Kohai

We need to get something going

VTL Whiteflame

Via POE

I'm going to re-read DP1 and see if I can find anything that's pairing. TBH I think it's a mistake to be playing a game of "who is scum likely to recruit?" This is a mind game that the mafia team wants us to play. Let's start finding who has been the most towny between this day phase and last day phase. Let's work on trying to clear people rather than focusing on the recruit.

If I'm ever lynched I'm going to probably kill within whiteflame, pie. Most likely will kill whiteflame.

Read list

Wryly - Strongest town read. I don't see them trying to derp clear themselves.

Rex - Extremely towny. Rex's frustration feels genuine, esp # 101

Vader - I do not see Vader as ever being a recruit and don't see him as original scum.

Mikal - Extremely towny game solving. I also think if he was scum he'd be a lot more careful on the hammer.

this leaves a POE of:

Whiteflame

Pie

Pie being Ellen makes me think he was originally town and was converted to mafia.

is this tmi to anyone else?

Grasping for straws? It's literally a hypothesis....

If REF isn’t on by 2pm, we should just go on and draw straws to full claim, or set a time for everyone else.

Agreed with this.

but I do think it’s between you pie or wf. I get stuck on you because I don’t see why else they would sacrifice that np1. Even if they wanted to recruit someone that is experienced. Doing it later in the game just to reset the game makes so much more sense.

Casey was not very active last DP. It makes sense for them to use in on NP1. Also I think this also clears a lot of the folks who were and have been rather inactive.

Pie is a far better scum player than I can ever hope to be. Skill wise Pie is the better recruit

betting man. I think the recruit was between David, Pie, or Wf

I’m leaning towards WF / Pie with pie as a recruit.

if we are going to do this we need to do it soon. Good chance I’ll be in active from tonight until tomorrow evening because I have a certification thing I am working on. We either need to commit or not

We all need to commit to a mass claim. If anyone refuses to claim then we should vote them for pressure. This is literally the only way I see us solving the game.

Just catching up. We have a little over 24 hours left. I feel like we have gotten very little accomplished.

thoughts on VTNL as an option?

My role PM does not say anything about humans.

i'm fine with all of these but this one seems chaotic

Updated. I may run it on MU

Unfortunately, yes. If you two have a time that works for you tomorrow, I will make it work for me. If not, this is going to be a lot messier of a lynch without all our claims.

Agreed. However, I did a full review and I don't think rex and vader are paired, especially if one of them was recruited.

BTW the host invited me to the game. We knew each other from years ago on Mafia Universe and recently played together there. (My home site is dead and I play mainly on MU)

Welcome! I'm so glad you decided to give us a try

Yes, it means that scum are able to chat during the day; also there might be other roles like masons or neighborhoods that would also have day chat.

I am not familiar with the term neighborhood. Do neighbors differ from masons in that the latter know they are all town?

The main difference is masons is a group where all masons know everyone in that group is town. In a neighborhood you might have different players of different alignments that share a chat group.

Does this just mean that scum can talk in scum chat during the day?

Yes, it means that scum are able to chat during the day; also there might be other roles like masons or neighborhoods that would also have day chat.

What is multiball?

It means there's more than two factions. There's town, scum, and third party. Town would need to eliminate both the scum team and any third parties to win.

What is bread-crumbing?

I have an idea of what cryptography is, but I'm not sure how I could encrypt something so that only certain people can read it unless I can communicate with them outside the game, which I presume is still banned.

Essentially it's trying to leave subtle clues as to what your role is that way when you claim you can point to it. For a good example of this see this game when I posted:

Finally, I'm not a horrific role like lost wolf or beloved princess. Winning two elections in a game of mafia sucks, but I realized it must be because I am just a very popular person on this website.

This is an example of what that is

Welcome to kohai's uPick! I have created a few setups that I think would be fun and enjoyable. I will give a brief description of each setup and will allow everyone to take their pick.

Game Information

1. The ideal start date will be 25/09, the day after Rosh Hashanah. I am starting signups early so we can have time to finish the ongoing game (please do not discuss the ongoing game in this thread), recruit new players, and give everyone a tiny bit of a mafia break before the next game starts.
2. The day phase will last for 72 hours and the night phase will last for 48 hours.
3. There are no alignment changing roles in any of these setups; however please note that there are some extremely nasty anti-claim mechanics! Please claim at your own risk!
4. Mod note: Originally I stated I would use "eliminate" over "lynch." However this got too much push back so I will go with lynch.

Game Mechanics

1. Use VTL (Playername) or Vote: (Playername) to eliminate a player.
2. Unovting is appreciated but is not required.
3. Eliminations and factional kills are mandatory. If there is a tie for eliminations this will be resolved through randomization.
4. All factions have day chat.
5. Twilight begins when a majority is reached. It lasts until the thread is locked. Until this point, players may freely post in this game thread until I arrive to flip them. Votes and unvotes in this phase do not count.

