Wait so we have a bp and a 2x doctor?
Wait so we have a bp and a 2x doctor?
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 11:33 PM (post #350)
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 11:31 PM (post #349)
Oh ok, so Martyr
Thank you Pie
Not far off, but that would be on brand in its own way.
Ugh I think we do need a claim at very least so we can have better balance view
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/10/2026 at 11:12 PM (post #335)
I have the paranoia of how easily everyone is accepting of a Mag1c lynch and I recognize that it is paranoia. Figure we need to move soon regardless. Duno who is around at this hour.
+1 on tbe paranoia.
I also question if either w!wf or Mag1c would claim knowing full will it’ll draw attention to game balance.
UNVOTE
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #321)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:32 PM (post #320)
You, Mag1c and Luna are the only ones that haven’t. Unless y’all have some super god powers then we are very under powered here.
Again, one of the current claimants has most likely lied.
Which one and why?
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:32 PM (post #319)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:31 PM (post #318)
Problem is this is still really powerful especially I. The face of all this negative utility
Not everyone has claimed, and I figure there is at least one liar among the claimants.
You, Mag1c and Luna are the only ones that haven’t. Unless y’all have some super god powers then we are very under powered here.
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:27 PM (post #316)
I don't get all the talk around post #100 about Blackmailer + Vanillaizer being OP. It's not that OP if scum have nothing else. Wonky, but not OP
Problem is this is still really powerful especially I. The face of all this negative utility
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #312)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 8:09 PM (post #311)
Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: I someone who is black mailed typically is not allowed to claim that they were blackmailed
It could just be a variant of silencer, but it is sus
True. But if there’s a town role that could lead to someone being silenced then they should claim
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 9:05 PM (post #310)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:01 PM (post #94)
Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: Troocallt someone who is black mailed isn’t even allowed to claim that.
Troocallt ?
Damn I’m drunk. I meant to write
Wait one thing about mag1c’s claim: I someone who is black mailed typically is not allowed to claim that they were blackmailed
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/10/2026 at 8:40 PM (post #308)
I should have checked whether or not that game had a Vanillaizer before posting that, but it did not.
It didn't, but the fact remains that I'm always thinking about such roles when I have a role that can confirm myself or confirm my role.
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 6:38 PM (post #300)
So do we believe that Mag1cman is scum?
Either he or wf are scum
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 6:03 PM (post #298)
Well our suspicion is that Mag1cman and Helz are scum, so I thought if they did know that say they were both are scum, Mag1cman was voting for Helz to cover himself up and possibly deflect the votes off him
I don’t think they’re scum together.
this their doesn’t really make much since
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 5:54 PM (post #296)
Does the other mafia know who his/her partner is ?
You know that I know that you already know the answer to this question
Has w!Magc ever faked something like that??
Wait one question: Would scum actually fake claim either vanillaized or blackmailed after vanillaizeig or blackmailing someone?
Less than 4 days remaining and 12 hours remaining in our day 2 budget. We need to make progress
We have less than 4 days remaining
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 1:37 PM (post #284)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 1:21 PM (post #283)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 12:54 PM (post #282)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 12:51 PM (post #281)
Typically with blackmailers there’s usually a restriction that you can’t force them to not post. Also there’s generally restriction from claiming to have been blackmailed.
Yeah, that's what I've read, too. I've seen different versions, but they usually aren't this restrictive.
Right. And if he couldn’t post then he already broke the blackmail terms
Yep, it looks like a big problem for his case. I'm pretty sure we'll go with him in the end, just want to get everyone at least posting some reads before we go through with it.
Worst case if he actually is blackmailed and he is town and fails and we ML then we potentially lose two town members. Hence Mag1c may have to be the lynch regardless.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/10/2026 at 12:54 PM (post #282)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/10/2026 at 12:51 PM (post #281)
Typically with blackmailers there’s usually a restriction that you can’t force them to not post. Also there’s generally restriction from claiming to have been blackmailed.
Yeah, that's what I've read, too. I've seen different versions, but they usually aren't this restrictive.
Right. And if he couldn’t post then he already broke the blackmail terms
Typically with blackmailers there’s usually a restriction that you can’t force them to not post. Also there’s generally restriction from claiming to have been blackmailed.
Anyway I’m off to bed for real now
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 12:18 AM (post #274)
I was going to use my ability on the first night, but Savant did not reply to my message. I asked how it would work if I used it on you and Lunatic. My role is a 2x Redirector, and I am only allowed to use my action on odd-numbered nights, twice the whole game. Also, I am on the town team, so I win when the town wins.
That’s not what I’m asking. I am asking for the justification for *why* you have thst role
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 12:13 AM (post #269)
I was gonna perform an action on night 1, but Savant never replied back on how it would work if say, I did it between you and Lunatic, but my role is
2x Redirector- to which I can perform my action only on odd nights
I win with the town
Can you re phrase justification?
Obv don’t claim but can you tell if your action was messed with?
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/10/2026 at 12:06 AM (post #261)
Every odd night once
Probkem I’m having with solving you is how inconsistent your claim has been.
2x
then it was odd night
didn’t target anyone
thise are not the same claims
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 11:59 PM (post #257)
I don't have a plan for tonight, I can only perform my action on odd nights.
Wait are you two shot or odd night or 2 shot odd night? Your being very inconsistent with your claims
Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/9/2026 at 11:44 PM (post #244)
Originally Posted by Helz on 10/9/2026 at 6:33 PM (post #56)
I will say after this game we really need to outline community standards of what is or is not bastard.
Facts
ive literally tried that
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/mafia-discussion/posts/1l/bastard-games