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I just thought of something. The night kill only make sense if whiteflame is scum. If he killed castin he could never fake claim that he was a doctor and healed castin. Castin was the obvoius night kill so whiteflame avoided killing him to get fake town cred.

If whiteflame is scum then I think scum really messed up the last night phase. Whiteflame should not have made any night kill, claim to be town who saved castin from being killed, and then everyone would be lynching mikal nowt hat it is confirmed he visited castin

The POE of who could be OG scum is exactly Whiteflame.

I just thought of something. The night kill only make sense if whiteflame is scum. If he killed castin he could never fake claim that he was a doctor and healed castin. Castin was the obvoius night kill so whiteflame avoided killing him to get fake town cred.

Yes, which is what the plan has been the entire time. I created that plan. We identify the OG scum cause speculating over who was converted is useless. If you’re a converted scum, then we are forced to lynch you last. Best case for us you’re scum and we win, worst case you’re town and get the hot to take out scum. It’s that simple really 

Exactly. There are only two possible teams so as long as we hit one tonight town is guarantee to win.

FYI I am informing that I intend to vote whiteflame

Another thing that sticks out to me is just how behaviorally different white flame is compared to the last two games. He’s done far less game solving like keeping track of claims.

so again it’s likely you or wf and this 2v1 has red flags going up like crazy. Because if we do assume David is recruiting the of scum wants to take the other one out as the game is done.

which is why the only town play would be to turbo lynch me tomorrow

2) I am town locking Castin. Could she have been recruited. Yes it’s unlikely. If mafia did not pick David. They would have picked blindly. It makes no sense to pick Castin over wf, pie, or myself. But if Castin is scum based on behavior and that genuine town slip she had earlier on the game. Castins role along with what I was given last night is the only real way to gather info about skeps character. If this is wrong. Then it is what it is.

This is the correct play from town POV. Pie is more likely to be a recruit than Castin or you. Lynch white flame today and lynch me tomorrow. I’ll kill pie and town wins

Please at least wait until we've had a chance to discuss it before VTLing.

Agree with this. I’m off to bed. G’night

Again, that’s not true. If Mikal was recruited, he would retain his town role. He can follow Wryly still. If Wryly was recruited, she would retain her Tracker and be able to track Mikal

Why would they waste an action on each other? In addition, it makes more sense for them to bullshit this claim then it does for them to waste an action.

A) Where’d the idea of a roleblock come from

B) Why can’t a recruited Mikal use a Follower on Castin

C) Why can’t a recruited Castin use the Tracker on Mikal

A. Process of elimination. Both got a result so neither could be role blocked. Neither were killed so it couldn’t have been a killing action.

B-C. That’s my point. Either they’re the scum team making this up or they’re both town.

I think whiteflame is objectively the best lynch today.

mikal and castin cannot be town / scum. If so this would require one of them to use a non lethal action on the other and also not role block each other. This is absurd. Either they’re the scum team making this up or they’re both town. I’m leaning towards both of them being town - esp given Castin’s derp tell.

Either Castin or Mikal can be the recruited scum

they cannot be town / scum.

The only world where I see Mikal still being scum is if he's the recruit and used his night action on me to farm town cred. I don't think that's what happened, but it is a possibility.

That would be impossible since he targeted you and you confirmed it.

Another thing pointing me in the white flame / pie direction is I don’t see Mikal as recruiting Castin

That would leave whiteflame as the fake claimer and makes me wonder if he reported the Informant dump faithfully.

Agree with this

As for them making it up, I don’t think either of them did

that’s kinda where I am at right now. That would honestly clear them as a team if wf is original scum.

plus I have a very hard time believing he would be able to obtain the power of a townie before he was even flipped let alone using it twice

Huh that is literally what a yazkua does. What do you mean

I meant on a balance level basis it is far too scum sided and town doesn’t have enough roles that could catch it.

If I was designing the game I would have made Rex an alignment cop rather than a character cop or even a cop that would say if someone is the same alignment they had at the beginning of the game.

I’m stuck on that. Part of me wonders if it just that and that is the balance of the yakuza being busted.

Honestly that is just way too scum OP’d. Town doesn’t have enough roles to counter an alignment change mid game

There are only two possibilities:

(1) The team is whiteflame / pie

(2) The team is mikal / castin and they made up this claim and cross confirmed each other.

Why do you think whiteflame is the OG and not Pie?

Flavor character - I doubt Casey would out their partner like that in their role PM.

I’m not scum dude

Who do you think it is? Do you think castin / mikal are making this up?

The game is truly easy as pie (pun intended)

If I was whiteflame then I would totally pick pie to recruit. I doubt Mikal / Castin would make that up.

The game is fairly winnable then. I was paranoid Mikal was the recruit, but that really refuted my worry.

Whiteflame is original scum who recrutied pie.

Here's what we should do:

Lynch whiteflame

If I'm still alive tomorrow you lynch me and then I venge kill pie and town wins.

I keep assuming he has to die before the end of the game

Objectively speaking I should by lynched tomorrow. I am town. If I get lynched the game is already over even if I magically kill scum.

I meant the justification of how Xenomorph connects to Vengeful Townie

I already explained in D1. It’s because we are the perfect killing machine and kill just for the fun of it. Anyone that dares mess with us is dumb af.

Justification please

Behavior wise Mikal is my strongest town read. Game analysis Castin is second.

that said I’m pretty sure white flame is conf scum.

Agreed.

Did you get any results

I wonder if the game is as simple as Pie / Whiteflame