Rules:

1. Follow all site-rules and use common sense.
2. I will not tolerate toxicity. I expect all players to treat each other with respect. If I feel a discussion is getting too heated I will intervene and possibly lock the thread for there to be a cool down period. If the discussion gets too toxic even after a cool down period then I reserve the right to mod kill you without compensation to your team.
3. I will expect a minimum of 5 game-advancing posts per day.
4. Do not quote your PM in full.
5. Do not edit or delete your posts.
6. Cryptography and bread crumbing are allowed; however do so at your own risk as there are very nasty anti-claim mechanics. I cannot stress this enough. You are free to claim, but it may be extremely detrimental.

Option 1: 90s/Early 2000 Nostalgia

The flavor is based on movie, video game, and TV characters from the 90's to early 2000s. This is a closed setup. This game will not be multiball and there will be no alignment changing roles.

Option 2: Medical Mayhem

This is an open setup with some fun bastard mechanics. Ideally we will have 13 players, 11 town and 2 scum. Everyone is a doctor; however, there's a catch: Every night it will be randomized what type of doctor you are. The type of doctors:

1. Sane doctor - A sane doctor protects their patient from all night kills. This is guaranteed to be successful.
2. Inverse doctor - An inverse doctor kills their patients instead of healing them, essentially this is a vigilante.
3. A quack - Their action does nothing
4. Cynical - Protects their patient, but also roleblocks them
5. CPR - A CPR doctor will protect their patient; however, they will kill their patient if protection is not needed (i.e. from scum or from another doctor).

It is guaranteed that there will be at least two sane doctors at all times. Mafia can target each other; however they should do this with extreme caution as it could end up killing their partner.

Flavor will be based on real doctors and medical history. If this gets enough interest and we get enough players I may add a third party to the game (however, I will inform the players before hand).

Option 3: The Donner Party

This is a really fun setup that I have done before. The flavor will be based on the old west pioneers. The setup is open and has a few fun mechanics:

1. 2 Cannibal Mafia Goons
2. 1 Cannibal Serial Killer
3. 1 Cannibal Vigilante
4. 1 Gunsmith (Dietician)
5. 1 Roleblocker
6. 6 Vanilla Townies

This game is multiball and partially flipless. Please see this post for a full mechanics

Let's try and recruit new members to our mafia site!

Player lists:

1. iLikePie - Nostaliga

2. Thoth - Nostalgia

3. Lunatic - Nostalgia

4. awesome5000 - Medical mayhem

5. Airmax1227 - Nostalgia

6. Rex - Nostalgia

7. Vader - Nostalgia

8. Mikal - nostalgia

9. Whiteflame- Nostalgia

10. unsaid

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Please share this with others! I want to challenge everyone to try and recruit at least one new player to the site.

Does anyone here really hate Supa? Cause an incredible amount of spite would be the only thing motivating a competent scum team to use a Yakuza on him. He hates playing as scum. If he is scum in this game he rolled it from the getgo.

NGL this feels extremely TMI

Kohai ban him for spoilers, smite him smite

*swings ban hammer*

I take it you mean MafiaScum and MafiaUniverse?

Yes

Gut feel right now is that Mikal and Kohai are town, which leaves Vader, REF, WF, Wryly

I agree that Mikal is probably town. Out of those Castin is my strongest TR. Could the game be as easy as ref /wf?

iLikePie5 - Ellen Ripley

Whiteflame - David 8

Mikal - The engineers 

RexFavilla - MU/TH/UR 6000 - no night action  

Vader - no claim 

David (Kohai) - The xenomorph, vengeful 

Wryly (Castin) - Not Xenomorph

iLikePie5 - Ellen Ripley

Whiteflame - David 8

Mikal - The engineers  

RexFavilla - no claim 

Vader - no claim 

David (Kohai) - The xenomorph, vengeful 

Wryly (Castin) - Not Xenomorph

Lol yep. Dislyxia slip

I almost want to TR Mikal for being Ellen Ripley given Casey's flip.

Claim tracker

iLikePie5 - Ellen Ripley

Whiteflame - David 8

Mikal - Not human, a full species 

RexFavilla - no claim 

Vader - no claim 

David (Kohai) - The xenomorph, vengeful 

Wryly (Castin) - Not Xenomorph

It would be nice to at least be able to figure out the theme split

Vader hasn’t agreed anyway, so I think we should just abort until he gets on

In agreement

If we could at least get the remaining softclaim from Vader, it might help. It would do more with character claims

Ok. I’ll sit on this for now.