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whiteflame wrote:

Helz wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

I agree, though a bunch of roles like this is necessarily going to fall prey to (2). This role and others like it exist as roles used in actual games. I'm not saying that it's unimportant as a result (part of the reason I didn't use it in my game is that I didn't want to have to deal with determining whether any given post by Luna was "drunk enough"), just that it's going to be generally hard to accept the existence of a role like this regardless of whether it's real or not.
3 points as clear as I can make them

1- Such a role is borderline offensive to the player. They are placed into a game with a constraint by the host, not the scum and nerfed to have no role at all on top of it. I would almost certainly refuse to play if a host gave me that.
2- Such a role is literally bastard. Its the hosts decision on a super vague demand if the condition is met or not and someone will die if they do not meet it impacting the game. So the host has direct impact on the game.
3- This is a modkill function and the very last game Lunatic was super pissed about a mod kill. It would be wild for them to then turn around and cram a modkill obligation on a player that is not even any sort of rule break kinda deal.

Im pretty stuck on this.

Regarding 1 and 2, again, I'm not arguing that the role itself is a good role or one that people should be using in the game, only that it exists as a role that gets some play. I agree, it's the reason I didn't use the role in my game despite considering it and having a character all prepped out to use it. And if your point is that, as a result, you don't expect a mod would include this role and instead would more easily believe that a player would fake it, I agree with that as well. The only reason why this case is different is because I literally discussed this exact role with Luna in my Frieren game, which is why I'm having more trouble just buying into that.

Regarding 3, yeah, that's a sticking point. Even if I believe Luna would want to have some fun with this role, I can't see him opening the door for a potential modkill. He'd have to be absolutely confident that Kohai wouldn't fuck it up.


Two be kleae Luna did state thattt it really only had to be une or two words. Ive beeen a bit tooo deeeo into my karacter.


+My autistik brain enterpreted to mean every post

Kohai


Helz wrote:
At one point I did question if we should just kill you to be safe because we were not worried about the others. My rolestopper function made a huge difference in what we had to worry about.


just kirious how worried were y’all ov me after i klaimed

Kohai


Banana wrote:

Helz wrote:
You are around and posting, but its void of content. There is nothing I see that shows you are hunting or lets me know why you think what you think. Looking for ways to read you.

Just hanging out and existing in the thread is not a good look.
this

+1. Evn though I know I’m probly doooned I’m gunna at least try and stay aktive so u can get max read off my ml

Kohai


Thoth wrote:
Hey there, wylted. Good to see you subbing for Casey. You forgot your car the last time you came over to my place to purchase some goods. Please come collect it. I have your keys.


thats not wtlted’s car. Not offencive enuff.

Kohai


Mikal wrote:
How do you know luna is looking for a replacement and why would you ask about casey specifically?


I asked if eye should just modkill mvself nd he said no nd mentioned hed hope id replace Casey since id be the first town death

Kohai


ILikePie5 wrote:

Kohai wrote:
Re #5: I just got confurmation that I am not consideredd vinilla. Im essssenrjakly a named town.

Wym essentially? Youre either a named townie or not. What is the exact name Luna used for your role?


tiwn drunkk

Kohai


Helz wrote:
Not much way to pressure Casey. They made 1 post and have not been back.

Luna iz looking 4 replacement. If Dey can’t find ny1 luna vill sub me n for that slot. Hopefully I vont have a trxt restriction and kan talk normally

Kohai


whiteflame wrote:

Kohai wrote:

whiteflame wrote:.
Kohai, just explain where your head was at. What were you aiming to do by testing reactions? Is there nothing to glean from them at all? Just lay out your thinking here, at least give us some reads to function from.

Hvnestly n0t en de best mindset. I konpletelt hallucinated the 3 lie optchions. I h@d to figure out how to git out of the hallucination nd et just made it worse.

I acknowledge that it didn't go over well, but you said you were trying to test reactions. To what? The 3 lie options, or something else?


I didnt think admittting to hallucinating wuld not go over well. I leid about makinng a reaktion test.


thatt said vncw i flip tuwn i am sure theee will be tuns of AI reaktions to actually go thru


Kohai

I vill @lso state that part of meye issue iz reading issues vhere i misead something or hallucinate something in de text that’s not even there

Kohai


whiteflame wrote:.
Kohai, just explain where your head was at. What were you aiming to do by testing reactions? Is there nothing to glean from them at all? Just lay out your thinking here, at least give us some reads to function from.


