Full claim time
Full claim time
Epstein’s Island Mafia Claimslist
Graveyard
Lynched DP1:
Shining - You are Bill Gates. In addition to your work on technology, you have been involved in many healthcare initiatives, accelerating access to vaccines and injecting people with microchips to track them and keep them safe. Because of your work improving global health, you are the 2x Doctor, which is also the name of a game you may have played with children on Epstein’s Island. On two nights of your choosing, you can select a player to protect from fatal attacks. You win with the Town.
Died NP1:
Magoroth - You are Michael Jackson. Often called the “King of Pop,” you are widely regarded as one of the most culturally significant figures of the 20th century. You were also accused of sexually abusing at least 10 children, and that’s before we even get to the Epstein connections. Because you are widely known for your music, you are the Singer. If you die at night, a random living town player’s role PM will be revealed to the mafia. You win with the Town.
Lynched DP2:
Mag1cman - You are Dean Kamen. In addition to being named hundreds of times in the Epstein Files, you invented the Segway and hold over 1,000 patents. Therefore, you are the Inventor. You have the following inventions you can give out during the day: 1x Commuter, 1x Tracker, and 1x Watcher. You can only give out one item per day, and an item must be locked in on the day it’s given by the user who receives it for the coming night or it will expire. You win with the Town.
Died NP2:
NoAhLeEcLaRk - You are David Copperfield. Among other illusions, you temporarily vanished the Statue of Liberty and your property taxes for two private islands. Because you rely on misdirection to deceive the audience and shift their attention away from your connections with Epstein, you are the 2x Redirector. You can shift any player’s actions to target a player of your choosing. You win with the Town.
Living
Claims
Kohai- Bill Clinton- Popular, confirmed (post 4/95, dp1)
Helz- Ehud Barak- Either VT or PGO
whiteflame- DJT - BP - Claimed vanillaized
Unclaimed
Lunatic
Thoth
Accusers v accused as theme split?
Thoth’s flavor claim stands out as they’re the only ones who claimed an accuser
My main worry is a Helz / Luna team or a Luna / Thoth team.
Mag died n1 sussing Thoth and Noah was pushing Luna last DP.
the Big WIfOM question; Would wf claim vanillaized?
Well fuck. Almost certain it’s wf. Gotta check and want to make sure I don’t rush
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:45 AM (post #425)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/10/2026 at 11:42 PM (post #421)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/10/2026 at 10:42 PM (post #419)
Orrr. I just hammered. Lol
Eh I was gonna if you didn't lol
Ya know.. I have never hammered every day phase in a game before.
If Mafia had achievements that might be one I want to have. If I am right on Magic and you guys trust me I would not mind giving the hammer tomorrow :
But if we are weong im gonna put you, wf, and noah undsr my microscope
Well we will see what haooebs from there
VTL: Mag1cman
alright. Im ready to move on and get some rest.
L1
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:35 AM (post #410)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 11:33 PM (post #408)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:32 AM (post #406)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 11:29 PM (post #402)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/11/2026 at 12:26 AM (post #398)
I think it has to be 1 scum in Mag1c and WF. If we miss with Mag1c, then we lynch WF and go to final three unless something ground-shattering happens before then
Probkem is if we lynch wrong tomorrow is likely LyLo
True. Let me look at this again but if we have the option to not lynch then we could use Mylo to force scum to limit the pool and allow Mag1c to speak before we decide.
Probkem is we explocitly cannot no lynch. We are forced to mandatory lynch each day
Fuck man. I will verify.
This game feels very scum sided to me now >.<
It says it explicitly in day 1 thread
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:32 AM (post #406)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 11:29 PM (post #402)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/11/2026 at 12:26 AM (post #398)
I think it has to be 1 scum in Mag1c and WF. If we miss with Mag1c, then we lynch WF and go to final three unless something ground-shattering happens before then
Probkem is if we lynch wrong tomorrow is likely LyLo
True. Let me look at this again but if we have the option to not lynch then we could use Mylo to force scum to limit the pool and allow Mag1c to speak before we decide.
Probkem is we explocitly cannot no lynch. We are forced to mandatory lynch each day
Getting ready for bed. Rverhone ok if i put mag1c ar L1?
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:23 AM (post #395)
Occam's razor says that Mag1c is just scum. But I still have huge questions about WF's play given their claim. I duno.
My paranoia about the lack of push back on a Mag1c train is bothering me. Kinda my main points for today.
Same
But in a w!Mag1c world for him to claim and disappear means that he thinks his partner is in good shape.
Hmmm
If Mag1c is town I’m gonna take a hard look at NoAh especially with his inconsistent claims and another negative utility role
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/11/2026 at 12:21 AM (post #390)
This is just a tinfoil passing thought, but given the supposed weakness of town so far, is it plausible that scum have a day rolecop and silenced Mag1c because they checked him and didn't want him to share his results?
That would make scum even more powerful
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:19 AM (post #386)
If I was blackmailed and told all I could do was vote I would probably go as far as to try to make morse code with votes or some crazy shit if not in the very least shift votes around to use it as a way to communicate as I would hope someone would work with me and create a path for me to communicate through my votes.
Yeah. Something doesn’t add up
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/11/2026 at 12:18 AM (post #384)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 10:14 PM (post #381)
Another thing into consideration - When I was scum with a blackmailer we were explicitly trying to derail the target because we wanted to get in the extra kill. I don’t see anyone pushing back on this wagon.
