Kohai

Shoresy

-Votes me

-Unvotes me

-Still calls me scum

This isn't serious

Shoresy wrote:

sup scum

VTL: Shoresy

OK this is just so painfully obvious

uh anyone home?

This game is living up to its name

Shoresy wrote:

VTL: Kohai

There:

I’m too lazy to care about this vote

VTL: JoeBob

Is eveyone too lazy to play this game

Mag1cman wrote:

wan't gonna tryhard anyway

That’s the spirit

I'm too lazy to play this game. Yawn

Thoth wrote:

Kohai wrote:

For clarification. You pick a character and you will have that character as your role

I got the sense from the OP that you were pooling the characters and would assign them randomly.

Sorry for the confusion. You pick your own characters. The characters you send me will be assigned to you.

Helz wrote:

Oh I get that. I just like the concept of players influencing the structures of games they enter as a design mechanic. The very concept of people picking what they think is fun in a game creates for a more enjoyable player experience.

Yeah. This will be quite a game.

Helz wrote:

Pretty wild style of game. Users create a role which is passed to someone else and the mods balance it out.

My favorite piece of it is that its the closest thing I have found that really identifies what people find fun in mafia games. There is lots of small details like users also have to make their own avatar using very low tech paint programs and such and its 100% anon which breaks meta but probably one of the greatest styles of Mafia I have personally encountered.

For clarification. You pick a character and you will have that character as your role

Magoroth wrote:

/in

Yay!!!

Welcome to bring your own role mafia game! This is a highly experimental game, and I cannot guarantee any balance. Instead of me picking a theme and creating characters and roles within that theme, you the player, will bring that to me. Every player will pick any character they want. I will then build a game around the characters and roles that you select.

When you sign up please DM me 2-3 characters you want to be in this game.

Game Information

1. The day phase will last for 72 hours and the night phase will last for 24 hours or until all night actions are in.
2. Bastard elements might exist
3. There are no anti-claim mechanics.
4. Third parties might exist

Game Mechanics

1. Use VTL: (Playername) or Vote: (Playername) to eliminate a player or use our site's voting tool.
2. Lynching mechanics:
3. Plurality lynch: If a player does not reach majority by the EOD the wagon with the most votes will be lynched.
4. Tied wagons will be resolved via randomization.
5. No lynching is enabled
6. Self-voting is enabled
7. Factional kills are assigned and optional.
8. All factions have day chat. There are no mechanisms that will disable it
9. Twilight begins when a majority is reached. It lasts until the thread is locked and the flip is posted. Until this point, players may freely post in this game thread until I arrive to flip them. Votes and unvotes in this phase do not count.
10. MyLo/LyLo will not be announced.

Rules:

1. Follow all site-rules and use common sense.
2. Be respectful to your fellow players.
3. Breadcrumbing and role hinting is allowed; however, cryptography is permitted.
4. Since you brought your own role to the game, I highly encourage you to claim your character and roleplay.
5. OGI and angleshooting is extremely banned and will not be taken kindly.
6. Dead means dead. Once you are dead, stop communicating with living players. Exceptions: Mafia will become treestumped and allowed to continue communicating in factional PMs (very standard around here).
7. The most important rule of all: Do not ever reference this game outside the game thread and proper channels!!!

Modkillable Offenses

These offenses are modkillable:

1. Directly quoting your role PM in part or in full.
2. Utilizing AI chatbots like chatgpt to paraphrase your role PM.
3. Directly quoting mod communications. Referencing is fine; however, directly quoting is not.
4. Editing or deleting your posts.

Note this is not an exhaustive list. In the event of a modkill the day phase will continue.

Order of Operations

Player's alignment will be randomized before assigning roles and designing the game. This prevents characters from being AI. Night actions are resolved via natural action resolution. The only modification I'm making is to the catastrophic rule. In the event of a catastrophic conflict (ie a mafia role blocker and a town roleb blocker) the mafia action will take priority over the town action (this is fairly standard practice here).

Win Conditions:

Town: Town wins when all threats to town have been eliminated and at least one town aligned player is alive when this condition is met.

Mafia: Mafia wins when they overpower town or nothing can prevent this from happening.

Third parties: May have their own win condition

SIgnups

Looking for 9-15 players.

1. Thoth

2. Mikal

3. Whiteflame

4. Lunatic

5.iLikePie

6.Magoroth

7.Wylted

8.Banana

9. Shining

10. Wrylyl

Thoth wrote:

What is preventable is presenting those OGI reads to the thread. Instead of stating “I think player x is town because of an OGI issues” it is better to try and fabricate or find an in-game reason to support that read.

If I have ever been okay with OGI, it was only because this was the alternative and I never even considered that people would be okay with building a facade around OGI. Is this the standard suggestion on the big mafia sites?

Yes.

Current Games:

None

Sign-ups:

REF - Candace Owens Expanded Universe

Kohai - Mafia bot test

Magoroth - Lazy Mafia

In the Hopper:

Thoth - Blood on the Clocktower

Alyssa - Reality Scramble (custom theme)

Casey_Risk - TBD

Banana

Bullish

Shining

Savant - Epstein Island 

Mikal - re zero

Pie

Lunatic

Helz

On Hold:

AnonymousIcon

Wylted - Lulsec

Mag1cman

Over the past several games, there have been issues with OGI / Angleshooting and other types of behavior. We have gotten several new players and we want to keep this momentum going. That said, if we want to keep expanding, then I do believe some of our norms need to change epecially with OGI / Angleshooting as this has been a big point of criticism from newer players as well as myself. 