Hvnestly n0t en de best mindset. I konpletelt hallucinated the 3 lie optchions. I h@d to figure out how to git out of the hallucination nd et just made it worse.



Kohai


Banana wrote:

Kohai wrote:

Banana wrote:
if kohai is town I think there is scum in helz/mikal/wryly who are all pushing this logic pretty heavy

Agreeed. I ammm so fvcking tempted to just post mey role PM nd modkill myvelf, but I dunt think dat would be fair to luna or otherz.

Truth be told, I'm just a fvcking autistic retard and am completely dune with mafia. I kompletely misr3ad whut luna. st@ted to me.

@ least my lycnh will give tuwn valuable info.

im just gonna stick to cocding nd deb8s. I'm way too autistick for mafia

none of this makes me scum read u lol mistakes happen we all make em i have too


yea, but it just gets me mislynched. Im just too fcking autistic for dis game.

Kohai


Banana wrote:
if kohai is town I think there is scum in helz/mikal/wryly who are all pushing this logic pretty heavy


Agreeed. I ammm so fvcking tempted to just post mey role PM nd modkill myvelf, but I dunt think dat would be fair to luna or otherz.


Truth be told, I'm just a fvcking autistic retard and am completely dune with mafia. I kompletely misr3ad whut luna. st@ted to me.


@ least my lycnh will give tuwn valuable info.


im just gonna stick to cocding nd deb8s. I'm way too autistick for mafia

Kohai

ftr i kompletely li3d about de number. Luna did n0t give me de exakt number. I w@nted to tst for reaktions. Dat sa!d de first p@rt is tru

Kohai


Mikal wrote:
We can discuss it in moderatorion but i am unilaterally saying no. You are not restricting admin rights because I added a hyper link.

F@ir. I'll drop it.

Kohai


Mikal wrote:
We are not pushing that through but we can discuss that in moderation. We gave you perms to push changes and site updates. Not make unilateral choices.

lets dropp this discussion and diskuss post game.

Kohai


Helz wrote:

Thoth wrote:
I think Kohai's first few posts were in Cyrillic, which points to Russian if you ask me, or possibly Ukrainian.
I did check some of that. There was a variety of languages. Most Slavic and there were also portions of just using a character map to inject random letters used in specific languages while speaking in english which made jibberish.


f nyune wants 2 kno dis is whut I uzed: https://russian.typeit.org/


Kohai


Wryly wrote:
Soooo we just suspend Mikal's on-site mod powers during mafia games no problem easy peasy



Yeah thats whut I'm gunna start doing. Next batch if ur an admin or a m0d and alive in a game you still wont be able to delete / edit posts. Problim solved. But that will wait vntil post game

Kohai


Mikal wrote:
Last game and I got killed

I added a hyperlink this game and they were trying to yeet me

u kno i have a very strikt outlook on game integretyy. W3 may disagree, but editting ur posts can give an unfairr advantagdge especially since only modz and admins even have pemrs to edit / remove posts wh3n they are leving players

Kohai


Mikal wrote:

"Bro, kohai and thoth are begging me to mod kill you. Its retarded as fuck. Pie does it one game and now this shit starts happening"


To beee clear:

1) The way luna postted their klaim was retarded

2) Pie's modkilll on luna was retardeddd


U literally deleted one ov ur posts. Thatss a kompletely different situation nd is 100% justified

Kohai


Thoth wrote:
Kohai wrote:
This game will be an open mechanical set up, meaning I will openly tell you all the mechanics of the game. There is however one catch: One of these mechanics, and only one, is a lie fed by the mafia team
It doesn't say that the scum team chose them from a list. The wording makes it sound like the scum team could have, and likely did, write the fake mechanic themselves. I'm not sure yet who first said that the Mafia team picked it from a list, but Helz suggested so in #396.


okayy this iz just a townslip from thoth IMO.


I askked luna for klarification. He mentionned that he gave skum a list of 3 lies and skum chose between the 3 lies.