gonna start looking for pairings / unpairings

Possible teams

Helz / Lunatic

Helz / WF

Helz / Thoth

Lunatic / WF

Lunatic / Thoth

Whiteflame / Thoth

Especially with 3 negative utility roles

Town

Inventor

2x redirector

2x doctor

Singer

Claims

Popular

Bullet proof

Either VT / PGO

Mafia

Known to have a black mailer and possibly vanillaizer

Thjs balance is so fucked up

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/11/2026 at 10:43 AM (post #10)

Meant that as a response to your theme split theory.

Fair. What do you suppose is the split