As most of you all know my modding philosophy, especially with mafia, tends to be more on the stringent side. When it comes to modding a mafia game, there is nothing I care about more than game integrity. In order to grow our mafia community I believe our site meta needs to change slightly. 

OGI / Out of Game Information

TLDR: no one should ever post anything that isn't about the game that a second player could reasonably make an alignment read based on. Period. 

OGI is extremely disruptive to a mafia game because it gives another player an unfair advantage and ultimately will harm the reputation of our site as our site grows and more outside people look into our games and consider joining. 

Sometimes OGI reads are bound to happen. This is inevitable. What is preventable is presenting those OGI reads to the thread. Instead of stating “I think player x is town because of an OGI issues” it is better to try and fabricate or find an in-game reason to support that read. 

Examples of what I think are acceptable: 

1. Player x is posting a lot in mason / neighbor chat but can’t be bothered to post in the thread and wasn’t around to lynch in EOD. This gives me scummy vibes 
2. Meta (obviously): Player x tends to do y as scum and he’s doing y in this game; ergo, he is probably scum. 

Examples of what I think is not acceptable

1. I have an OGI read that player x is {alignment}
2. Mentioning things happening in unrelated discord, debates, or forums (ie “Kohai is acting drunk in this game but just wrote a coherent debate argument”, “Player x is talking a lot in our discord but is avoiding posting in this game.”) 

Angleshooting 

Angleshooting is something I find to be even worse than OGI. Angleshooting is defined as doing things, or applying rules, in ways that they were not intended in order to gain an advantage. OGI is one example of angelshooting, but I’ve seen far worse things than that such as players directly quoting their win condition or editing and deleting their posts. In my opinion, this is never acceptable. 

Conclusion

Compared to other mafia spaces, our site has a unique meta. In many ways I think our meta is better, but in many ways it is worse. If we want to grow our community then eliminating, or at least significantly reducing, OGI and angleshooting is paramount to improving the health of our community. 

That said, every game mod has the power to create and enforce their own rule set as they see fit. On our site, mafia has always been its own self-contained section with unique rulesets.

Note: As long as I’ve been around the moderator team has never made an action based on something that happened in a mafia game. Unless there is some form of extreme rule violation that happens in a game I intend on keeping it that way. 

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Kohai1 wrote:

Helz wrote:

Tiny wish list on features

4- VTNL added to the mod bot. Apparently you can not vote to not eliminate right now. Thats not great.

The mod bot right now is a bit weird since there's two different drop downs. However, on the left where it says "Vote" you can select "Unvote" and "No lynch." No lynch is definitely possible with our bot. I'll work on refining the voting dropdown in the next push

Ah, I am just dumb. Usually what it boils down to.

But thanks for all your hard work. I really appreciate the changes your making.

You're not dumb. It's just very easy to miss.

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MeowMix wrote:

Ggwp. Enjoyed the game.

Thanks for the great hosting @Lunatic!

thanks for subbing in mate! Come play again hopefully the next one won’t be as chaotic lmao

+1

Regarding OoO: I think it’s easy to do basic types of operations without revealing too much. I’ve always defaulted to natural action resolution.

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whiteflame wrote:

Can we just acknowledge how silly it is that one of two Jews in the game got Christianity and converted the Jew character to the cult of Christianity? All hail the cult!

There's also that the only member of the LGBT community here rolled the LGBT community and refused to join the group that was all about inclusion. Silliness all around.

I'm actually LGBT lol

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Can we just acknowledge how silly it is that one of two Jews in the game got Christianity and converted the Jew character to the cult of Christianity? All hail the cult!

That's fucking hilarious.

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"giving you the same basic human rights as the rest of us. However that wasn’t enough for you was it? You had to keep adding letters didn’t you? While the groups original purpose of love and acceptance is out there, you have to keep being the center of attention and fighting for more and more rights that you already fucking have"

Oh god thats funny.

It really is.

Wryly wrote:

Okay dude what happened lol. Been waiting all game to ask you where you got the idea that mafia were given three choices.

I said I literally. fucking hallucinated. I think being forced to act drunk caused it

Thoth wrote:

How did Kohai put himself in the queue above me?

I've always been a head of you?

Current Games:

Lunatic - Sterotypes Mafia

Sign-ups:

REF - Candace Owens Expanded Universe

Magoroth - Lazy Mafia

In the Hopper:

REF - Candace Owens Expanded Universe

Kohai

Thoth - Blood on the Clocktower

Alyssa - Reality Scramble (custom theme)

Casey_Risk - TBD

Banana

Bullish

Shining

Savant - Epstein Island 

Mikal - re zero

On Hold:

AnonymousIcon

Wylted - Lulsec

Mag1cman

Thoth wrote:

Good idea on having Kohai test his modkillability

et wuldn't be a modkill. Eye wuld dye at E0D

Meye poe is: Wilyed (casey), Mag (me0w), Meekal, Rex and ultr@

MeowMix wrote:

Ultracrepidarian wrote:

I thought I was being funny :(

Enough of your insolence, fool. Bow down before your master, for it is I, who has been summoned to this mortal domain.

Alll hail meow mix.

For de rekord here are my reeds.

town

pie

banana

wryly

helz

whiteflame

Thoth wrote:

Who is Meowmix?

No klue