That said the lack of pushback does bother me some
There was considerable pushback in the beginning, seems like a train v train with magic vs helz. Helz is mostly winning because magic is unable to respond to anything, but there definitely is some real commit to the bit going on if both are the same affil and hard bussing, so there's a chance there is TvT or TvS in helz magic. That said, if we are wrong we have to accept the idea that either whiteflame was lying or that there was a vanillizer and a blackmailer in the same night. Which I guess is possible, but it seems as odd to me as it is to everyone else
If Helz and Mag1c are v/v then who’s scum?
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/11/2026 at 12:17 AM (post #382)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/10/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #378)
Caught up. Magic never answered when I asked about the Helz vote, and I’ve been waiting a while. I get that he’s blackmailed or silenced or whatever it is, but he was still able to post a vote, so I’d expect him to manage a yes or no on why. He is either unable to from the blackmail or he is lying about the blackmail.
Kohai’s point about blackmailed players normally not being allowed to claim is one to take into consideration, however that still very much points to one of magic and whiteflame lilely lying. And WF’s BP claim makes sense with the flavor, so I’m sticking with my WF town read. That leaves magic as the one that doesn’t add up between them.
WF, fair enough on being wary of me for not claiming. I’m happy to claim if people want it, but I’d rather not hand scum more info if we don’t need it right now.
Noah, still waiting on an actual reason for the sus beyond me “explaining too fast.”
Ready to vote magic and move on when we feel we've gotten sufficient nutrients from this phase.
So blackmailer is something I am very familiar with. Something on my mind is very exactly the conditions.
Lets say hypothetically they were allowed to say they were blackmailed. And then on top of that they still have freedom to vote. Note they voted twice so they do certainly have that freedom. Why would they not unvote and revote and vote other people as a form of communication if thats all thats allowed to them?
Excellent points
Another thing into consideration - When I was scum with a blackmailer we were explicitly trying to derail the target because we wanted to get in the extra kill. I don’t see anyone pushing back on this wagon.
That said the lack of pushback does bother me some
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/11/2026 at 12:11 AM (post #378)
Ready to vote magic and move on when we feel we've gotten sufficient nutrients from this phase.
Sadly agreed. I’m ready to hammer. We’ve been well past the budget for this day anyway.
Since almost everhone is here just need to make sure we have actions in
With what has been claimed we may as well be playing mountainous
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/11/2026 at 12:06 AM (post #375)
I think I am safe to claim my character. I am Virginia Giuffre.
Hmmm... first person to claim a victim of Epstein. That's interesting.
Agreed. Definitely sticks out
We have to be missing something here. There’s too many negative town roles to make sense
Epstein’s Island Mafia Claimslist
Graveyard
Lynched DP1:
Shining - You are Bill Gates. In addition to your work on technology, you have been involved in many healthcare initiatives, accelerating access to vaccines and injecting people with microchips to track them and keep them safe. Because of your work improving global health, you are the 2x Doctor, which is also the name of a game you may have played with children on Epstein’s Island. On two nights of your choosing, you can select a player to protect from fatal attacks. You win with the Town.
Died NP1:
Magoroth - You are Michael Jackson. Often called the “King of Pop,” you are widely regarded as one of the most culturally significant figures of the 20th century. You were also accused of sexually abusing at least 10 children, and that’s before we even get to the Epstein connections. Because you are widely known for your music, you are the Singer. If you die at night, a random living town player’s role PM will be revealed to the mafia. You win with the Town.
Living
Claims
Kohai- Bill Clinton- Popular, confirmed (post 4/95, dp1)
Helz- Ehud Barak- Either VT or PGO
NoAhLeEcLaRk- David Copperfield (post 6, dp1) 2x redirector
whiteflame- DJT - BP - Claimed vanillaized
Mag1cman - Claimed to have been blackmailed
Thoth - Virginia Giuffre
Unclaimed
Lunatic
Mag1cman
Epstein’s Island Mafia Claimslist
Graveyard
Lynched DP1:
Shining - You are Bill Gates. In addition to your work on technology, you have been involved in many healthcare initiatives, accelerating access to vaccines and injecting people with microchips to track them and keep them safe. Because of your work improving global health, you are the 2x Doctor, which is also the name of a game you may have played with children on Epstein’s Island. On two nights of your choosing, you can select a player to protect from fatal attacks. You win with the Town.
Died NP1:
Magoroth - You are Michael Jackson. Often called the “King of Pop,” you are widely regarded as one of the most culturally significant figures of the 20th century. You were also accused of sexually abusing at least 10 children, and that’s before we even get to the Epstein connections. Because you are widely known for your music, you are the Singer. If you die at night, a random living town player’s role PM will be revealed to the mafia. You win with the Town.
Living
Claims
Kohai- Bill Clinton- Popular, confirmed (post 4/95, dp1)
Helz- Ehud Barak- Either VT or PGO
NoAhLeEcLaRk- David Copperfield (post 6, dp1) 2x redirector
whiteflame- DJT - BP - Claimed vanillaized
Mag1cman - Claimed to have been blackmailed
Unclaimed
Lunatic
Mag1cman
Thoth
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 11:55 PM (post #363)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 11:53 PM (post #362)
Wait so we have a bp and a 2x doctor?
Yes. If it helps to know, mine required me to say when I wanted to use it. Worst type of BP IMO, have to predict when I'd become the target of the NK and if I'm wrong it's useless
Ugh. Town is pretty under powered here.
DJT checks out as I’d be shocked if he weren’t in the game. BP checks off also